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Wait, are you guys ganging up on a 16yr old school girl for practising her 1st amendment??? Pretty gross of you all I tell ya  Here's a lil gift so you'll feel special... 
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Wait, are you guys ganging up on a 16yr old school girl for practising her 1st amendment??? Pretty gross of you all I tell ya You can count on me to let you know when you're being offensive and rude It's Pretty much all the time these days eh? 
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Wait, are you guys ganging up on a 16yr old school girl for practising her 1st amendment??? Pretty gross of you all I tell ya Canadians...
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Wait, are you guys ganging up on a 16yr old school girl for practising her 1st amendment??? Pretty gross of you all I tell ya Canadians... Idiots...
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Wait, are you guys ganging up on a 16yr old school girl for practising her 1st amendment??? Pretty gross of you all I tell ya Canadians... Idiots... to thine own Self be true! The Bard! 
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Wait, are you guys ganging up on a 16yr old school girl for practising her 1st amendment??? Pretty gross of you all I tell ya Canadians... Idiots... to thine own Self be true! The Bard! I have a bit more class than to lump all Americans together This thread and many others here have a unusually high percentage of morons If the shoe fits, and it does fit... 
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This thread and many others here have a We know....youve been in several lately....
unusually high percentage of morons |
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This thread and many others here have a We know....youve been in several lately.... unusually high percentage of morons Are you some kind of mental and social retard? Seriously, I'm not joking, Go get help, and stay away from me. |
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RebelArcher
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This thread and many others here have a We know....youve been in several lately.... unusually high percentage of morons Are you some kind of mental and social retard? Seriously, I'm not joking, Go get help, and stay away from me. Here ya go.... Go show your mommy what ya got 
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ACLU: School's Bullying Case Against "F--- ISRAEL" Teen Is "Egregious":
Gothamist http://gothamist.com/2016/01/07/nj_school_bullying_teen_israel.php/ * ACLU is listed as a hate group anyway * |
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Overall I have to agree with you. In regards to ANYTHING she posted on twitter, so long as she did not use school property to do so, she can not be touched (and that has been proven in court numerous times the last several years. As far as the first amendment goes however, what a lot of people fail to remember or realize (mainly due to poor educational standards across the nation) is that until you are an adult (or emancipated by a court of law) you do not have the same rights as an adult citizen. You do NOT have the right to free speech for example. You DO have the legal right to be heard which means if you have a problem or if you need to address something you have to be listened to and considered. You do not however, have the full freedom to say what you want when you want however you want. Now, with that said, it doesn't really mean much at this point anyway because nobody is going to refuse to listen to a teenager or a child just because they are not an adult as well all know. BUT it does cover the fact that she does NOT have the right, and more and more schools are enforcing this, to say what she wants in school without fear of reprimand. In regards to the school taking her phone and searching it? That is a direct violation of the fourth amendment (which minors DO HAVE FULL RIGHTS TO); and again this has been upheld in court numerous times over the past several years. This does not mean the student was right in recording the conversation without stating she was going to first (she does not need permission to do so, she just needs to state she will be recording so the other person(s) can refuse to talk while on tape). The proper and legal path has to be followed in order to obtain it, and under most circumstances it will be disregarded unless the recording was used to bring harm to the other person or is used as evidence and it will then be tossed out. What it boils down to is if it did not happen on school property or at a school function, and it did not involve school equipment, the school pretty much has no authority. IF she is bullying someone via the internet and not from a school resource, then the only thing that can be done is to involve the police and have the police investigate the matter. No Conrad I will not. If you are interested in following up on it you are more than welcome to read the constitution yourself, and the many, many judicial rulings in place regarding what is meant by the constitution. |
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(twatter?) Thats a female tweeter.... close relation to Miley Cyrus the twirker? |
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Hhaa..
 There are some distinction. Miley Cyrus is a whore of Babylon @bendykoval is a propoganda whore of Palestine Cyrus is an adult who gets paid to be one. Koval is a child who is being used as a political pawn. * And should have all her electronic toys taken away & be suspended or expelled * |
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Hhaa.. There are some distinction. Miley Cyrus is a whore of Babylon @bendykoval is a propoganda whore of Palestine Cyrus is an adult who gets paid to be one. Koval is a child who is being used as a political pawn. * And should have all her electronic toys taken away & be suspended or expelled * lmao I agree she should have all her electronic toys taken away, but her posting on twitter has nothing to do with the school, since it did not happen from a school computer or something similar. her recording the conversation with her principle can not be legally proven since it was found through the principle violating her fourth amendment rights so no school suspension, etc. However, as I said, I completely agree her parents need to step up, remove all electronics and GROUND HER SORRY BEHIND, basically putting her under house arrest for however long is needed lol |
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Overall I have to agree with you. In regards to ANYTHING she posted on twitter, so long as she did not use school property to do so, she can not be touched (and that has been proven in court numerous times the last several years. As far as the first amendment goes however, what a lot of people fail to remember or realize (mainly due to poor educational standards across the nation) is that until you are an adult (or emancipated by a court of law) you do not have the same rights as an adult citizen. You do NOT have the right to free speech for example. You DO have the legal right to be heard which means if you have a problem or if you need to address something you have to be listened to and considered. You do not however, have the full freedom to say what you want when you want however you want. Now, with that said, it doesn't really mean much at this point anyway because nobody is going to refuse to listen to a teenager or a child just because they are not an adult as well all know. BUT it does cover the fact that she does NOT have the right, and more and more schools are enforcing this, to say what she wants in school without fear of reprimand. In regards to the school taking her phone and searching it? That is a direct violation of the fourth amendment (which minors DO HAVE FULL RIGHTS TO); and again this has been upheld in court numerous times over the past several years. This does not mean the student was right in recording the conversation without stating she was going to first (she does not need permission to do so, she just needs to state she will be recording so the other person(s) can refuse to talk while on tape). The proper and legal path has to be followed in order to obtain it, and under most circumstances it will be disregarded unless the recording was used to bring harm to the other person or is used as evidence and it will then be tossed out. What it boils down to is if it did not happen on school property or at a school function, and it did not involve school equipment, the school pretty much has no authority. IF she is bullying someone via the internet and not from a school resource, then the only thing that can be done is to involve the police and have the police investigate the matter. No Conrad I will not. If you are interested in following up on it you are more than welcome to read the constitution yourself, and the many, many judicial rulings in place regarding what is meant by the constitution. |
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Overall I have to agree with you. In regards to ANYTHING she posted on twitter, so long as she did not use school property to do so, she can not be touched (and that has been proven in court numerous times the last several years. As far as the first amendment goes however, what a lot of people fail to remember or realize (mainly due to poor educational standards across the nation) is that until you are an adult (or emancipated by a court of law) you do not have the same rights as an adult citizen. You do NOT have the right to free speech for example. You DO have the legal right to be heard which means if you have a problem or if you need to address something you have to be listened to and considered. You do not however, have the full freedom to say what you want when you want however you want. Now, with that said, it doesn't really mean much at this point anyway because nobody is going to refuse to listen to a teenager or a child just because they are not an adult as well all know. BUT it does cover the fact that she does NOT have the right, and more and more schools are enforcing this, to say what she wants in school without fear of reprimand. In regards to the school taking her phone and searching it? That is a direct violation of the fourth amendment (which minors DO HAVE FULL RIGHTS TO); and again this has been upheld in court numerous times over the past several years. This does not mean the student was right in recording the conversation without stating she was going to first (she does not need permission to do so, she just needs to state she will be recording so the other person(s) can refuse to talk while on tape). The proper and legal path has to be followed in order to obtain it, and under most circumstances it will be disregarded unless the recording was used to bring harm to the other person or is used as evidence and it will then be tossed out. What it boils down to is if it did not happen on school property or at a school function, and it did not involve school equipment, the school pretty much has no authority. IF she is bullying someone via the internet and not from a school resource, then the only thing that can be done is to involve the police and have the police investigate the matter. No Conrad I will not. If you are interested in following up on it you are more than welcome to read the constitution yourself, and the many, many judicial rulings in place regarding what is meant by the constitution. Actually Conrad you have done no such thing, or you are intentionally ignoring facts and court rulings (as usual). I highly reccomend you stop replying with (you're wrong) every time someone says something you do not agree with because eventually you are going to get enough egg on your face to smother yourself ;-) |
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Overall I have to agree with you. In regards to ANYTHING she posted on twitter, so long as she did not use school property to do so, she can not be touched (and that has been proven in court numerous times the last several years. As far as the first amendment goes however, what a lot of people fail to remember or realize (mainly due to poor educational standards across the nation) is that until you are an adult (or emancipated by a court of law) you do not have the same rights as an adult citizen. You do NOT have the right to free speech for example. You DO have the legal right to be heard which means if you have a problem or if you need to address something you have to be listened to and considered. You do not however, have the full freedom to say what you want when you want however you want. Now, with that said, it doesn't really mean much at this point anyway because nobody is going to refuse to listen to a teenager or a child just because they are not an adult as well all know. BUT it does cover the fact that she does NOT have the right, and more and more schools are enforcing this, to say what she wants in school without fear of reprimand. In regards to the school taking her phone and searching it? That is a direct violation of the fourth amendment (which minors DO HAVE FULL RIGHTS TO); and again this has been upheld in court numerous times over the past several years. This does not mean the student was right in recording the conversation without stating she was going to first (she does not need permission to do so, she just needs to state she will be recording so the other person(s) can refuse to talk while on tape). The proper and legal path has to be followed in order to obtain it, and under most circumstances it will be disregarded unless the recording was used to bring harm to the other person or is used as evidence and it will then be tossed out. What it boils down to is if it did not happen on school property or at a school function, and it did not involve school equipment, the school pretty much has no authority. IF she is bullying someone via the internet and not from a school resource, then the only thing that can be done is to involve the police and have the police investigate the matter. No Conrad I will not. If you are interested in following up on it you are more than welcome to read the constitution yourself, and the many, many judicial rulings in place regarding what is meant by the constitution. Actually Conrad you have done no such thing, or you are intentionally ignoring facts and court rulings (as usual). I highly reccomend you stop replying with (you're wrong) every time someone says something you do not agree with because eventually you are going to get enough egg on your face to smother yourself ;-) OMG,not another "EXPERT" of the Constitution! 
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Overall I have to agree with you. In regards to ANYTHING she posted on twitter, so long as she did not use school property to do so, she can not be touched (and that has been proven in court numerous times the last several years. As far as the first amendment goes however, what a lot of people fail to remember or realize (mainly due to poor educational standards across the nation) is that until you are an adult (or emancipated by a court of law) you do not have the same rights as an adult citizen. You do NOT have the right to free speech for example. You DO have the legal right to be heard which means if you have a problem or if you need to address something you have to be listened to and considered. You do not however, have the full freedom to say what you want when you want however you want. Now, with that said, it doesn't really mean much at this point anyway because nobody is going to refuse to listen to a teenager or a child just because they are not an adult as well all know. BUT it does cover the fact that she does NOT have the right, and more and more schools are enforcing this, to say what she wants in school without fear of reprimand. In regards to the school taking her phone and searching it? That is a direct violation of the fourth amendment (which minors DO HAVE FULL RIGHTS TO); and again this has been upheld in court numerous times over the past several years. This does not mean the student was right in recording the conversation without stating she was going to first (she does not need permission to do so, she just needs to state she will be recording so the other person(s) can refuse to talk while on tape). The proper and legal path has to be followed in order to obtain it, and under most circumstances it will be disregarded unless the recording was used to bring harm to the other person or is used as evidence and it will then be tossed out. What it boils down to is if it did not happen on school property or at a school function, and it did not involve school equipment, the school pretty much has no authority. IF she is bullying someone via the internet and not from a school resource, then the only thing that can be done is to involve the police and have the police investigate the matter. No Conrad I will not. If you are interested in following up on it you are more than welcome to read the constitution yourself, and the many, many judicial rulings in place regarding what is meant by the constitution. Actually Conrad you have done no such thing, or you are intentionally ignoring facts and court rulings (as usual). I highly reccomend you stop replying with (you're wrong) every time someone says something you do not agree with because eventually you are going to get enough egg on your face to smother yourself ;-) OMG,not another "EXPERT" of the Constitution! never claimed (and never will claim) to be an expert on anything (or a scholar). However, you do not have to be either to have looked something up and followed anything that is related to it in order to know what you are talking a bout ;-) |
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A social media storm erupted after administrators at a New Jersey high school accused a student of bullying because of anti-Israel comments that she posted on Twitter. They say that the tweets may have violated the state's broad anti-bullying laws. Bethany Koval, a 16-year-old Israeli Jew, said on Wednesday that she was called to the principal's office at Fair Lawn High School and reprimanded for making tweets criticizing Israel and mentioning that a pro-Israel classmate had unfollowed her on Twitter. Comment: So where's the real problem? It doesn't seem to exist. Maybe the school administrators need a refresher course in the 1st Amendment. Administrators warned her that she could face legal consequences for her actions, since New Jersey has some of the strictest anti-bullying legislation in the country. Under the New Jersey Anti-Bullying Bill of Rights Act, which only came into force in 2011, she could be suspended or expelled. Koval is a prolific Twitter user. She had made over 21,000 tweets and has almost 7,000 followers, many of whom she gained in the last few days. The fiasco that she is the center of has since become a social media sensation. The outspoken high schooler has been met with both support and opposition online. When Koval was called down to the principal's office, she began documenting the situation on Twitter. "I'm about to be exposed for being anti-Israel. Pray for me," she tweeted. A few minutes later, she tweeted that the administrator threatened to "file a bullying case" against her. "It's against state law to express unpopular political views on the Internet, now," she tweeted again. In addition to rebuking her and warning her about legal consequences, the administator searched Koval's phone to make sure that he had not recorded their conversation. The student could be sued if she had, he told her. The administrator was correct in their assumption; Koval posted videos of the meeting on Twitter. In one recording, Koval can heard telling the administrator that her tweets may have been controversial, but she didn't think they were "problematic." "Well that's your interpretation," the administrator said. "There's a state law that might interpret it differently." Comment: Ya maybe, except for that little nuisance known as the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution that guarantees the right of free speech for everyone in the USA. In a second clip, the administrator can be heard warning her about legal consequences again. "You can sit there with your smug attitude right now, but if it's got to go into a bullying case because you think it shouldn't be and the state says it is, you're going to lose," he said. Fair Lawn High School Principal James Marcella told the New York Times that the issue has been referred to the school district's superintendent, Bruce Watson, and that a statement would be released on Thursday afternoon. Stanley Cohen, a lawyer consulted by Koval's family, said he that doubted that the complaints over her tweets would end up being a legal matter. He said he hoped school officials would looking beyond "the emotion of the moment and say 'Move on, this is no big deal,'" adding that he believes that young people should be encouraged to express their opinions in an academic environment. http://www.rt.com/usa/328218-new-jersey-bullying-tweets/ SCOTUS made that so,when they decided that Christian Bakeries are "Public" and have to bake Cakes whether they are so inclined or not! Chicken are coming home to bite Ar$es! 
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