have you tried the Ashley Madison site yet ?

i hear there's lot of monkeying around happening over there...
it's all...hear no evil, see no evil, and none of them talk about it either...lol/jk...

I am not picking on you baby
you will decide what is right for you and when it is
or you may decide it never is again



but these women that you continue to do this to may not be happy

No T.. not center stage.. I don't mind if they have children but I would prefer if they didn't...hmm.. just received your next post....hmm.. very insightful.... so what does that make me?.. if what you just said we're to be true.. not saying that it is.. ..
. I can almost feel you running around in my brain... almost

I know what I'm about to lay down here may seem weird..lol..
Especially when most people are trying to find someone.. either to get remarried to or settle down with.. or have them in their life full time..... but for myself..
I don't want any of the above... what I would like is someone to go for dinner with from time to time.. catch a movie... enjoy a nice stroll in the park..
And of course have crazy monkey sex with.... what I don't want is clingy needy.. have to text you every morning afternoon and evening..
Spend the whole weekend with you including the evenings....((no)).lol..
But I find most women want..
Someone full time.. sure some of them say I want what you want.. I say okay but I warn you do not fall in love with me..no! no!... they say no problem..lol.. but sure enough a month later they start demanding to spend more time together... thay even try to clear out a drawer in the dresser drawer just for me...awww.. ... which I have to then say.. but but baby.. I thought we are just going to keep things casual..?. And they say yes but I just want more of you full time... so I'm just wondering... why is it so hard to keep things casual. .. for any length of time.. longer than let's say!! two weeks..lol.. ...

Here is your simple answer. You are trying to get someone to do something that most people are not wired to do. It doesn't matter which way the relationship starts. The great majority of women cannot keep their heart out of it. You may even be perceived as cold-hearted because you can. I'm speaking from, been there and done that.

When you get right down to it, you're hurting people. The great majority of women want a man that they feel close to. Connected. What it is, they start feeling connected to you. When that feeling starts, they find themselves wanting more. And you not willing, or can't give it, They start feeling used, abused and heartbroken. You wind up hurting them.

If this is the way you wish to live your life, you should find a cold hearted woman that doesn't give a d.a.m.n whether you come or go. That way you will not have to worry about hurting a woman that doesn't deserve it.

I'm not trying to be an a-hole here. I'm just laying it out there the way I know it is. From experience. When you get right down to it, you just want a warm body that will give up the booty for you. It's out there. I found it once several years ago after my divorce. In the end, you will wind up feeling empty.

Ok.1 st.. I take umbrage to you saying most men are like me.. .
LAT..?

I know what I'm about to lay down here may seem weird..lol..
Especially when most people are trying to find someone.. either to get remarried to or settle down with.. or have them in their life full time..... but for myself..
I don't want any of the above... what I would like is someone to go for dinner with from time to time.. catch a movie... enjoy a nice stroll in the park..

Ditto
I have no time either to bother with clingy;..now, the monkey sex thing ??
sometime I gotta start..

Yeah .. but using "Clingy" in reference to a normal healthy relationship says something about the one using it ...
Not having a go at you, Rusty, just an observation. A normal healthy relationship isn't clingy, no one wants clingy. So if someone perceives it as clingy ... what does that tell you about that person? Usually such people fear commitment for whatever reason. Some fear abandonment, some fear commitment.

This is so like a religious debate,I believe in God,there is no God,my God is better than yours.So many sincere people talking at cross purposes.The only thing missing is the hate,kudos to all participants for a respectful,open honest and entertaining discussion.
My position,when dealing with people,how many of us really know who we are ?,we think we know who we are in our own little world and we may even be be realistic in our self assessment.The problem is when we meet someone else in the words of the song "That's what happens when two worlds collide" we never know where the pieces are going to fall and unfortunately someone has to pick up the pieces on many occasions.