FIRST Article:

Obama Speaks on Umpqua Oregon Shooting FULL VIDEO | Mediaite http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-live-president-obama-speaks-on-umpqua-shooting/

Umpqua Shooting: ‘This Is Something We Should Politicize’
by Matt Wilstein | 6:21 pm, October 1st, 2015

President Obama is expected to make a statement soon on the tragic shooting at Umpqua Community College that left 13 people dead and more injured.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest spoke earlier in reaction to a question about the shooting, reaffirming Obama’s commitment to getting gun control reform done.

UPDATE — 6:45 p.m. ET: An incredibly frustrated and fed up Obama spoke for several minutes from the White House Thursday afternoon.

“Anybody who does this has a sickness in their minds regardless of what they think their motivations may be. But we are not the only country on Earth that has people with mental illnesses or want to do harm to other people,” the president said. “We are the only advanced country on Earth that sees these kinds of mass shootings every few months.”

To those who would accuse him of “politicizing” the tragedy, Obama said, “This is something we should politicize, it is relevant to our common life together, to the body politic.”
* Obama statement on link*
------------------------------------------------SECOND Article:

Obama Not Welcome Here to ‘Stand on the Corpses of Our Loved Ones’
by Josh Feldman |
October 5th, 2015

David Jaques, publisher of the Roseburg Beacon, told Bill O’Reilly tonight President Obama should not come to the Oregon town after he politicized the tragic shooting last week.

When President Obama spoke about the shooting, he bemoaned the frequency of shootings and made the case that because allowing this to continue is a “political choice,” the issue should be politicized. Well, the president is reportedly traveling to Roseburg, but Jaques made it clear to O’Reilly plenty of residents would not be on board with that.

He said Obama’s “not welcome” in Roseburg because people think he will “grandstand for political purposes.”

“He wants to come to our community,” Jaques said, “and stand on the corpses of our loved ones and make some kind of political point.”

Roseburg Resident: Obama Not Welcome Here to ‘Stand on the Corpses of Our Loved Ones’ | Mediaite http://www.mediaite.com/tv/roseburg-resident-obama-not-welcome-here-to-stand-on-the-corpses-of-our-loved-ones/
* Short video on link*

FUBO!

He certainly is NOT the first President to be rejected by residents or any entire town.
There have even been small business that have refused their shops especially when he was running for re-election.

Anyone remember the President's name, who couldn't get off the train because the mayor said 'no'.? And when he tried chaos broke out.

Geez.. in the past, Presidents would get food thrown at them.

This is nothing.

Well you know, if he's going to preach and sing Amazing Grace at the funerals.....

Imagine if he admitted the gun control problem was the "fish in a barrel" that gun free zones create.....

But then we're talking liberal logic.... in other words no logic

Make it even harder for people to defend themselves and their rights by abusing them with unconstitutional idiot laws.

LOCAL NEWS/ Commentary
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http://m.thewesternnews.com/members/disarming-america-is-never-going-to-happen-like-it-or/article_c9b36464-6c5c-11e5-a2a6-e3df9ac912ea.html?mode=jqm http://m.thewesternnews.com/members/disarming-america-is-never-going-to-happen-like-it-or/article_c9b36464-6c5c-11e5-a2a6-e3df9ac912ea.html?mode=jqm/

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I wonder what they'll say about Carson basically calling the victims pusses.

"I wouldn't just stand there and let him shoot me. I'd say 'come on guys, attack him'. He might shoot me but he wouldn't get all of you." (pusses)

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else."

Theodore Roosevelt

Obama visit to Roseburg stirs local anger about his support for gun control after shooting | OregonLive.com http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2015/10/obama_visit_to_roseburg_stir_l.html/

OregonLive.com

Obama visit to Roseburg stirs local anger about his support for gun control after shooting

By Jeff Mapes | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 06, 2015 at 6:34 PM, updated October 06, 2015 at 6:47 PM

President Barack Obama's remarks in favor of gun control a few hours after the mass shooting at Umpqua Community College is sparking anger in Roseburg about his upcoming visit to the city.

David Jacques, a Republican activist who publishes a weekly newspaper in Roseburg, warned on national TV on Monday night that the president "is not welcome in the community."

Local social media sites in the conservative community are replete with criticism of the president, and several local officials said Obama should stay away from the subject of gun laws during his Friday visit.

"I was not pleased with the direction the commander-in-chief took" after the shootings, state Rep. Dallas Heard, R-Roseburg, said Tuesday. "Let's hope he can think to do better when he comes here. We can only hope."

The White House said Obama is traveling to Roseburg to "visit privately with families of victims of the shooting," leaving the impression he would not have any public events for what is expected to be a short visit.

The furor over the president's visit led the Roseburg City Council to issue a statement saying city officials will welcome Obama and "extend him every courtesy."

Council President Tom Ryan said in an interview Tuesday that the statement – which referred to "misrepresentations" made by some people – was aimed at Jacques, who claimed to have the support of community leaders.

If Obama "can help heal some families, more power to him," said Ryan, who also expressed concerns about what the president might say during his visit.

"We don't need to be in the middle of a national gun rights debate," Ryan said. "We have people who are healing. That is our main concern."

Jacques, who was a delegate to the 2012 Republican national convention, has been interviewed by Bill O'Reilly on Fox News and featured on several conservative websites.

He said in an interview with The Oregonian/OregonLive that Obama showed "blatant disregard for the mourning process," and he charged that the president is coming to Roseburg to recruit family members to speak out in favor of tougher gun laws.

A few hours after the Thursday shooting, Obama spoke at length in the White House press room about how expanded background checks and other laws would help reduce gun violence.

The president added: "And of course what's also routine is that somebody somewhere will comment and say, 'Obama politicized this issue.' Well, this is something we should politicize."

Jacques said two Douglas County commissioners – Tim Freeman and Chris Boice – as well as Sheriff John Hanlin on Saturday expressed support for a statement saying they were not interested in having the president visit if he is "coming here to take advantage of our crisis to promote his political agenda."

The sheriff and two commissioners could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Jeff Ackerman, editor and publisher of the Roseburg News-Review, the local daily newspaper, said it is one thing for the president to meet privately with the families of the victims.

"If he's going to stand on Main Street and talk about gun control," Ackerman said, "that's not going to go too well in Roseburg or Douglas County."

-- Jeff Mapes

Roseburg newspaper's pro-gun coverage http://www.businessinsider.com/roseburg-newspapers-pro-gun-coverage-2015-10/

 Roseburg resident Thomas Bonn wrote in an op-ed in the paper in 2013. "Places like Communist China, the Soviet Russia, and Nazi Germany have demonstrated how tyrants clinch total control over multitudes by disarming them, and how easily they can then liquidate their opponents by the tens of millions ... Those are the types of mass murders that we must forever prevent here."

Another resident, Robert Hilliard, decried the 2013 UN gun-ban treaty in the local paper.

"Obama and Hillary Clinton both support this travesty on American's [sic] rights under the constitution," wrote Hilliard. "Obama and Clinton must be taking their cues from the Communist Manifesto, which teaches citizens to give up their rights for the sake of the 'common good,' but that always ends in a police state."

A resident of nearby Yoncalla, Oregon, Patrick Conley took it a step further, claiming that some of Obama's policies are part of his plan to "take revenge on" Americans.

"When the dust from the mid-term elections has settled, our young, ego-maniacal, ideologue of a President, Barack Hussein Obama, will, with great personal disregard to Congress and the majority of Americans, grant some form of amnesty to millions of culturally different, prolific, criminal invaders who are illegally in our country," Conley wrote. "What better way to dilute, punish, take revenge on, and begin remaking America?"

The Trace notes that these attitudes should not come as a surprise, considering that Roseburg has a 90% white population and a strong Tea Party chapter, adding that it would also be wrong to blame the shooting on the town's pro-gun stance.

But in a News-Review article immediately following the shooting, "Right now, it's time to heal," the paper's editor and publisher, Jeff Ackerman, took an opposing stance to Obama on how to move forward from the shooting.

"This isn’t going to be about the killer, nor is this the time to talk about guns, or whether or not new gun laws would have kept the horrific event at Umpqua Community College from happening Thursday morning," Ackerman wrote. "Nobody really knows that yet and ... besides ... this is also not the time for political rhetoric."

*video on link*

"The O'Reilly Factor" did a follow-up to Roseburg residents and officials upset with President Obama immediately politicizing the tragic�Umpqua Community College shooting.

Many are concerned Obama will further politicize with his visit.

'President Not Welcome Here': Roseburg Residents React to Obama's Planned Visit - Fox Nation

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/10/06/president-not-welcome-here-roseburg-residents-react-obamas-planned-visit?cmpid=NL_foxnation/

Too bad the thread isnt about Ben Carson and is about the politicalization of a tragedy before the bodies even got cold....something the current president has done before.
Most of us know that his mantra is "Never let a tragedy go to waste". Your attempt at deflection failed.

I was hoping to see if anyone else has picked up on the hot political topics/ hot media topics/ events * cough* & the correlation between the STATES, that are NOT going along with the *cough* program.

Nets Hype Muslims Targeted in Chapel Hill Shootings 12 Times More Than Christians in Oregon
By Kristine Marsh | October 7, 2015 | 1:02 PM EDT

"If African Americans or Muslims had been singled out, President Obama would have gone ballistic, Al Sharpton would be calling for street rallies, and CAIR would be asking for congressional investigations.

But because Christians are being cherry picked for murder, there is no call to arms. Indeed, many major media outlets aren't even telling the truth. It's obvious — 'Christian Lives Don't Matter' — either here or abroad.”
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Nets Hype Muslims Targeted in Chapel Hill Shootings 12 Times More Than Christians in Oregon http://newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/kristine-marsh/2015/10/07/nets-hype-muslims-targeted-chapel-hill-shootings-12-times/

Analysis Breakdown:

MRC Culture watched the evening news broadcasts from ABC, NBC, and CBS the three days following each shooting, Feb. 11, 12, 13 and October 2, 3, and 4 respectively, noting each time “Christian,” “Muslim" or "Islam,” and “religion" or "faith” was used.

Total time spent by the networks evening news broadcasts covering the Oregon shooting, 38 minutes, 57 seconds : 3 mentions of “Christian;” 11 mentions of “religion” or “faith.”

Total time spent by the networks evening news broadcasts covering the Chapel Hill shooting, 15 minutes, 9 seconds: 36 mentions of “Muslim” or “Islam;" 48 mentions of  “religion” or “faith.”




* I guess we better take those guns off all the white Christians so they don't defend themselves. Humm.. a mass shooting you say .. this might work. OREGONIANS don't want to issue gay marriage licenses or bake gay wedding cakes or vote Democrat anyway' *

I would suggest if these people REALLY want to send a message to Obama and the Democrats that they stand up and turn their backs to the president when he gives his speech.

While many will call such a move disrespectful, I think it could be the 'ah-ha' moment politicians might need to get the point America is unhappy with them.

Would make for awesome video which no network would show except for FOX.

Newsflash-- Obama isn't running for President. He's in his second term, which means that logically and technically he's NOT politicizing it. He stands to gain nothing if Americans are touched by his response to a tragedy. Especially when that shooter was ex military. The shooter was discharged from the Army for a suicide attempt btw. This may not have occured to you but the people who ARE 'cashing in' are the ones who are misidentifying this as a RELIGIOUS 'problem' with an NRA SOLUTION.
I don't care if you don't like the President or Hillary or Biden. That's not the point here. The problem is the Army the VA, the shooters friends and family didn't get this Vet the help they knew he needed and he went off the deep end. You can't challenge the fact that the the shooters mental state and the mistreatment and or neglect is what caused this. If this guy hadn't snapped there wouldn't be a body count.
You or any other anti gun control person having 5 more guns than you have now wouldn't stop what happened. Unless you can run really fast. I don't think this was a gun control problem. I don't know particulars about how he got the gun but I know that more guns wouldn't do a damn bit of good in stopping this kind of premeditated punk *** stupidity.
I think Carson is ok, he's not the worst person in the world but what he said was dumb as hell. The biggest problem I have with what he said is that he actually took the time to think about it before he said it. To make it worse, someone DID charge this a hole and got shot 7 times in the process on his daughter's bday no less. Thanks to him more people DIDN'T die that day. It was only plastered on EVERY media outlet pictures of the guy on the stretcher, in his hospital bed, even video from the hospital thanking everyone for their well wishes and support, there's even a gofundme page for him. Ben should have known that, and the reporter should have challenged him on the spot for missing that VITAL piece of information. Carson
DOES stand to gain from this since he IS running for President. It's not the cornerstone of his campaign but he can't distinguish the taste of his foot because he made a point of saying no gsw is worse than someone taking away our second amendment rights. Operating on people's brains had to require a degree of detachment, I've picked up pieces of people so I know first-hand. But maintaining that level of detachment and missing MAJOR DETAILS of a mass shooting of innocent college students trying to make something out of their lives is grossly negligent.
Sending a message to the nation, the friends and families of the victims of condolence and recognition that these people their community matter to the President is the right thing to do.
Telling survivors that they should have done more to save their classmates from a threat they never saw coming when someone who WAS there actually DID JUST THAT is stupid.

Obama's performance until Nov '16 has a direct Bearing how the Dems will perform in the Elections!
Regardless of what you think!
Too many African Americans on the Left can't stand a successful Member of their own Race!
Call them all sorts of Invectives!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/06/university-of-pennsylvania-prof-anthea-butler-called-dr-ben-carson-a-coon/


They rather gravitate toward Frauds like Obama!

You know Conrad, that's what they said about the last election and judging by the majority in the house and Senate we see these predictions don't always play out in reality. People were slamming Obama before he was inaugurated and not wanting to go down with the favorability polls the democrats broke camp and look where they are. At home watching cspan. They left him high and dry because people didn't like him for a week or two. Divide and conquer. Unfortunately for republicans the tea party was simultaneously breaking the GOP cohesion and now we're polling non republican non politicians against incumbents and former office republicans in the politicians own States AND across the board.

Reb, tell us, inform us, or at least those who don't know, how long does it take for a body with no vitals to 'go cold'? There were undoubtedly many other criminal cases that took place orwere tried in the times between the shooting and the press release and statements made about Oregon. How 'enthusiastic' did Obama come across in response to MEDIA questions on THAT event. There is a distinct difference between answering questions AT A NEWS CONFERENCE, and an appearance someone plans (not too well because apparently Carson missed some of the MAJOR DETAILS of the incident). He spokeabout Ft Hood, he spoke about Ft Meade, he spoke about Chattanooga, all military targets. Being the COMMANDER IN CHEIF, that's kinda part of the job description. He also spoke about Gaby Giffords, Sandyhook, the El faro sinking because he cares about more than just our military. Not all Presidents do this, but one who doesn't explore combating the ills of our society BEFORE and after they are evident is negligent. He could have said 'oh well....' and not mentioned the incidents or he could do what the people (who weren't turned away at the poles illegaly)or he could use the power that the constitution and the people gave him to take on difficult problems like he did with the Bush created bailouts, soaring gas prices, unemployment, gun crimes, bringing our troops home. These were mostly issues that the people who elected him said they wanted to see changed which was a big part of why he got elected (twice). He had to win a primary before he got elected (twice) and on the campaign trail these are issues people said they wanted him to do, or at lest try.

The media clips didn't show the question Carson was asked. He didn't "tell ... survivors that they should have done more ..." Carson simply said, when asked, what he would do.

Context is everything.