Yes...yes....this is my one reasonable/sensible post for this month.

that's it goofball! thread closed

I think that the NUMBER ONE thing to recognize in dealing with questions like this, is the most fundamental fact:

People are critters, and they have NOT evolved anywhere near as rapidly as you might want to imagine.

A more insightful question for you to ponder is, did people genuinely LIKE each other more, and truly get along with each other better in the past?

I personally would say no, absolutely not. If they did, we would not have a past nearly as filled with cases of spousal abuse, murder, domestic violence, and so on. There would not be ancient laws on the books, as there are, detailing the limits that a mate must adhere to when beating their mate for lack of cooperation.

I suggest that everyone set aside all romanticized notions about all this. People have been people for a VERY long time. The only thing which changes occasionally, are the labels we apply to each other.

It doesn't have anything to do with hating humans or the opposite sex.
It is that now we have more choices, & don't have to pretend anymore.
We no longer feel trapped, obligated or forced to stay for the sake of children..... & no shame.
NOT in Western Society.

that is all well and good but why did you get married to someone that could make you feel trapped in the first place?

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I think since the internet came about is part of the reason.

Its so easy to meet other people, fulfill fantasies that were less possible to before so people just got over it or didn't act on it.

now its all so easy, just go on the net and you can find pretty much all your desires and do it in secret by just deleting your internet history.

Hun? Are you talking to me Eric ?
You didn't tap quote.
I didn't say I did.
People in general did feel trapped & they were... Children, money, religion, shame, family etc..

directed at you sassy but meant in the whole group form.
if people don't truly take the time to form a bond and learn if trust is truly warranted the those vows should not have been said in the first place.

The internet made it easier for people to get their porn fix. Heck...back in the days you had to wear a spy ssuit and sneak into the porn shop to buy a VHS tape. Thank goodness the internet came along and did away with that.

and escorts, dating sites, so many married men contact me on here, that wouldn't have been possible before the net.

ha ha

For today, in Western Society.. I agree, why do people even bother?
Other than for legal rights & to not have bastard children, what is the point ? * sarcasm *

In the past. Like my female elders. They all married at 16-21 yr old (virgins). And they stayed married until death. It was a contract. With God & and a mate.
We're they happy? No, only one couple worked imo..
But none of those ancestors had a choice.
Today we have choice, but no contract with God or a mate.

Sarcasm . Most marriages (55%) here end in divorce the 4th year.
People do NOT take it seriously anymore. So, I really don't know why they bother ? They don't look at it as a Holy Covenant or legally or morality binding... so why are they doing it?
For the dress & the party & the pics?

just the wedding gifts

There is nothing that can substitute human companion, warmth, sharing of sorrow and joy, mutual help and even sex. Not even all the porn sites put together. Fantasizing on the images on the screen or hopping from one man/woman to the other and breaking other people's marriages only increase the inner heartache and illusion. Staying back to put more effort to make the marriage work is certainly a better if not the best option

I don't just mean over the net, I mean people meeting in person as well. A lot of married men on here have asked me to meet them at a hotel for sex. The answer NO and BLOCK, I don't go near married men.

Cheating just disgusts me and I've made that known to them.

That great, keep it up. You are extremely beautiful so expect more overtures from men lol!. And more grace to your "delete" and "block" buttons.

So why is even important to be married in today's society? To me, it turned into a joke both times. Some say for the benefit of the other, but the second time around we had pre-nups and transfer on deaths setup for the benefit of our kids from our first failed marriages. I'm finding out that more folks I know don't want to get married again, but does that mean they are going to stay celibate? Very doubtful and they also don't want to be tied to someone else just for the benefits. And what benefits, if they die first? So my first ex, if she doesn't remarry might get $250 a month more in SS, because we were married over tens years. WooHoo.

And with the supreme court ruling, that gays have the right to married, you know who applauded the loudest? The divorce attorneys. Why? Why do you thing, just increase their client base, because we know that gays have money.

But to answer your question it was harder, at least in Ohio, to get divorced in the olden days. I remember when my mom and dad divorced in the 60's, my mom told me the judge did everything to try to make them stay together for the sake of us kids. Even though my dad flat out cheated on her and was never home. Now back to present day, I got divorced mainly because we fought every night about how loud the TV was in the bedroom. Of course, judge didn't care and the divorce attorney just wanted his pay.

"how loud the TV was in the bedroom" And this was the "reason" for your divorce? And that was between two adults? Somebody was looking for a way out of that "marriage" prior to that incident. Nothing could be trivalier than that!