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Topic: Why is 'faith' or 'ideology' forced on us?
msharmony's photo
Fri 07/03/15 06:44 AM



Why do parents expect their children to accept the religion of the family?
---They would expect what they teach. Not only religion, but includes cultural practices, values, rules, etc.

Is it not logical that a child be exposed to all religions as history lessons so that he can form his own opinion when he matures?
---kids are exposed to a lot of things in their environment, especially now that everything is easily available thru media. Parents/guardians filter what they are exposed to accordingly. Then they learn to adjust on their own. Kids opinions are colored and formed based on their experience with the people around them. The ability to make one's own opinion, inference and point of view comes with maturity, not age. And yet, some adult opinions, can still be considered immature. While some kids, are pretty wise in their simplicity.

I feel this world would be a better place if we were allowed to choose our religion after eighteen.
--- not necissarily. Im pretty sure there is that population that will choose to do the wrong things, and make the world a worse place to live in, with or without extensive exposure to religions, ethnicities, ideologies, education. There will always be a point of conflict. If not religion or ideals, then territory, economics, difference in principles, attitudes, etc.

Your thoughts.
--- the world is probably becoming a worse place because of the lack of PROPER parental guidance. Too strict, too lax, too coddling, and too free and too neglectful are all dangerous. It's different for different people in different parts of the world.

I've a question regarding your original post...
Wasn't 1960's America an era of freedom from conformity in religion and ideology? And isn't this generation a product of that?





I am afraid you are confusing between religion, values, ethics and morality...

I am only talking about religion and all the myth and dogmatism that go with it. If you are talking about values, ethics and morality, they should be passed down the generations with reference to their implication on the society.

If I did something or plan to do something, let me ask to myself on the implication of my actions to others, to the society and eventually to myself...I would get all answers.

Building up of a conscience in the child as to what is universally right and wrong is the only responsibility of parents. Rest of it should be figured out by the person himself.




religions purpose IS to congregate with like minded individual to teach values, ethics, and morality

who says the bible or religious books dont also explain implications?

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 07/03/15 07:00 AM
OP....you wouldn't try to teach your ideologies to your children? Even if someone doesn't believe in God, that is an ideology and I would think the parent would teach that to their child.

Teaching a child is different than forcing it on a child.

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Fri 07/03/15 07:00 AM

OP- quoted

Living in the US you are probably oblivious of the happenings around the world. As I have written earlier, this is not about me but when I see the problems on the planet due to differences in faith and ideologies, it triggers many such questions in me.
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Oh I am familiar with ALL FIVE major religions. And the chaos of the world
* Which are not connected, imo *

Read your thread title & first post.
If you want NO reglion or ONE world religious order, you should of said that, in your first post.
If you blame your life or the chaos of the world on religion and ideologies, you should of said that, in your first post

Write your thought out, then post it.
Save some time by getting to the point & then people who want to post to you will & everyone else can move on.
grumble

Lukinfolov's photo
Fri 07/03/15 08:42 AM
Part of the world I live in, indoctrination is the way to teach religion to children and apostasy is a crime punishable by death.

ajaykc004's photo
Fri 07/03/15 09:06 AM
freedom to choose a religion or not to choose any should be the right way

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Fri 07/03/15 11:54 AM
Edited by Submaran16 on Fri 07/03/15 11:55 AM
We are all different and thank God for that. What a boring world if we were all the same. We should celebrate our differences not try to force our views on others.



Cheechako

How exactly are we humans different? I don't feel any different than my fellow man. Same sins, same confessions, same good, same evil. If God created ANY of us, then he created every last one of us, eh?

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Fri 07/03/15 03:23 PM

Why do parents expect their children to accept the religion of the family?

Is it not logical that a child be exposed to all religions as history lessons so that he can form his own opinion when he matures?

I feel this world would be a better place if we were allowed to choose our religion after eighteen.

Your thoughts.


I didn't follow in my parents religion...

In good-conscience I couldn't before long !

In-short... Every person should make their faith (Or Lack Of It) their own.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 07/03/15 03:26 PM

Part of the world I live in, indoctrination is the way to teach religion to children and apostasy is a crime punishable by death.


And yet you don't seem to be religious. Hmmmm

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Fri 07/03/15 04:15 PM

We are all different and thank God for that. What a boring world if we were all the same. We should celebrate our differences not try to force our views on others.



Cheechako

How exactly are we humans different? I don't feel any different than my fellow man. Same sins, same confessions, same good, same evil. If God created ANY of us, then he created every last one of us, eh?


We all have the same basic emotions, but not the same thoughts. No two people think exactly the same about every subject.

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Fri 07/03/15 04:51 PM


We are all different and thank God for that. What a boring world if we were all the same. We should celebrate our differences not try to force our views on others.



Cheechako

How exactly are we humans different? I don't feel any different than my fellow man. Same sins, same confessions, same good, same evil. If God created ANY of us, then he created every last one of us, eh?


No two people think exactly the same about every subject.


I disagree with this too. It's not like we're talking fingerprints here. Concerning faith and a belief in God, you either believe or you don't. How is this such a broad subject that two people can't have the exact same thought about it?

It's not.

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Fri 07/03/15 09:19 PM
Edited by Pansytilly on Fri 07/03/15 09:22 PM



We are all different and thank God for that. What a boring world if we were all the same. We should celebrate our differences not try to force our views on others.



Cheechako

How exactly are we humans different? I don't feel any different than my fellow man. Same sins, same confessions, same good, same evil. If God created ANY of us, then he created every last one of us, eh?


No two people think exactly the same about every subject.


I disagree with this too. It's not like we're talking fingerprints here. Concerning faith and a belief in God, you either believe or you don't. How is this such a broad subject that two people can't have the exact same thought about it?

It's not.


Its not whether or not you believe that makes the difference so big. Its how you believe...or don't.

Lukinfolov's photo
Sat 07/04/15 04:18 AM


Part of the world I live in, indoctrination is the way to teach religion to children and apostasy is a crime punishable by death.


And yet you don't seem to be religious. Hmmmm


I am an expat here in Qatar...originally from India.

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Sat 07/04/15 09:22 AM



We are all different and thank God for that. What a boring world if we were all the same. We should celebrate our differences not try to force our views on others.



Cheechako

How exactly are we humans different? I don't feel any different than my fellow man. Same sins, same confessions, same good, same evil. If God created ANY of us, then he created every last one of us, eh?


No two people think exactly the same about every subject.


I disagree with this too. It's not like we're talking fingerprints here. Concerning faith and a belief in God, you either believe or you don't. How is this such a broad subject that two people can't have the exact same thought about it?

It's not.



There are millions, maybe billions of people who believe in God. These are split into thousands of different churches all preaching something different. I have never met anyone who believes exactly what I believe. Have you?

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Sat 07/04/15 01:51 PM




We are all different and thank God for that. What a boring world if we were all the same. We should celebrate our differences not try to force our views on others.



Cheechako

How exactly are we humans different? I don't feel any different than my fellow man. Same sins, same confessions, same good, same evil. If God created ANY of us, then he created every last one of us, eh?


No two people think exactly the same about every subject.


I disagree with this too. It's not like we're talking fingerprints here. Concerning faith and a belief in God, you either believe or you don't. How is this such a broad subject that two people can't have the exact same thought about it?

It's not.



There are millions, maybe billions of people who believe in God. These are split into thousands of different churches all preaching something different. I have never met anyone who believes exactly what I believe. Have you?



Yes

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