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Sadly, they could have been better at specifying the separation of Church and State.

It's embarrassing how few U.S. citizens know whether the phrase "separation between Church and State" appears in our Constitution, or in the Declaration of Independence.

Those that know, know it's not in either one.

Instead I think it's a phrase taken from some private correspondence between the Founders.

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Where would the Founders have come down on the issue of whether parents should have the right to withhold their children from vaccination to promote herd immunity in our public (government) schools?
The Disney measles outbreak shows what can happen to public health when parents exercise their right to religious freedom.

So, Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, James Madison; how say you?

some of this is the media

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honestly, at least there are options,, public school should require residency, citizenship, and immunization

but public school shouldnt be the only option,,, online school is becoming more and more popular....

I've read most everything within my grasp for: George Washington/John Adams and Thomas Jefferson --- they were all firmly and eloquently opposed to having 'ANY STATE' labeled religion included in our constitution or the bill of rights...yes, they were getting loads of pressure from the religious leaning locals to 'PUT OUR FAITH BEFORE ALL OTHERS'!

That's why it is set up in our 'BILL OF RIGHTS' --- they weren't going to leave it up to a 'WHAT IF'!



Given that these early leaders were such forward thinking men and their courage and fortitude {as they leaned and learned from each other} to do what they felt necessary to take on/defy the KING OF ENGLAND - to me there's no doubt whatsoever that they would have enforced any and all vaccinations if it was going to save the 'MASSES'!

Look at how many original natives were wiped out by their bringing in a 'flu virus'; decimated thousands of the natives!
Yes, I firmly believe that preventive medicine would have been something that those early founders would have taken special interests in.

Good Point, Harmony; this is a very pressing issue here in my area...and when I was small we had excellent county health nurses that came to our rural farm to do our shots! That's no longer funded as a door-to-door service. I currently live in what is known as 'Poverty Pocket' of KS - we don't even have a county health department ...it's in the next county over!

Yes.
But that distinguishes options, from rights.
Government compels the education, but offers leeway on how it is provided.

So you embrace the idea government has the legitimate right and power to compel primary education, for the good of the whole People?

And if so, why not also medical immunizations?

Where do you draw the line?

Unquestionably!
But they didn't include the phrase "separation of Church and State" in the United States Constitution; an unfortunate omission.

What the U.S. Founders "were all firmly and eloquently opposed to" is philosophy.

What the U.S. Founders enshrined in our explicitly worded Constitution is:

Thus sadly, article one of our Bill of rights notwithstanding, "separation of Church and State" is a philosophical distinction, not an explicit legal doctrine.
It's principle.
It is not law, as written.

Yes, I do believe in mandatory education and a requirement for immunization where children are regularly gathered in large groups for hours a day five days a week


Government only mandates children receive education, they may pay for private school or attend government run public school or be homeschooled,,, and now perhaps more will choose homeschooling