Topic: 15 disturbing facts about 9/11
Lpdon's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:04 AM


just another bush/republican bashing video... they are a dime a dozen on youtube...

so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?

republicans and democrats are the same thing moe. its not bashing republicans, its pointing out that none of the official 9/11 report makes any sense.


Reporters report wrong information all the time.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:10 AM


video was published on june 8th 2015, and currently has:

3,300 likes
251 dislikes

if all this is BS, why is the majority clearly saying its not?


Popular does not make it fact.



I wouldn't call 3,000 popular........

Lpdon's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:12 AM





just another bush/republican bashing video... they are a dime a dozen on youtube...

so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?


i don't, can't won't... whether they tore it down or it fell, what does building 7 matter? the whole area was torn down anyway, and they got everyone out of the building, so why does building 7 matter in the least?


building 7 comes in to play to complete the story
do research and see how long it takes to pull a building and make it land in its own foot print .... just like the other 2 buildings

it can not be done in the amount of time they say

thing he is leaving out is all the people that where saying it was a black flag attack are dead .... way to many to be normal

as well as the moltain steal that the people on sight seen
that facts are there
people will see what they want to see


that's the one thing i cannot make sense of, the molten metal pouring out of the top... everything else i can get a grip on, but i have no explanation for that... not enough for me to think any different, but it is a mystery to me...


I am sure Metalwing could explain it better. He knows more about this kids of thing then anyone on this website.

germanchoclate1981's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:13 AM
F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.

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Fri 06/26/15 12:13 AM



just another bush/republican bashing video... they are a dime a dozen on youtube...

so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?

republicans and democrats are the same thing moe. its not bashing republicans, its pointing out that none of the official 9/11 report makes any sense.


Reporters report wrong information all the time.

BS, you dont report building 7 has fallen, when its clearly in the background of where you are standing. reporters are dumb sure, but not dumb enough to report a building falling down, thats clearly in the background. if she mistook it for one of the other towers, they are referred to as north and south towers. so if it was really a mess up, why was she even talking about building 7 in the first place. and it has nothing to do with republicans or democrats. theyre both equally crooked. theyre the same god damn thing.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:14 AM




video was published on june 8th 2015, and currently has:

3,300 likes
251 dislikes

if all this is BS, why is the majority clearly saying its not?
So are we REALLY lowered to using youtube video likes and dislikes as measure of fact nowadays?
EL-OH-Motherfrickin-EL, we're screwed laugh

yes archer, everything on youtube is 100% fact, i confirmed that by watching another youtube video


laugh laugh laugh laugh


I am hoping he is joking, if he's not he is more disturbed then I originally thought.

no photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:16 AM
Edited by tomato86 on Fri 06/26/15 12:16 AM

F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.

exactly, it might help the governments case when they said a plane hit the pentagon, if there was actually wreckage of a plane there. there wasnt.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:16 AM

windsor hotel burns for 23 hours, on many floors and remains standing, steel structure stays intact. south tower burned for 56 minutes, north tower burned for 102 minutes, and fell freefall style. that doesnt sound a little odd to you?


Yea, the hotel didn't have basically two missiles hitting it within minutes of each other.

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Fri 06/26/15 12:17 AM





video was published on june 8th 2015, and currently has:

3,300 likes
251 dislikes

if all this is BS, why is the majority clearly saying its not?
So are we REALLY lowered to using youtube video likes and dislikes as measure of fact nowadays?
EL-OH-Motherfrickin-EL, we're screwed laugh

yes archer, everything on youtube is 100% fact, i confirmed that by watching another youtube video


laugh laugh laugh laugh


I am hoping he is joking, if he's not he is more disturbed then I originally thought.


i googled "is everything on youtube a fact" and the first result said yes, therefore anything on youtube is fact.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:18 AM

F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.


sorry, jenga has absolutely nothing to do with the dynamics of the WTC...

both buildings were built the same way, and did the same thing when they fell, so i would say your just wrong in your guessing here...

no photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:22 AM
"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day. But a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers (administrations), too plainly proves a deliberate systematic plan of reducing us to slavery." --U.S. President Thomas Jefferson

"There is no possible way those buildings could have collapsed the way they did from fire." --Tim Sullivan, Controlled Demolition, Inc.

Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force Fighter Pilot, "The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." (source)

Capt. Russ Wittenberg says, "The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." "It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. …The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile." --Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force Fighter Pilot with over 100 combat missions. Commercial pilot for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. 30,000+ total hours flown. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines aircraft that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, the 757 that impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second 757 plane to hit the WTC).

germanchoclate1981's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:22 AM
Edited by germanchoclate1981 on Fri 06/26/15 12:34 AM

over 200 views in less than 3 hours, i would say i definitely accomplished my goal of once again bringing light to the fraud that was 9/11. there are threads that have been on here for days, and dont have this many views, but yet only the same few people seem to be the only ones commenting. seems like alot of people are interested in this and watching what we are saying, but too afraid to comment in fear of being ridiculed. dont be afraid, its a forum, we are here to talk. if you think 9/11 is clearly a fraud speak up! if you think criminals have hijacked our government and are steering us downward, speak up! the information is all there, its so god damned easy to see. our government is about to sell us out with the TPP, one step closer to the new world order global government, and people are still denying it. sometimes people just will not believe no matter how much evidence you show them. THESE CRIMINALS ARE ON RECORD SAYING WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THE U.S., AND THEY ARE DOING IT RIGHT NOW, AND PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING TO DENY IT! WAKE UP!

dont be afriad to speak up, us "truthers" are the majority!



"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"In the size of the lie there is always contained a certain factor of credibility, since the great mass of people will more easily fall victims to a great lie than to a small one." --Adolph Hitler

"Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool." --Plato

"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." --J. Edgar Hoover


The fear is perfectly clear in the AC360 POLL here. 3 years in on the anniversary on a pretty damned popular show with millions
Millions
Of viewers only 10k vote? Why? Because most are afraid or too shocked by the annual revival of 911. It sickens me today. You want to sicken an old man mention June 6 1944. Mention Dec 7th 1941. Show the picture of iwojima Guadal canal. Hiroshima
Nagasaki. Auschwitz.
Now back to our 10k. 11% believe it just happened.
How many times have you wrecked a car burned a house down sickened everyone on a bus got divorce papers lost a child to an overdose and had three relatives diagnosed with stage 4 cancer or have heart attacks. Let's say within 1 no, 4 months?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:23 AM


F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.

exactly, it might help the governments case when they said a plane hit the pentagon, if there was actually wreckage of a plane there. there wasnt.


and i was under the impression that missiles exploded when they hit something, and that hole was not from an explosion... and they found all sorts of parts from the plane, you just choose to ignore that part...

no photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:25 AM


F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.


sorry, jenga has absolutely nothing to do with the dynamics of the WTC...

both buildings were built the same way, and did the same thing when they fell, so i would say your just wrong in your guessing here...


no offense moe, but..
"There is no possible way those buildings could have collapsed the way they did from fire." --Tim Sullivan, Controlled Demolition, Inc.

what makes you so qualified to say that, this guy owns a god damn demolition company, and he said theres no way fire could have made them fall like that. so im not aware of you owning any demo companies, so what makes your theory more substantiated, than someone whos owns a demo company?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:38 AM



F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.


sorry, jenga has absolutely nothing to do with the dynamics of the WTC...

both buildings were built the same way, and did the same thing when they fell, so i would say your just wrong in your guessing here...


no offense moe, but..
"There is no possible way those buildings could have collapsed the way they did from fire." --Tim Sullivan, Controlled Demolition, Inc.

what makes you so qualified to say that, this guy owns a god damn demolition company, and he said theres no way fire could have made them fall like that. so im not aware of you owning any demo companies, so what makes your theory more substantiated, than someone whos owns a demo company?


no one says you have to believe anything i say, believe what you want... i'm just stating logic here based on what i know about physics... for someone to say "there's no possible way" already draws a flag, because the buildings did just that... it would better to say it's unlikely, it shouldn't have happened that way, or anything other than what he's declaring...


think about it this way: whats a more likely way things would happen - the buildings falling like that naturally, with only the planes, or a controlled demo making them fall that way, from the top floors? have you ever seen a controlled demo starting at the top? either way, the buildings fell like they did, so your points here are mute just for the fact they fell just as they did, controlled demo or not... so his "there's no way they could have fallen that way" means very little...

germanchoclate1981's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:44 AM



F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.

exactly, it might help the governments case when they said a plane hit the pentagon, if there was actually wreckage of a plane there. there wasnt.


and i was under the impression that missiles exploded when they hit something, and that hole was not from an explosion... and they found all sorts of parts from the plane, you just choose to ignore that part...

You don't get out much do you? Missiles do whatever we program them to do. Bombs explode on impact unless they are programmed to delay (bunker busters) there are even smart munitions that air burst and spray hot copper slugs that explode when they hit a hard target. Those are antitank group artillery. Tow missiles, guided. Heat seeking, these are all real. The nuke they lost in Georgia was not 'armed' and it's highly doubted that anyone could arm it now.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:45 AM






just another bush/republican bashing video... they are a dime a dozen on youtube...

so how do you explain the news reporter saying "building 7 has just fallen" as its clearly still standing in the background, and didnt fall till 20 minutes later?


i don't, can't won't... whether they tore it down or it fell, what does building 7 matter? the whole area was torn down anyway, and they got everyone out of the building, so why does building 7 matter in the least?


building 7 comes in to play to complete the story
do research and see how long it takes to pull a building and make it land in its own foot print .... just like the other 2 buildings

it can not be done in the amount of time they say

thing he is leaving out is all the people that where saying it was a black flag attack are dead .... way to many to be normal

as well as the moltain steal that the people on sight seen
that facts are there
people will see what they want to see


that's the one thing i cannot make sense of, the molten metal pouring out of the top... everything else i can get a grip on, but i have no explanation for that... not enough for me to think any different, but it is a mystery to me...

Thermite.
Why building7, not 3, not 6, not 5, 7. Pull it, then it goes.
Nobody's saying a reporter couldn't make a mistake, but one that has 0 chance of occurring... No plane hit that building, no debris. Still no reason at all for any liquid steel. Glass, yes. Jet fuel aflame can vaporize glass but not steel.

Thermite?
What do you know about Thermite?laugh

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Fri 06/26/15 12:46 AM




F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.


sorry, jenga has absolutely nothing to do with the dynamics of the WTC...

both buildings were built the same way, and did the same thing when they fell, so i would say your just wrong in your guessing here...


no offense moe, but..
"There is no possible way those buildings could have collapsed the way they did from fire." --Tim Sullivan, Controlled Demolition, Inc.

what makes you so qualified to say that, this guy owns a god damn demolition company, and he said theres no way fire could have made them fall like that. so im not aware of you owning any demo companies, so what makes your theory more substantiated, than someone whos owns a demo company?


no one says you have to believe anything i say, believe what you want... i'm just stating logic here based on what i know about physics... for someone to say "there's no possible way" already draws a flag, because the buildings did just that... it would better to say it's unlikely, it shouldn't have happened that way, or anything other than what he's declaring...


think about it this way: whats a more likely way things would happen - the buildings falling like that naturally, with only the planes, or a controlled demo making them fall that way, from the top floors? have you ever seen a controlled demo starting at the top? either way, the buildings fell like they did, so your points here are mute just for the fact they fell just as they did, controlled demo or not... so his "there's no way they could have fallen that way" means very little...

well coming from a guy who owns a demo company, im sure hes pretty knowledgable on it. he didnt say "theres no possible way the buildings could fall like that" he said "There is no possible way those buildings could have collapsed the way they did from fire."

buildings can fall like that, sure. through controlled demo. i dont believe that buildings would fall like that from fire damage.

and to add to the 9/11 hoax, where was the plane wreckage at the pentagon moe?

once again moe, im not saying this to insult you. just trying to get a discussion going to show that the 9/11 official story makes little sense. there is thousands of people from military/intelligence/scientists saying the 9/11 story is BS. i tend to believe them as they have vastly better knowledge on this kind of thing than i have. and they have nothing to gain by saying this, but im sure some have a lot to lose.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:47 AM




F'n straight Jenga. Ask any material scientist, Engineer, architect. There are rules to rotatingstructure going up if you want to avoid blow over, the worst type of above ground failure. Pallets, bricks, cinder blocks are not one exactly on top of the other. They're staggered or rotated. Look at the pyramids, any old stone or brick structure still standing has a staggered pattern or rotational tie in. Once you go up so many stories like the Sears tower, Chrysler building, there is more use of steel girters and glass facades because bricks and the soil beneath couldn't support the weight above.
Everything 5-10 floors under the impacts or floor 90 and down should still be standing. If it was one plane that hit one building
Wtf a few hundred families grieve.
One plane, two, three buildings down at wtc, Pentagon hit, flight 93. Where are the wing marks at the Pentagon? There are none because whatever hit the Pentagon didn't have wings.

exactly, it might help the governments case when they said a plane hit the pentagon, if there was actually wreckage of a plane there. there wasnt.


and i was under the impression that missiles exploded when they hit something, and that hole was not from an explosion... and they found all sorts of parts from the plane, you just choose to ignore that part...

You don't get out much do you? Missiles do whatever we program them to do. Bombs explode on impact unless they are programmed to delay (bunker busters) there are even smart munitions that air burst and spray hot copper slugs that explode when they hit a hard target. Those are antitank group artillery. Tow missiles, guided. Heat seeking, these are all real. The nuke they lost in Georgia was not 'armed' and it's highly doubted that anyone could arm it now.


so they just shot a missile in there that didn't explode...huh

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 06/26/15 12:47 AM
I like the nano thermite theory! As the prof said (since fired from his job) 'hundreds of tons!' and then, we learn it can be mixed with regular explosive and painted onto beams but of course, CTs can't decide if it was melting steel or exploding it.

Hundreds of tons, painted onto beams. Mixed with regular everyday corner store C4 and brought up in lunch buckets, five pounds at a time for ............... let's see ......... five pounds, and a hundred tons ...................... that's two hundred thousand pounds ................... five pounds for forty thousand trips with the thermite not to mention the C4.

Or, Jeb Bush helping (Cheney's heart wouldn't take the strain), that's only twenty thousand trips a piece just to get the stuff there.

Ok, so, is there any record of workers all over the place with buckets of slop bringing hundreds of tons into the access panels to paint this crap onto the beams and pillars? And, when working with slop, it doesn't all go where you want it to, is there any record of people over the months/weeks/years whatever getting sick from having a strange substance (which explosives do to people) getting sick from contact their skin and even their food or drink? That is probably the main evidence that there was an inside job is the sickness rate of the people who worked in the WTC.

And, now we have to get the charges up there remembering that every place there was this 'special' material sloped on, it has to blow as the evidence can't remain as some shmuck worker on the ground might pull up a fragment of metal with a piece of det cord, remote det or whatever on it attatched to some painted on explosive thermite which didn't go off.

So, that's a lot of stuff to get done. Lot of people. Lot of construction people with passes, excuses, paychecks etc. All without being noticed by the union who took care of the buildings.

How did they do it? And, without anybody getting sick, spilling one once of this stuff onto the carpets, clothes, into the air ducts, and without being noticed? And the unions had no problem i with these non union guys just doing all this work too.

And ... everything hinges on the planes hitting the buildings. If they don't hit, the explosives will be discovered and the guys that put it all there (100 - 1000 non union guys) will get lethal injections. They have no problem doing this work over weeks or months knowing that their *** is covered by dirty terrorists living in caves in Afghanistan so, are in like a dirty shirt. on the big day, they're nervous, they have to have the explosive evidence all destroyed or their *** is toast in Terra Haute so they're anxious yet, once the planes hit, they wait ............ calmly waiting ........ they need all the evidence to go up. They can't have any inspector see the explosives, wires, detonators, remote devices whatever yet they wait ....... and wait ........ long after they could logically blow the building .........rolling on the floor laughing

with the sleep sleepsleep WT7 just sitting there with anybody who wants to find the explosives there about to expose the whole thing sending them all to the injection chamber and then ........

They blow it.

Nothing far fetched going on there. Union guys risking their lives on the promise that some dudes living in a cave will come through with an elaborate plan kept secret for years and on four separate planes. And nobody has said a word, nobody has had any seocnd thoughts of guilt, nobody has found religion or guilt in all this time. Nobody has gotten murdered, none of the people who are exposing this conspiracy are being silenced.

The entire government of the USA wants them dead and here they are, just targets for a poisoning, letter bomb, faulty ground in a hot tub, a heart attack and ......... they're all still spewing the nonsense. laugh