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the bible, the constitution, the declaration of independence
Answer: What are , documents written in another time and culture that people will always debate the meaning of,,,,,,? |
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the bible, the constitution, the declaration of independence Answer: What are , documents written in another time and culture that people will always debate the meaning of,,,,,,? May be another time, but it's quite ignorant to think the philosophies of all are obsolete due to the development of technology. Human nature, the movement of power, the dynamics of government and the governed have not changed. |
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Edited by
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Is the Right To Life and the Right to defend it obsolete? There is no "Right to Life" in the Constitution. It doesn't have to be. The Declaration of Independence outlined it as an "inalienable right". Meaning; regardless of what any other document says, citizens should know they have a right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". No government can tell us otherwise. It also states that if the government becomes "destructive to these ends" it is the "right" and responsibility to alter and/or abolish said government. This is where the second amendment comes in. If the meaning were only that people working for the government could have arms, then how could the people be guaranteed the ability to "alter" or "abolish" said government? The Declaration is a mindset, a statement made that encourages people to keep their independence, rather than hand the power to make ALL decisions to a select body of people. If the constitution is the brain, the Declaration of Independence is the heart. One cannot survive without the other. I believe it was Jefferson who said; "If men cannot be trusted to govern themselves, then how can they be trusted to govern others? Or has god granted us angels in the form of kings to watch over us? Let history answer this question." Among several reasons, the Declaration was never made into a legally binding document in the United States, precisely because it DOES talk about an inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. At least half of the United States which came into being over a decade after the Declaration was signed and published, were extremely opposed to those concepts. None of the people who that document talked about, were citizens of the United States. The Declaration does NOT overrule any other document. It doesn't have any legal force whatsoever in the United States. Because at the time it was written and signed, the United States didn't exist. My only point continues to be, that the second Amendment is open to interpretation. It has BEEN reinterpreted many times, including by the Supreme Court. It could do with a bit of a rewrite, for the sake of clarification, however I wouldn't trust anyone in office today to take on that job. |
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Is the Right To Life and the Right to defend it obsolete? There is no "Right to Life" in the Constitution. It doesn't have to be. The Declaration of Independence outlined it as an "inalienable right". Meaning; regardless of what any other document says, citizens should know they have a right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". No government can tell us otherwise. It also states that if the government becomes "destructive to these ends" it is the "right" and responsibility to alter and/or abolish said government. This is where the second amendment comes in. If the meaning were only that people working for the government could have arms, then how could the people be guaranteed the ability to "alter" or "abolish" said government? The Declaration is a mindset, a statement made that encourages people to keep their independence, rather than hand the power to make ALL decisions to a select body of people. If the constitution is the brain, the Declaration of Independence is the heart. One cannot survive without the other. I believe it was Jefferson who said; "If men cannot be trusted to govern themselves, then how can they be trusted to govern others? Or has god granted us angels in the form of kings to watch over us? Let history answer this question." Among several reasons, the Declaration was never made into a legally binding document in the United States, precisely because it DOES talk about an inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. At least half of the United States which came into being over a decade after the Declaration was signed and published, were extremely opposed to those concepts. None of the people who that document talked about, were citizens of the United States. The Declaration does NOT overrule any other document. It doesn't have any legal force whatsoever in the United States. Because at the time it was written and signed, the United States didn't exist. My only point continues to be, that the second Amendment is open to interpretation. It has BEEN reinterpreted many times, including by the Supreme Court. It could do with a bit of a rewrite, for the sake of clarification, however I wouldn't trust anyone in office today to take on that job. "the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" how is that up for interpretation? |
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B. O. R. ARTICLE #2: Ratified December 15, 1791
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. |
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the bible, the constitution, the declaration of independence Answer: What are , documents written in another time and culture that people will always debate the meaning of,,,,,,? May be another time, but it's quite ignorant to think the philosophies of all are obsolete due to the development of technology. Human nature, the movement of power, the dynamics of government and the governed have not changed. interpretation doesnt imply that anything is obsolete,, it just considers the language of the times and what it referred to in that time, people have changed, the culture has changed, the needs have changed, the capabilities and tools have changed,,,,, the bible, for instance, had directions on how to treat slaves, so some say it supported slavery, and others believe it was only addressing what was already in THAT culture some things do change their refrence when the culture changes,,,, |
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"the bible, for instance, had directions on how to treat slaves" mh
"Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you so much for trying to educate people regarding god's law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:12 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. But I need some advice from you, regarding some of the other specific laws and how best to follow them. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the lord (Leviticus 1:9), the problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this? I would like to sell my daughter into slavery as suggested by Exodus 21:7. What do you think a fair price would be? I know I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Leviticus 19:24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking. But some women take offense. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I obliged morally to kill him myself, or may I hire a hit-man? I know you have studied these things extensively, and so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that god's word is eternal, & unchanging." source unknown: it's been rattling around cyber-space for decades |
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"the bible, for instance, had directions on how to treat slaves" mh "Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you so much for trying to educate people regarding god's law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:12 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. But I need some advice from you, regarding some of the other specific laws and how best to follow them. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the lord (Leviticus 1:9), the problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this? I would like to sell my daughter into slavery as suggested by Exodus 21:7. What do you think a fair price would be? I know I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Leviticus 19:24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking. But some women take offense. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I obliged morally to kill him myself, or may I hire a hit-man? I know you have studied these things extensively, and so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that god's word is eternal, & unchanging." source unknown: it's been rattling around cyber-space for decades great example, this was a book pertaining to the CULTURAL practices of that period a better example of Gods unchanging word, are those attributed to Jesus himself,,, Matthew 15:19For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.” of course , many will interpret sexual immorality as only fornication, (adultery was already mentioned in the statement) |
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"The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision." - Lynn Lavner
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"The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision." - Lynn Lavner
lol, cute, deceptive,, but cute |
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Well stated mh.
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