No Dodo is correct on this. Even non murderous actions are usually referred to as slay. There is a misinterpretation in the KJV. Otherwise we would all be vegetarians. Right?

i guess it depends on how you see it... it says man is dominate over animals, so in reference to "thou shallt not kill" means humans, not cows... but no matter how you look at it, i don't see god wanting wars and famine, murder, killing of other humans... the whole bible is about man dealing with other men, not animals...


and, you kill plants when you eat them - not all, but most... so neither one of y'all are making any sense to me over this...

Yes but from your stance...it could be taken different too. It was a translation issue in the KJV. But even as you say kill. Does it speak only about humans? No. Going by kill...that should mean no killing anything. It wasn't specific.

Does that make sense? No. That is why thou shalt not murder is correct.

i would think so, but i don't see god want anyone to kill anyone else... sounds like your justifying wars... god wants wars? it wants to kill everything that doesn't believe in it? sounds a bit far off to me... but i'm not a religion scholar, so interpret how you want...

Where did I justify anything? All I was doing was clarifying which points oit an example of the OP

I am not interpreting anything. How others take it is on them. It was a translation error from the KJV

then what are you saying? it's ok to kill, but not to murder? whats the difference? you kill in war, but it's not murder? just like i've said in here numerous times, everyone interprets the bible differently, neither one of us is right or wrong... if you feel it's in error in the bible, then fine... this is the exact reasons why people of different faiths find it hard to get along, when they start arguing over something as silly as this... the whole point was we are not supposed to kill/murder other humans.. sorry you feel differently about that

Focus... i am clarifying and agreeing with what Dodo said about the wrong text in that version. This is prime example of why things are misinterpreted and taken out of context (as an example to the OP)

I didn't voice my opinion one way or another. I believe what I do and really don't care what others believe.

You are misinterpreting what I am saying. Another example for the OP

don't put words in my mouth. Murder....no. Sometimes killing is necessary (example...in self defense or to protect others). I also pointed out the Bible didn't specify humans in that commandment. Just pointing that out to you before.

Come on...baiting doesn't work. Twist away

lol, not twisting anything...there is nothing to twist there, that what this post is about... if you "feel" the text is wrong, then o frigging k, not my problem... it also seems that we are repeating each others comments and then butting heads over it... why is that? your fist sentence on this post is what i've said at least 8 times on this thread, but yet i'm twisting things? calm down, go drink a diet coke or something, sheesh...

I don't like people putting words in my mouth. I am perfectly calm. Just setting it straight. Google about the commandment or don't. I have my beliefs and really don't care if people agree or not. I was debating the translation. Not the meaning or right or wrong.

Things I said were misinterpreted or twisted. Much like the OP was asking about.

Point proven

yes, exactly...

No, I am not making crap up. The New International Version, the English Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible and the New King James Version all translate Exodus 20:13 as, "You shall not murder."

what about romans 13:9? and why is this even a discussion? so your right, i'm wrong... isn't this whole thread about how we interpret the bible in the first place? you want to change the bible to suit your needs, go ahead, no sweat off my balls...

Uh, I haven't changed the Bible. I'm just not a member of the KJV-Only cult.

Anyway, here is Romans 13:9 as given in several modern English versions:

NIV: "The commandments, "��You shall not commit adultery,"�� "��You shall not murder,"�� ..."

ESV: "The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery,"�� "��You shall not murder,"�� ..."

NASB: "For this, "��You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder,"..."

NKJV: " For the commandments, "�"You shall not commit adultery,"�� "You shall not murder,"��..."

Keep in mind that the KJV isn't the standard for comparison.

which, again, i cannot understand why you started this post just to argue, but everyone interprets the bible in a different way( thats the 10th time i've said this)... i had thought we agreed on that in the first few posts, but i guess i was wrong, just like i'm wrong for reading what i read... are you wanting to argue the semantics of murder vrs kill? is that even covered in the bible? so tell me david, since your the bible expert here, whats the difference? if you kill/murder someone, they are still just as dead, not alive anymore... the only difference is the meaning we put on that... your driving drunk and hit a van full of nuns, and they all die.. not murder, but they are all dead because of you and your actions... are you saying that's ok in gods eyes? it wasn't murder, now was it? do our laws make up the bibles meanings now? some d_ckhead changes something in the bible and thats supposed to change what god wants/means? i seriously do not get your point david..

Semantics...

Would it not be just the same as asking whether murder vs homicide vs manslaughter is a crime or not...?

And is not hatred and anger stemming from one's heart already constitute as sin even without the act ...?

according to one "prophet" you are correct in your statement.

Prophet, messiah, and maybe a couple of apostles...