Topic: Taking Religious Verses Out Of Context?
regularfeller's photo
Thu 06/11/15 07:59 AM
When I was a boy and asked my dad why his brothers got so mad when arguing over what the bible says, he said to me:

"Son, some people got to make someone else believe what they believe. They figure if they can talk you into it, it must be right. Course, you can talk another feller into robbing a bank too.


Believe what you want. I'm gonna believe what I want. I'm not really trying to change minds. I am trying to figure how good religion is best exampled by people scathingly chastising anyone that has a contrary thought.

I find it humorous to watch tap dancing around point blank questions that go unanswered. Not because the answer cannot be known, but because it doesn't want to be admitted.

The fact that the bibles of the world can be interpreted many different ways makes them fallible works. And a fallible work is not that of an infallible god.


Now, I dance!
:banana:
ON THIS "ROCKO", I BUILD MY CHURCH:

You just do you (and what), umma do me,
Umma do me, umma do me
You just do you (and what), umma do me, umma do me, umma do me
Wanna see how it's done? Then watch me do me,
Watch me do me, watch me do me
Wanna see how it's done? Then watch me do me,
Watch me do me, watch me do me

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Thu 06/11/15 08:19 AM


The fact that the bibles of the world can be interpreted many different ways makes them fallible works. And a fallible work is not that of an infallible god.




You sure about that?:wink: ..Ima thinkin you stopped too soon and me not even a believer in the biblical sense....bigsmile


Dance with me!:banana: :banana: :banana:

regularfeller's photo
Thu 06/11/15 09:01 AM



The fact that the bibles of the world can be interpreted many different ways makes them fallible works. And a fallible work is not that of an infallible god.




You sure about that?:wink: ..Ima thinkin you stopped too soon and me not even a believer in the biblical sense....bigsmile


Dance with me!:banana: :banana: :banana:


I'm POSITIVE about that! (stopped too soon?)

:banana: :banana:

Shake your bon-bon, shake your bon-bon, shake your bon-bon.

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Thu 06/11/15 09:19 AM




The fact that the bibles of the world can be interpreted many different ways makes them fallible works. And a fallible work is not that of an infallible god.




You sure about that?:wink: ..Ima thinkin you stopped too soon and me not even a believer in the biblical sense....bigsmile


Dance with me!:banana: :banana: :banana:


I'm POSITIVE about that! (stopped too soon?)

:banana: :banana:

Shake your bon-bon, shake your bon-bon, shake your bon-bon.


Maybe the fact that the "bibles" of the world are interpretive is the very thing that keeps people reading them...:wink:

Just dancin with ya..:banana:

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Thu 06/11/15 09:32 AM

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Thu 06/11/15 09:34 AM




And ask him to bring me a beer while you're at it....

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Thu 06/11/15 09:41 AM
And ask him to bring me a beer while you're at
it....
It IS almost noon here...thanks for the reminderdrinker

regularfeller's photo
Thu 06/11/15 09:55 AM

Maybe the fact that the "bibles" of the world are interpretive is the very thing that keeps people reading them...:wink:

Just dancin with ya..:banana:


Millions of people reading Harry Potter books don't make them true, factual, or relevant. Read 'em if you wanna but don't expect me to go running around catchin' hog warts!


:banana: :banana:


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Thu 06/11/15 10:12 AM


Maybe the fact that the "bibles" of the world are interpretive is the very thing that keeps people reading them...:wink:

Just dancin with ya..:banana:


Millions of people reading Harry Potter books don't make them true, factual, or relevant. Read 'em if you wanna but don't expect me to go running around catchin' hog warts!


:banana: :banana:




Damn good thang I wasn't talkin bout you then!....:tongue:


regularfeller's photo
Thu 06/11/15 10:19 AM



Maybe the fact that the "bibles" of the world are interpretive is the very thing that keeps people reading them...:wink:

Just dancin with ya..:banana:


Millions of people reading Harry Potter books don't make them true, factual, or relevant. Read 'em if you wanna but don't expect me to go running around catchin' hog warts!


:banana: :banana:




Damn good thang I wasn't talkin bout you then!....:tongue:




Oh, I thought you were talking to me...my mistake...

Carry on while I just....:banana: ....ease on down...ease on down the roooooadd!

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Thu 06/11/15 10:39 AM
The FOOL has said in his heart, there is no God. Spiritual things are foolishness to them that PERISH

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 06/11/15 11:26 AM
Verses are taken out of context mainly to fit "their" agenda rather then God's intended agenda. People will always want to do what "they" want rather then specifically what "God" wants from us.

regularfeller's photo
Thu 06/11/15 12:31 PM

Verses are taken out of context mainly to fit "their" agenda rather then God's intended agenda. People will always want to do what "they" want rather then specifically what "God" wants from us.



surprised

For once I can partially agree with you! (Still think men wrote the texts that were later piecemealed together and made into "the bible" using their own thoughts, words and ideals)

But, that aside, and even for sake of argument stipulating that the bible is the word of the god, this is the very reason I am constantly railing about my lack of affinity for organized religion. Agendas and egos determine the interpretation of the passages, taxes the people, and oppresses them.

What should be and what is reality are two different things.

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Thu 06/11/15 01:08 PM


Verses are taken out of context mainly to fit "their" agenda rather then God's intended agenda. People will always want to do what "they" want rather then specifically what "God" wants from us.



surprised

For once I can partially agree with you! (Still think men wrote the texts that were later piecemealed together and made into "the bible" using their own thoughts, words and ideals)

But, that aside, and even for sake of argument stipulating that the bible is the word of the god, this is the very reason I am constantly railing about my lack of affinity for organized religion. Agendas and egos determine the interpretation of the passages, taxes the people, and oppresses them.

What should be and what is reality are two different things.


That is true. And that is why I'm not bapstist, not catholic, not church of christ, not any "specific" Christ group so to speak. I'm a Christian, a God loving man who first follows after our great God Jesus Christ as best I can. It's not about "religion" my friends, God couldn't care less bout "religion". It's all entirely bout belief in him, there is no compremising.

For instance, I don't believe without a doubt not one "group" has it absolutely correct... baptists, prostents, church of Christ, Jehovah, ect... but they do have it right between their difference when there was a connection they didn't see.

It's not about the "organization", it's about what Christ did and told us, amen!! <3

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Thu 06/11/15 02:49 PM
So, what religious verses, if any, do you believe are often taken out of context?

Luke 16:23

In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.


Revelation 20:14

Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

I think the parable about Lazarus is interpreted as an eternal hellfire.

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Thu 06/11/15 04:17 PM

So, what religious verses, if any, do you believe are often taken out of context?

Luke 16:23

In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.


Revelation 20:14

Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

I think the parable about Lazarus is interpreted as an eternal hellfire.


This goes into the what the other thread is talking about. Not saying it is, as I haven't specifically checked out the "story line" you're speaking of atm. But Revolutations is speaking of the Lake of fire and hades is the resting place of the dead... Hades is the exact same as "hell" or even in our today's language "grave", it is the abode of the dead.

The lake of fire will continue to burn even after hell is destroyed and or the second coming or any reference in such area(s). As hell is destroyed/burned up inside of the lake of fire.

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Thu 06/11/15 04:19 PM

Verses are taken out of context mainly to fit "their" agenda rather then God's intended agenda. People will always want to do what "they" want rather then specifically what "God" wants from us.


taken out of context... when people write parables, the only way to take it out of context is listening to the authors POV on it... everything else is just a guess, no one is write or wrong...

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Thu 06/11/15 04:24 PM


Verses are taken out of context mainly to fit "their" agenda rather then God's intended agenda. People will always want to do what "they" want rather then specifically what "God" wants from us.


taken out of context... when people write parables, the only way to take it out of context is listening to the authors POV on it... everything else is just a guess, no one is write or wrong...


True to an extent. But Jesus was the only one that spoke in parables... and that would then lead down as the other thread is speaking of atm "context".

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Thu 06/11/15 04:27 PM
People can twist scripture to serve their own purpose. Example: 2 Corinthians 6:14...do not be unequally yoked. My ex's dad claimed that was about interracial relationships. My mouth dropped! No where in that scripture does it say that. But he twisted it to support his racist views.

Yes scripture can be twisted

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Thu 06/11/15 04:28 PM



Verses are taken out of context mainly to fit "their" agenda rather then God's intended agenda. People will always want to do what "they" want rather then specifically what "God" wants from us.


taken out of context... when people write parables, the only way to take it out of context is listening to the authors POV on it... everything else is just a guess, no one is write or wrong...


True to an extent. But Jesus was the only one that spoke in parables... and that would then lead down as the other thread is speaking of atm "context".


i thought it was god? but either way, there is no one person that can speak for god any better than anyone else in the world... thats why the bible cannot be taken out of context, because it means what it means to each individual... there never is a right or wrong, but many people have died because they think there is...