ournalist Glenn Greenwald, through whom document-leaker Edward Snowden previously rattled the entire National Security Agency, is now confirming Western intelligence networks strategize to place “trolls” on the Internet to undermine, discredit and destroy critics.

In an article posted on website Greenwald help create called the Intercept, Greenwald reports secret documents from the GCHQ – the United Kingdom’s version of the NSA – reveal “how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction.”

He cites documents from the “previously secret” Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group in the U.K., which describe injecting “all sorts of false material onto the Internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets” and to use “social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.”

“To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: ‘false flag operations’ (posting material to the Internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting ‘negative information’ on various forums.”

The document lists a “Disruption Operational Playbook” and subheadings titled “Infiltration Operation, Ruse Operation, Set Piece Operation, False Flag Operation, False Rescue Operation, Disruption Operation, Sting Operation.”

Get “Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism” at WND’s Superstore

Regarding how to “discredit a target,” the instructions include, “Set up a honey-trap, change their photos on social networking sites, write a blog purporting to be one of their victims, email/text their colleagues, neighbors, friends etc.”

Sam Rolley at the Personal Liberty blog wrote that his organization for years has been “warning readers that the well-connected and ruling elite, displeased by this newfound proletariat freedom, have been prolific in attempts to undermine and marginalize information provided by any media outlet unwilling to obey the same unspoken rules that govern the content choices of major media outlets.”

“Now, thanks to the efforts of National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden and journalist Glenn Greenwald, readers no longer have to take the word of ‘paranoid’ bloggers who relate tales of paid government trolls lurking in comment sections and other concentrated top-down efforts to muddy the information provided by alternative media,” Rolley said.

He warned that the “most disturbing confirmation provided in the newly publicized intelligence documents is that spy agencies in Western nations with free speech guarantees have been given carte blanche authority from political leadership to target private individuals and organizations deemed uncooperative with the will of the state with ruthless online reputation-destruction efforts.”

Greenwald said the discussion of many of the techniques “occurs in the context of using them in lieu of ‘traditional law enforcement’ against people suspected (but not charged or convicted) of ordinary crimes or, more broadly still, ‘hacktivism,’ meaning those who use online protest activity for political ends.”

Rolley said it takes “no stretch of the imagination – even for those who have resisted considering the possibility of malevolent intent on government’s part – to assume that the mission of organizations like the NSA and GCHQ is ultimately more about quelling citizen dissent than stopping citizen bloodshed at the hands of terrorists.”

“The mere existence of documents like those published this week,” Rolley said, “provides that the nefarious and long-suspected Internet activities of Western propagandists are not just plausible – they have very likely occurred in the comment sections and social media posts of articles like the one you are reading now.”

WND columnist Eric Rush highlighted the outrageous idea of government agents trying to destroy the reputations of critics.

“It is worth noting that in 2008, Cass Sunstein, an Obama adviser and the White House’s former head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs … wrote a paper proposing that the U.S. government engage teams of covert agents and independent, ideologically kindred surrogates to employ precisely the aforementioned methods to achieve their objectives,” Rush said.

Greenwald said the “point is that, far beyond hacktivists, these surveillance agencies have vested themselves with the power to deliberately ruin people’s reputations and disrupt their online political activity even though they’ve been charged with no crimes, and even though their actions have no conceivable connection to terrorism or even national security threats.”

Greenwald said the British organization, GCHQ, in response to his questions, said only that it does not comment on intelligence matters.

“Furthermore,” the agency said, “all of GCHQ’s work is carried out in accordance with a strict legal and policy framework which ensures that our activities are authorized, necessary and proportionate, and that there is rigorous oversight, including from the Secretary of State, the Interception and Intelligence Services Commissioners, and the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee.”

“Whatever else is true,” Greenwald wrote, “no government should be able to engage in these tactics: what justification is there for having government agencies target people – who have been charged with no crime – for reputation-destruction, infiltrate online political communities, and develop techniques for manipulating online discourse?”

WND previously has reported on leftist trolls operating online, including those with thousands of postings that would be unlikely to come from someone submitting comments during free time.

The report at the time said the trolls were performing a “disinformation” function typical of counter-intelligence efforts by intelligence agencies to confuse political enemies and refute or deflect opposing political views that are less susceptible to refutation by more traditional methods of debate and argumentation.

Typically, trolls operating on WND forums were defending Obama by posting specious and diversionary arguments with the goal of changing the subject and obscuring topics that could damage Obama, such as his birth records, life narrative, political history and policy preferences, including his current positions as president.

One was found to have posted nearly 4,800 comments over a two-year period. Another operated under different user names used various email addresses and nine different IP addresses to post 15,200 comments over 787 days on WND.com and FoxNews.com, as well as several smaller news websites, some of which had a local focus or interest.

The report confirmed many of the trolls banned from participating in WND forums appeared to have been operating on a professional level.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/govt-handbook-for-internet-trolls-uncovered/#VIuUvad61DohCIhP.99


i always wondered why you felt the need to go out of your way to attack me when i post anything about the government. everytime i post something about the government, here comes devildog. obviously you dont like my posts and topics, but yet you always feel the need to come and try to discredit me, why is that? instead of just moving on to the next topic, you always seem to come into my threads and throw your 2 cents in. i told you many times already, if you dont like what i post, theres noone putting a gun to your head and making you read them or post in them. but yet everytime you still come in and try to discredit me no matter what im saying.

that's right.. I work for the Government...but on paper,I don't exist. and we know who you are., your on the list.. you can run.. but you can't hide..Lol

NaturalNews and BeforeItsNews!

New Snowden Doc Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations'
from the and-not-just-terrorists dept
A few weeks ago, Glenn Greenwald, while working with NBC News, revealed some details of a GCHQ presentation concerning how the surveillance organization had a "dirty tricks" group known as JTRIG -- the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group. Now, over at The Intercept, he's revealed the entire presentation and highlighted more details about how JTRIG would seek to infiltrate different groups online and destroy people's reputations -- going way, way, way beyond just targeting terrorist groups and threats to national security.

Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable. To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: “false flag operations” (posting material to the internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting “negative information” on various forums.

For years, people have said that the purpose of groups like the NSA and GCHQ were merely "signals intelligence," which were about understanding and decoding signals, not about taking any sort of offensive standpoint. However, as the Snowden docs have repeatedly revealed, the mandate of these organizations has long been much more offensively based, and they seem to have little problem with using questionable tactics to destroy people's lives. As Greenwald notes, is this really a power you trust a totally secretive government agency with almost no real oversight to use without it being abused?

There's a lot more in Greenwald's writeup, which you should read, but just a few of the key slides are worth reading to get a sense of what's going on here. This isn't just about infiltrating terrorist organizations. They seem to be using these kinds of techniques on just about anyone they dislike, which harkens back to the Hoover-era FBI infiltrating and seeking to discredit anti-war groups. It also raises very serious questions about whether these efforts are being used to stifle political expression.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml

whats funny conrad is, if i post something from wikipedia you pop in with your

Conrad_73: wikipedia

and then the next day you post something from wikipedia as if somehow your wikipedia on your computer is legit but mine isnt.

you post stuff all the time from links that you have no idea if are credible or not.

Hey...while scrounging around in the Serv.net emotioncon images I found a little tomato guy just for you >>>

Not that U R angry all the time - or ever really but thought you could put him to use if you wanna!

OK...about those 'investment bankers'& your suicide connection issue; could it be that due to the line of work and that they are in and investing other peoples $$$ leaves them with many things to worry about!
The pressure just isn't for the 'faint of heart' and as with any job; you've got the boss on your butt - the client on your arse - your family/home life...toss in some dope/drugs and then you really have a mental cocktail that will just expedite that 'NEED TO SUCCEED' perhaps several times

And Tomato - every time the Dow goes from Bull to Bust there are going to be drastic winners & losers - you know this!



Now you have a glimmer of why the 'BUSH BOYS' Neal & Georgie baled out of the Savings & Loan when they did and left their companions to take the fall & serve time in the penitentiary for high crimes & misdemeanors {cira 1980's}

There's always money to be made --- but the ill gotten gains and temptation to go astray...
Oh, LA-LA Snags many a wholesome human!

well,BeforeitsNews had the Astronauts suffocated on the International Space-Station by a Heliumleak!

Got fooled by an ONION-Newscast!

that Banker probably thought he could fly!

aha thanks for the tomato

i dont know its not only bankers. scientists and bankers and like i said alot of them died under "mysterious" circumstances. some were murdered some hit by cars some plane crash. maybe its nothing but coincidence, very well could be. i just dont see all these people killing themselves and i think it should be explored more with an open mind. and i heard something recently about a doctor who was one of the brightest minds in the world when it came to cancer research, was shot and killed and noone knows who did it or why. call me crazy but i think theres more to this.

well,I wasn't the one posting Stuff from those two Sites!

One less monster on earth, a few thousand to go.

The first thing that came to mind after reading your intro post was "are you sure he wasn't pushed?" There are a bunch of overly long comments so I will read them now.

Drugged & then thrown... is more likely. That would make the toxicology report look good... & convince MOST people

One banker? Well, it's a start.

Actually, it's common. Several bankers have "bailed out" so to speak.

Google it

Just my take...

* The one thing I DON'T suspect, is that these bankers "know something we don't, and are bailing out."

It's pretty clear that everything in the upper reaches of the financial world, is rigged to make rich people in power richer, whether the economy tanks for the rest of us or not.

* People who do get involved in that life, tend to be under a lot of stress, since it is so cutthroat. I would expect a higher incidence of stress-related deaths.

* Getting out after making a killing sounds like sanity to me, not an indication of a plot.

* Always remember that it is the nature of News Reporting, to follow fads. A surge in reports about almost anything, often only means that after ONE major report about it seemed to cause ratings for news shows to rise, second and third-level reporters looking for promotions, all rush to copy the reports, and seek out every remotely similar incident. Often, this results in entirely innocent occurrences, being misrepresented as suspicious.

Classic example: "Bermuda Triangle Disappearances." Once that story got going, every time some yokel was late returning his rental boat or plane, they got added to the list of "disappearances." They never got removed, even after they showed up drunk the next day.

OP, Bankers, Scientist, CEOs, politicians are no different than you and I. We all have the same needs and are driven by the same thing: self interest. The needs I am referring to are discussed in Abraham Maslow's: Hierarchy of Needs. One of the most important need I believe is "Love and Belonging." Because "Love and Belonging" encompasses how society views and treats you. If you are treated like garbage by society, how can basic needs like food, water, shelter, and sex be met? The problem with people is that we are dangerously socially engineered to the point were we have isolated ourselves from one another. We have isolated each other based upon what society deems fit and unfit. And unfortunately society is controlled by the "capitalist elite." The "capitalist elite" wants the masses to look a certain way; behave a certain way, talk a certain way; because they want to control you. Marx pointed out, each world power starts out by people undifferentiated. As time goes by, people become differentiated and alienated. This is an affect of deregulated capitalism. Bankers and scientist are no different than street level drug dealers. Their job is to make profits for their masters.

Is it possible that their employer or corrupt politicians may have had them murdered. But then again, anything is possible within the realm of possibility.

Out Of all of the employers you mentioned, JP Morgan sticks out the most in my mind. I live in the not-so-pleasant section of NYC. There is a not-for-profit organization that houses individuals who are clinically diagnosed with AIDS called Housing Works. On the front of building, there is a plaque on the building that reads "Jp morgan." JP morgan jr inherited his fathers fortune, became chairman of U.S. Steels, and used his inheritance and profits to support eugenics. As of today, the eugenics movement is still in effect. It is in the form of societal eugenics.


Like many multinational employers JP Morgan has employees that serve on the board of many not-for-profit organizations. Not-for-profit organizations serve three purposes for the capitalist elite : hide money by making donations, political influence by creating laws that benefit them, and keep people disenfranchised.

JP Morgan has employees on the board for another not-for-profit organization called Enterprise Community Partners (ECP). Not-for-profit organizations by law are required to have board members. ECP goal is one thing: defund public housing. So that instead of federal grants going towards housing for the most neediest people (disabled, children, elderly, veterans), the federal grant will go into the hands of "bank-controlled" and "capitalist elite" influenced not-for-profit organizations; who will then take that federal money: and give each other bonuses.

Also many of these bankers launder money and create LLCs with attorneys to hide their illegal activities. How do you think these corner stores in the ghetto operate?

I know I am going off on a tangent
but you should look at the world the way a politician or a capitalist elite would view the world. Their objective is to control people and if nobody concedes or bend to their will, they will either go crazy or die early.

I knew one day, it would come to this.

Rather my jest on these incidents: just from my brief interlude into the 'GET RICH' humans that I came in contact with during my career path in the Crude Oil Days late 70's - mid 80's; when everyone in KS or OK was going out and obtaining a drill rig and punching holes in the earth to get some crude oil!
I saw people that were once great dairy farmers become ignorant over night rich folk with kids so hopped up on drugs that their parents were oblivious to the constant nose drips and white powder on their kids upper lips and nostrils!!!
Needless to say; 90% lost their a$$es, they're family farms - had nothing to fall back on and they're kids were just floundering/druggies with emotional problems an no problem solving skills!

High pressure jobs and a fast life style and those upper echelon that they associate with move at such a different level that many a young person fresh out of college just never have a chance to get slowly acclimated to the dangers --- they just get sucked in to quickly! Granted there may be an increase {as I stated due to the way the DOW swings} but if this was on a steady increase as you suspect don't you think some 'Dr. Freud' wanna-be wouldn't be all over it to make a name for himself?

I mean just think about the thesis - books that he{she} could write about that conspiracy theory?

Sudden deaths is one of the major signs right before the apocalypse

did you know there is only ONE cause of death?

,,,a heart that has stopped,,,,,,,,