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Topic: Not mutually exclusive
msharmony's photo
Mon 03/02/15 07:56 PM
did you know?

you can be black and be a bigot and still like SOME white people and even love SOME white people

,,,having bigoted values and having some exceptions (that you like or support or even love) in those groups you are bigoted against are not MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE


did you know?

you can be active in women's rights without being against men's rights or active in the rights of blacks without being against the rights of whites?


,support one group AND another group that is different are not mutually exclusive,,,,

what other things do people tend to believe are mutually exclusive,, but aren't?


Dodo_David's photo
Mon 03/02/15 08:15 PM

did you know?

you can be black and be a bigot and still like SOME white people and even love SOME white people

,,,having bigoted values and having some exceptions (that you like or support or even love) in those groups you are bigoted against are not MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE


did you know?

you can be active in women's rights without being against men's rights or active in the rights of blacks without being against the rights of whites?


,support one group AND another group that is different are not mutually exclusive,,,,

what other things do people tend to believe are mutually exclusive,, but aren't?




And you said all of this because why?

germanchoclate1981's photo
Mon 03/02/15 08:17 PM
Matrimony. I was faithful...
I don't get what you mean by mutually exclusive in regards to your post. Do you mean prejudiced or biased? They both seem to fit better than exclusive and make more sense.

andrewzooms's photo
Mon 03/02/15 08:20 PM
At least she used the world bigot instead of racist.

2469nascar's photo
Mon 03/02/15 08:28 PM

At least she used the world bigot instead of racist.
ya cuz only white famers and rednicks are racist.
butt i do get what she is saying. as usually she has a good point.

germanchoclate1981's photo
Tue 03/03/15 12:27 AM
Technicially, I'm a redneck. I'm also sexist because I only date women. I won't change my stance on that one and I won't apologize.
I love all people that are peaceful honest and not stupid, so I have several prejudices. That being said, I don't love stupid people or things that create and glorify stupidity. The same goes for dishonest and (shocker) violent people. Yes I am aware of my previous occupation, and my trigger finger is and always was connected to my brain where my conscious reigns supreme.
I don't find myself liking or loving the people or actions that I despise. The only exception would be jackass cky2k team Sanchez and that's just funny. Comedy, in its many forms can have elements of stupidity but there is also quite a bit of planning and guts it takes to do some of the stunts they did.
I think everybody likes fireworks to some extent (I did enjoy blowing THINGS up) but when you light a fuse you know will end a human life that really really changes things.

bhulce's photo
Wed 03/04/15 04:38 PM
Humans are paradoxical

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/04/15 05:08 PM


did you know?

you can be black and be a bigot and still like SOME white people and even love SOME white people

,,,having bigoted values and having some exceptions (that you like or support or even love) in those groups you are bigoted against are not MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE


did you know?

you can be active in women's rights without being against men's rights or active in the rights of blacks without being against the rights of whites?


,support one group AND another group that is different are not mutually exclusive,,,,

what other things do people tend to believe are mutually exclusive,, but aren't?




And you said all of this because why?



because I believe its an interesting topic, I often read and here people who use their 'alliance' or 'support' of individuals within a group as proof that they don't hold bigotry against that group, I call it grey racism,, the racism that isn't so black and white,, excuse the pun

but that one thing lead me to wonder what other things that other people encounter where it seems to be a belief that two things cant happen concurrently


msharmony's photo
Wed 03/04/15 05:10 PM

Matrimony. I was faithful...
I don't get what you mean by mutually exclusive in regards to your post. Do you mean prejudiced or biased? They both seem to fit better than exclusive and make more sense.


when I refer to mutually exclusive, I am referring to the concept that one thing makes another thing not possible

like,,,jumping in a pool and drying off,, they are two mutually exclusive activities because you cant be doing them both at the same time

my example was some believe you cant support certain INDIVIDUALS and be bigoted towards the group they are a part of at the same time

I wondered what else is falsely considered mutually exclusive behaviors...

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/04/15 05:13 PM

At least she used the world bigot instead of racist.


because its exactly what I meant

,,,,,there are women who hate men, yet they have 'some' men friends and relatives they love and they can find the 'exceptions' that are worthy of their support and praise,,,,(and usually do a wonderful job of cosigning the bigotry in question due to how exceptional and above the fold they consider themselves)

..there are men who hate women, yet they have 'some' women friends and relatives they love and they can find the 'exceptions' that are worthy of their support and praise,,,,and usually do a wonderful job of cosigning the bigotry in question due to how exceptional and above the fold they consider themselves)

the same can be said about sexual preference or nationality or religion,,,,

so that's why I gave that example,,,,but the category doesn't have to have anything to do with bigotry

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/04/15 05:14 PM

Humans are paradoxical


great word

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/04/15 05:15 PM


did you know?

you can be black and be a bigot and still like SOME white people and even love SOME white people

,,,having bigoted values and having some exceptions (that you like or support or even love) in those groups you are bigoted against are not MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE


did you know?

you can be active in women's rights without being against men's rights or active in the rights of blacks without being against the rights of whites?


,support one group AND another group that is different are not mutually exclusive,,,,

what other things do people tend to believe are mutually exclusive,, but aren't?


Yet again you're talking about colour? Why doesn't this surprise me? Only topic of conversation you have I think? Get over yourself eh and live and let live? It's people like yourself that keep issues like this from ever going away!


once again, seeing only what you want to see,,,, I post on dozens of topics,, I stand out when I mention race, maybe because my race stands out in this crowd?

in any case, there is no need to contribute if you don't have an example of the 'non mutually exclusive' that I asked about,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 03/04/15 06:08 PM
my example was some believe you cant support certain INDIVIDUALS and be bigoted towards the group they are a part of at the same time


That would explain why white racist Democrats voted for Obama. :tongue:

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/04/15 06:12 PM

my example was some believe you cant support certain INDIVIDUALS and be bigoted towards the group they are a part of at the same time


That would explain why white racist Democrats voted for Obama. :tongue:


very true, another great example

and black racists marry white women, and white racists marry black women('some' is implied)...etc

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 03/04/15 06:37 PM


my example was some believe you cant support certain INDIVIDUALS and be bigoted towards the group they are a part of at the same time


That would explain why white racist Democrats voted for Obama. :tongue:


very true, another great example

and black racists marry white women, and white racists marry black women('some' is implied)...etc


Of course, there is that pesky little fact that a party is innocent of racism until proven guilty. :tongue:

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/04/15 07:53 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 03/04/15 07:54 PM



my example was some believe you cant support certain INDIVIDUALS and be bigoted towards the group they are a part of at the same time


That would explain why white racist Democrats voted for Obama. :tongue:


very true, another great example

and black racists marry white women, and white racists marry black women('some' is implied)...etc


Of course, there is that pesky little fact that a party is innocent of racism until proven guilty. :tongue:


lucky for racist racism is so hard to 'prove' on an individual level, because we dont see sheets and burning crosses anymore

now there are suits and 'discretion' that is hard to pin down


but systemic racial bias is much easier :tongue:

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 03/04/15 08:33 PM
lucky for racist racism is so hard to 'prove' on an individual level, because we dont see sheets and burning crosses anymore


huh I didn't know that black racists used to wear sheets and burn crosses. :tongue:

Anyway, a lack of sheets and burning crosses definitely helps the white racists in the Democratic Party go undetected. laugh

savlove22's photo
Wed 03/04/15 09:00 PM
You are correct. Most people are too mentally lazy to think the issue through as well as you have. Most people want to lump generalizations together. Mental flexibility and mental deenergy are necessary to understand your thinking which operates much like set theory and logic operates. My guess is that you studied logic in college.

no photo
Thu 03/05/15 03:35 AM



did you know?

you can be black and be a bigot and still like SOME white people and even love SOME white people

,,,having bigoted values and having some exceptions (that you like or support or even love) in those groups you are bigoted against are not MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE


did you know?

you can be active in women's rights without being against men's rights or active in the rights of blacks without being against the rights of whites?


,support one group AND another group that is different are not mutually exclusive,,,,

what other things do people tend to believe are mutually exclusive,, but aren't?


Yet again you're talking about colour? Why doesn't this surprise me? Only topic of conversation you have I think? Get over yourself eh and live and let live? It's people like yourself that keep issues like this from ever going away!


once again, seeing only what you want to see,,,, I post on dozens of topics,, I stand out when I mention race, maybe because my race stands out in this crowd?

in any case, there is no need to contribute if you don't have an example of the 'non mutually exclusive' that I asked about,,,


No, your race really does not stick out in a crowd..at all. But you have a tendency of highlighting it whenever possible.

msharmony's photo
Thu 03/05/15 06:09 PM




did you know?

you can be black and be a bigot and still like SOME white people and even love SOME white people

,,,having bigoted values and having some exceptions (that you like or support or even love) in those groups you are bigoted against are not MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE


did you know?

you can be active in women's rights without being against men's rights or active in the rights of blacks without being against the rights of whites?


,support one group AND another group that is different are not mutually exclusive,,,,

what other things do people tend to believe are mutually exclusive,, but aren't?


Yet again you're talking about colour? Why doesn't this surprise me? Only topic of conversation you have I think? Get over yourself eh and live and let live? It's people like yourself that keep issues like this from ever going away!


once again, seeing only what you want to see,,,, I post on dozens of topics,, I stand out when I mention race, maybe because my race stands out in this crowd?

in any case, there is no need to contribute if you don't have an example of the 'non mutually exclusive' that I asked about,,,


No, your race really does not stick out in a crowd..at all. But you have a tendency of highlighting it whenever possible.



my race sticks out here, if you have eyes and see pictures,,,,lol

but honestly,
I don't really need to highlight it,, its there for everyone to see.

And obviously quite well cause for the life of me it seems a go to whenever I have an opinion about someone black and someone wants to 'disagree' with it



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