i was just thinking, could isis be a collective between US and British (maybe Israel as well) agendas to separate and divide muslim peoples to start wars between their nations? it seems to make sense, being obarry supplied them weapons in Syria, just before they(isis) formed and went into Iraq and got more tech from what was left over from the war..
i was reading an article about Jordans response to the burning of their pilot, and they are really pissed and vowed revenge by executing several Iraqi POW's. (http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-supporters-post-photos-purportedly-showing-jordanian-170209043.html)

it seems we are getting some wool in our eye's here...

how many muslim countries are involved now?

7-8 that i know of know...

They (ISIS) have become a very wealthy group...there have been claims they're being funded by wealthy Arabs in the middle east....but it could be Israel itself & the U.S to continue with the chaos on earth

very quickly, too... the wealthy Arabs not involved would be Kuwait and Saudi Arabia... i think the wealth is coming from US and Brits...

So, you guys are saying, this is something like the joint French/English secret service personal that dressed themselves like Jewish settlers then attacked the Port Said authority to justify more control over the Suez Canal?

(Like Over 60 Years Ago)

If you think that Israel would skip Palestine to attack anywhere else on earth besides Mecca I think you're mistaken.
Every terrorist group in the middle east is founded by wealthy Arabs in the middle east, you're not breaking any headlines there.
Obama did not create, help, or supply Isis, he won't even call them Isis. They took what was left in Iraq from the Iraqi military who fled, again despite being trained and equipped just as the Russians did before us. In case you forgot, in the 1980's Iraq and Iran started a war. That war led to instabilities in borders between the two and much more unrest with their neighbors. Soon after daddy dubyah made a show of force from Kuwait. Dubyah tried his damnedest to finish what daddy started and get Iraq's oil. No cigar. Sure Saddam is dead, I'm pretty sure you heard that in the news. This is what created the power vacuum that allowed isis to form. though I don't think he was one of humanity's finest, he kept stability in the middle east along with our allies Israel Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

It was on Obama's orders that binladen was taken. Not Bush. Bush couldn't find a grain of sand in tdesert he was too busy deserting the air force national guard.
ISIS was killing innocent men women and children from a minority group ofi Iraqis when we took our stand against them. We supplied munitions via airstrikes for Iraq driving them back into Syria where they took over Syrian military bases.

Don't believe everything you read, consider the source. If the source is yahoo, its pretty much crap that whoever was willing to give them money asked them to post. That's what yahoo does.

Why the hell would we fund any organization that beheads our journalists and contractors?

Meanwhile, back in this universe ...

think what you want, obarry is not the messiah you think he is...

No Moe, Romeo, you're both good guys but a bit misinformed. You don't know the recent history that has led up to the current events and the media storm. Power vacuums are undeniable, and whatever is close by will be sucked in.
The middle east is very different from the rest of the world. The countries do not end at their borders. The militaries haven't fought a conventional war since the Iran Iraq war. That's not how it works over there and the way the rest of the world trains their military has changed. That's all I'm gonna say on that.
If you have a television within 5 miles of you you can agree with that. What you don't get from headlines borrowed from real news channels and professional journalists is just how different our societies are from theirs. Imagine if tomorrow it was illegal to be protestant in 10 of our 50 States and it was punishable by death. What would protestants do? Leave their homes and lives? Divorce and break up families? Stay and fight? How would they leave? Where would they go and would that place be any safer? That's pretty much how it is there.

think about who started what...

So, it's like a modern Spanish Inquisition.

The only difference is instead of a hard-line view of Christianity, that was well apostasized. We have a hard-line view of Islam, that likewise, has been apostasized.

Don't believe everything you read, consider the source. If the source is yahoo, its pretty much crap that whoever was willing to give them money asked them to post. That's what yahoo does.


think what you want, obarry is not the messiah you think he is...

I believe what is believable. I never said Obama was the messiah. If you haven't been in the middle east or northern Africa you don't understand they way they live, govern, worship. I have spent some time over there and several places in Europe and I can tell you it's not just the weather that's different. I can't tell you a damn thing about bike gangs and I wouldn't speculate. I know if you crash a motorcycle it's highly unlikely that a seatbelt or airbag will save your life.
It's not just Iraq and Syria that are the battleground. Militaries are not the majority of combatants. Land is not what the fighting is over. This isn't WWII or Vietnam. It's not Grenada, Cuba or Bosnia.
It's not the situation in Iraq or Syria. It's the middle east. At least understand it before you drop blame on your President, he didn't start the wars, he ended them. To say that the us and brits could be funding those a holes is more ignorant and ridiculous than anything I've ever heard.

think what you want, obarry is not the messiah you think he is...

I believe what is believable. I never said Obama was the messiah. If you haven't been in the middle east or northern Africa you don't understand they way they live, govern, worship. I have spent some time over there and several places in Europe and I can tell you it's not just the weather that's different. I can't tell you a damn thing about bike gangs and I wouldn't speculate. I know if you crash a motorcycle it's highly unlikely that a seatbelt or airbag will save your life.
It's not just Iraq and Syria that are the battleground. Militaries are not the majority of combatants. Land is not what the fighting is over. This isn't WWII or Vietnam. It's not Grenada, Cuba or Bosnia.
It's not the situation in Iraq or Syria. It's the middle east. At least understand it before you drop blame on your President, he didn't start the wars, he ended them. To say that the us and brits could be funding those a holes is more ignorant and ridiculous than anything I've ever heard.



what war did obarry end? can you answer me that?

That goes back a few thousand years there buddy. The Torah documents unrest in the middle east before the Koran came to the prophet Mohammed. There were wars going on from then through the crusades and on to current day.

the wars in the middle east have been raging for centuries and from the crusades to today it has been proven that NO outside influence has made a difference. it's their wars and we should have never gotten involved, yet our striving for democracy once again sucked us into a losing situation. just saying,,,

they can't control things without an enemy...there always has to be something to fear

it's about money, control and power, striving for democracy is just a smokescreen...

Essentially, Europe 500 years ago.

I believe what is believable. I never said Obama was the messiah. If you haven't been in the middle east or northern Africa you don't understand they way they live, govern, worship. I have spent some time over there and several places in Europe and I can tell you it's not just the weather that's different. I can't tell you a damn thing about bike gangs and I wouldn't speculate. I know if you crash a motorcycle it's highly unlikely that a seatbelt or airbag will save your life.
It's not just Iraq and Syria that are the battleground. Militaries are not the majority of combatants. Land is not what the fighting is over. This isn't WWII or Vietnam. It's not Grenada, Cuba or Bosnia.
It's not the situation in Iraq or Syria. It's the middle east. At least understand it before you drop blame on your President, he didn't start the wars, he ended them. To say that the us and brits could be funding those a holes is more ignorant and ridiculous than anything I've ever heard.



what war did obarry end? can you answer me that?

Yes I can. The war in Iraq technicially lasted 28 days but we spent much more time fighting terrorist groups in Iraq. We are no longer engaged in a ground war in Iraq or Afghanistan.
So that would be two. Two wars that were not waged by Obama, both started shortly following 9/11/01 when Bush was in office.

what war did obarry end? can you answer me that?

Yes I can. The war in Iraq technicially lasted 28 days but we spent much more time fighting terrorist groups in Iraq. We are no longer engaged in a ground war in Iraq or Afghanistan.
So that would be two. Two wars that were not waged by Obama, both started shortly following 9/11/01 when Bush was in office.


your wrong on both accounts... maybe before you start declaring how someone else is uniformed, you should look at some accurate reports for yourself... there are still soldiers dying in Afghanistan, no matter what you seem to think, and the Iraqi war war ended in a timeline prepared by bushes admin, obarry just followed that scheduling and then took credit...

do some research on how many "actions" in different countries we are now involved in, in might surprise you just how many people are dying by drones in Africa alone...

obarry ended nothing, only difference between him and bush is that we use more drones now, not much else...