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Lazy b*****ds, the UK actual employment figures are 26%! Go get a f*****g job, or if any of you lot are qualified Plumbers, get in contact with me and I'LL get you out working with me, ok?   
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Lazy b*****ds, the UK actual employment figures are 26%! Go get a f*****g job, or if any of you lot are qualified Plumbers, get in contact with me and I'LL get you out working with me, ok? You are absolutely right. Good jobs are very hard to find. In part because we ( as a country) outsource entire U.S. industries overseas. Just take a look at the textile industry that used to rule the south.. and that is just one example.. manufacturing?.. all done in Asia...Pick up the phone and call your credit card company.. some guy in New Delhi is on the line. Next in line is the unions.. The had a very important place in history.. they were needed. But what did they do?... they priced themselves right out of jobs. I bring in container into the U.S. all the time.. but not into Labor ruled ports. I bypass them. My customers (you folks) do not want the extra costs that would then need to be added to the products you buy. All the while our Government saying "don't worry about it.. we have NFTA.. Yeh well. take a look at ANY steamship container vessel LEAVING the U.S. and destine for Asia... 90% of the containers on board are empty... being sent back so they can be put back into rotation. The other 10% have broken or old computers in them.. garbage.. sent to a foreign land to be burned.. pollution the air of countries that don't care about that kind of stuff Thanks Uncle Sammy!! |
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Lucky for the U.S & some other countries you get welfare etc. Just makes people more lazy in a way.
Over here where im from in �frica there is no such thing....its either you look after yourself or you're dead. As simple as that 
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Lucky for the U.S & some other countries you get welfare etc. Just makes people more lazy in a way. Over here where im from in �frica there is no such thing....its either you look after yourself or you're dead. As simple as that I'm glad we don't aspire to such a standard. |
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Lucky for the U.S & some other countries you get welfare etc. Just makes people more lazy in a way. Over here where im from in �frica there is no such thing....its either you look after yourself or you're dead. As simple as that I'm glad we don't aspire to such a standard. yeah but over here its cool hustlin each day baby.... |
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Lazy b*****ds, the UK actual employment figures are 26%! Go get a f*****g job, or if any of you lot are qualified Plumbers, get in contact with me and I'LL get you out working with me, ok? You are absolutely right. Good jobs are very hard to find. In part because we ( as a country) outsource entire U.S. industries overseas. Just take a look at the textile industry that used to rule the south.. and that is just one example.. manufacturing?.. all done in Asia...Pick up the phone and call your credit card company.. some guy in New Delhi is on the line. Next in line is the unions.. The had a very important place in history.. they were needed. But what did they do?... they priced themselves right out of jobs. I bring in container into the U.S. all the time.. but not into Labor ruled ports. I bypass them. My customers (you folks) do not want the extra costs that would then need to be added to the products you buy. All the while our Government saying "don't worry about it.. we have NFTA.. Yeh well. take a look at ANY steamship container vessel LEAVING the U.S. and destine for Asia... 90% of the containers on board are empty... being sent back so they can be put back into rotation. The other 10% have broken or old computers in them.. garbage.. sent to a foreign land to be burned.. pollution the air of countries that don't care about that kind of stuff Thanks Uncle Sammy!! ...the manufacturing company that I worked at outsourced to China...laid off over 400 employes...I was one of the " lucky" ones who kept my job...the product is made for pennies over there and the price of it went up in the stores...I spent 20 years there training for a position only for it to be outsourced as well...I could have stayed there with no possibility to move up but chose to quit...went from 40,000 a year down to 12,000 to 14,000...the average earnings for most jobs here..took me ten years but I found a decent job now...now all ya hear is manufacturing jobs can't afford American wages so they have no choice..lol...whatever..
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Lazy b*****ds, the UK actual employment figures are 26%! Go get a f*****g job, or if any of you lot are qualified Plumbers, get in contact with me and I'LL get you out working with me, ok? You are absolutely right. Good jobs are very hard to find. In part because we ( as a country) outsource entire U.S. industries overseas. Just take a look at the textile industry that used to rule the south.. and that is just one example.. manufacturing?.. all done in Asia...Pick up the phone and call your credit card company.. some guy in New Delhi is on the line. Next in line is the unions.. The had a very important place in history.. they were needed. But what did they do?... they priced themselves right out of jobs. I bring in container into the U.S. all the time.. but not into Labor ruled ports. I bypass them. My customers (you folks) do not want the extra costs that would then need to be added to the products you buy. All the while our Government saying "don't worry about it.. we have NFTA.. Yeh well. take a look at ANY steamship container vessel LEAVING the U.S. and destine for Asia... 90% of the containers on board are empty... being sent back so they can be put back into rotation. The other 10% have broken or old computers in them.. garbage.. sent to a foreign land to be burned.. pollution the air of countries that don't care about that kind of stuff Thanks Uncle Sammy!! ...the manufacturing company that I worked at outsourced to China...laid off over 400 employes...I was one of the " lucky" ones who kept my job...the product is made for pennies over there and the price of it went up in the stores...I spent 20 years there training for a position only for it to be outsourced as well...I could have stayed there with no possibility to move up but chose to quit...went from 40,000 a year down to 12,000 to 14,000...the average earnings for most jobs here..took me ten years but I found a decent job now...now all ya hear is manufacturing jobs can't afford American wages so they have no choice..lol...whatever.. And your story got played out millions of times over.I am glad you landed on your feet. good for you :) Well we all know where the jobs went and why. But who is to blame, the Government surely ( in part). but also everyone of us. everyone of us who shop at Wal- Mart, Target, Dollar store, Home Depot and all the rest of those big box retailers. ( and we all do it).. why.. because we want those cheap prices, right? lets call it the way it really is. In doing that "we" drove all of those small companies out of business.. we did it. adding big time to the unemployment. All of the big box stores product is made overseas. And you know what, they dictate the price to the manufacture. they tell the manufacture what the price point needs to be at.. because their customers (us) are demanding those prices... it all rolls down hill. I ship to all of those big box guys.. and they TELL me what the price is going to be.. all I can say is yes or no.. if I can't make it at that price.. the next guy can. and only one continent can make it at those prices... Asia.. those cheap prices that we demand have come with a big price tag to our country. |
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sure glad I am out of that Rat-Race!
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Edited by
SpicyExcel
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Fri 01/23/15 06:56 AM
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Lazy b*****ds, the UK actual employment figures are 26%! Go get a f*****g job, or if any of you lot are qualified Plumbers, get in contact with me and I'LL get you out working with me, ok? You are absolutely right. Good jobs are very hard to find. In part because we ( as a country) outsource entire U.S. industries overseas. Just take a look at the textile industry that used to rule the south.. and that is just one example.. manufacturing?.. all done in Asia...Pick up the phone and call your credit card company.. some guy in New Delhi is on the line. Next in line is the unions.. The had a very important place in history.. they were needed. But what did they do?... they priced themselves right out of jobs. I bring in container into the U.S. all the time.. but not into Labor ruled ports. I bypass them. My customers (you folks) do not want the extra costs that would then need to be added to the products you buy. All the while our Government saying "don't worry about it.. we have NFTA.. Yeh well. take a look at ANY steamship container vessel LEAVING the U.S. and destine for Asia... 90% of the containers on board are empty... being sent back so they can be put back into rotation. The other 10% have broken or old computers in them.. garbage.. sent to a foreign land to be burned.. pollution the air of countries that don't care about that kind of stuff Thanks Uncle Sammy!! You made some great points "Devildog", although the unions and a lot of people doing the labour work and putting their lives at risk, seen management receiving more than a fair salary. The point is niether job can exist if the other does not do there work and you are seeing this now within the job market. Government and big businesses have programmed people to believe those types of professional jobs are worth more than what the labour force is worth. The problem is, the labour force suffers the majority of medical injurys and health related jobs injuries. Many health related problems are not ever recognized by insurance companies due to the original occurance and the date of discovery of the medical problem. They say the connecting link is missing or the evidence is not great enough to make a conclusion in their relationship. The rest of the world believes everything in developed countries is better. Msharmony made a great point also about; do or survive. Yes we have social programs to assist individuals when struggling financially. Yes there are many that do take advantage of those programs and is an attractive thought to other countries. Our laws have greater goverence over the population and businesses to help eliminate some health and safety risks. Many other countries do not have these laws. This is a big factor why many investors' look at foreign markets for development. The profits are larger for them and the same or smaller return for the common peoples investments. Global population is an issue of debate, but whether it increases or decreases these problems' will still exist. Technology is advancing faster then the aging population is able to keep up with. Many people were brought-up seeing the faults' in society and where life generally leads for the vast majority of people. Working as the common labour force. Education is a business today and evident with the number of jobs available to the number of people with an post secondary education. It take two people to work, raise a family, and invest for the future. This is another problem. Looking into history a few centuries before the industrial revolution, today's society can find the developement of the problems the world has today. I am only expressing an opinion, but if we look at wealth back then and its development into today and tomorrow, we can discover pieces to the puzzel. Yes wealth changes through years, but so did laws and laws created larger organizations. I agree laws are required to better society and govern. Laws were created with good intentions - although we know - anything that is created for good also has bad parts that arise out of its development. The world needs to create one currency to create market stability. To create a constant inflation rate, employment rate, laws, etc. This type of development is years in the future, since the division of people is still to great on many different levels of governce of society. The wealthy people will not want to give up the control over the majority of the population. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 01/23/15 07:02 AM
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The tax rate, regulations and restrictions (being dictated by big corp lobbyists to those in congress making them), the economy (mainly manipulated by the FED and the private banking cartel), their QE policies robbing the taxpayer to prop up those corps and banks sitting on the money and not releasing it into the economy due to those regs and qualifications, and the list goes on! Until congress does its job, honors their oaths, and restores constitutional liberty back to the people, actually allows a free market to dictate prices without manipulation by the FED/bankers/corps and their lobbyists, we will have an economy that only favors the rich. Corporate welfare and bailouts is merely an incentive to corporations and manufacturers to create scarcity to qualify for those bailouts. It's not all about lazy, or all about any one thing in particular, it's about manipulation, power and greed . Politicians and Governments favor the hand that feeds them. What the people don't realize is that THAT hand can be cut off by the consumer. However, with a 24 hour corporate sponsored media bombardment, the distractions and propaganda instilling fear to get people to give up their power and liberties for a false sense of security, the peoples addiction to those distractions, the influence it has on the voting public to re-elect those creating the problems, misdirecting the blame, and dividing us against ourselves, nothing much is ever going to change. That's a long winded diatribe, and only my personal opinion, but it didn't happen over night and isn't going to change any faster or without the public facing the facts to begin with..... like any addiction, you have to admit the problem before you can fix it |
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The tax rate, regulations and restrictions (being dictated by big corp lobbyists to those in congress making them), the economy (mainly manipulated by the FED and the private banking cartel), their QE policies robbing the taxpayer to prop up those corps and banks sitting on the money and not releasing it into the economy due to those regs and qualifications, and the list goes on! Until congress does its job, honors their oaths, and restores constitutional liberty back to the people, actually allows a free market to dictate prices without manipulation by the FED/bankers/corps and their lobbyists, we will have an economy that only favors the rich. Corporate welfare and bailouts is merely an incentive to corporations and manufacturers to create scarcity to qualify for those bailouts. It's not all about lazy, or all about any one thing in particular, it's about manipulation, power and greed . Politicians and Governments favor the hand that feeds them. What the people don't realize is that THAT hand can be cut off by the consumer. However, with a 24 hour corporate sponsored media bombardment, the distractions and propaganda instilling fear to get people to give up their power and liberties for a false sense of security, the peoples addiction to those distractions, the influence it has on the voting public to re-elect those creating the problems, misdirecting the blame, and dividing us against ourselves, nothing much is ever going to change. That's a long winded diatribe, and only my personal opinion, but it didn't happen over night and isn't going to change any faster or without the public facing the facts to begin with..... like any addiction, you have to admit the problem before you can fix it Your correct, but here's a great example of control over the population and professional staffing. I need to see a surgen to have surgery. I cannot go back to work until I receive medical release. The systems know I am in the midst of a civil case. This civil case was caused by big business, government and professional employees. My income will run out for medical benefits in a month or so. Then use may investments and savings to live. I will loss on my investments and my retirement plan. I can get assistance if I sign a waver about the civil proceedings and the government receives there money back. Therefore everything I own, earned, bought, etc. goes back to the government and big business. The point is I want to have my surgery now to return to work, but I am being made to wait by the medical society, government and big businesses. So they can all profit of my past earnings' which I have already paid taxes on. Its corruption at its finest. |
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The tax rate, regulations and restrictions (being dictated by big corp lobbyists to those in congress making them), the economy (mainly manipulated by the FED and the private banking cartel), their QE policies robbing the taxpayer to prop up those corps and banks sitting on the money and not releasing it into the economy due to those regs and qualifications, and the list goes on! Until congress does its job, honors their oaths, and restores constitutional liberty back to the people, actually allows a free market to dictate prices without manipulation by the FED/bankers/corps and their lobbyists, we will have an economy that only favors the rich. Corporate welfare and bailouts is merely an incentive to corporations and manufacturers to create scarcity to qualify for those bailouts. It's not all about lazy, or all about any one thing in particular, it's about manipulation, power and greed . Politicians and Governments favor the hand that feeds them. What the people don't realize is that THAT hand can be cut off by the consumer. However, with a 24 hour corporate sponsored media bombardment, the distractions and propaganda instilling fear to get people to give up their power and liberties for a false sense of security, the peoples addiction to those distractions, the influence it has on the voting public to re-elect those creating the problems, misdirecting the blame, and dividing us against ourselves, nothing much is ever going to change. That's a long winded diatribe, and only my personal opinion, but it didn't happen over night and isn't going to change any faster or without the public facing the facts to begin with..... like any addiction, you have to admit the problem before you can fix it Your correct, but here's a great example of control over the population and professional staffing. I need to see a surgen to have surgery. I cannot go back to work until I receive medical release. The systems know I am in the midst of a civil case. This civil case was caused by big business, government and professional employees. My income will run out for medical benefits in a month or so. Then use may investments and savings to live. I will loss on my investments and my retirement plan. I can get assistance if I sign a waver about the civil proceedings and the government receives there money back. Therefore everything I own, earned, bought, etc. goes back to the government and big business. The point is I want to have my surgery now to return to work, but I am being made to wait by the medical society, government and big businesses. So they can all profit of my past earnings' which I have already paid taxes on. Its corruption at its finest. |
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Lucky for the U.S & some other countries you get welfare etc. Just makes people more lazy in a way. Over here where im from in �frica there is no such thing....its either you look after yourself or you're dead. As simple as that I'm glad we don't aspire to such a standard. your too soft hearted... American's need to get some backbone, start learning to fight back again instead of letting the a-hole government take care of us... |
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Govt is force! If force is needed how can anyone call themselves "FREE"? |
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Lucky for the U.S & some other countries you get welfare etc. Just makes people more lazy in a way. Over here where im from in �frica there is no such thing....its either you look after yourself or you're dead. As simple as that I'm glad we don't aspire to such a standard. your too soft hearted... American's need to get some backbone, start learning to fight back again instead of letting the a-hole government take care of us... Im not softhearted, Im human hearted I dont worship the dollar as much as I value human life and understand that people fall on hard times,,,, |
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Govt is force! If force is needed how can anyone call themselves "FREE"? when people are able to not starve, I dont think how 'free' they were matters freedom is a myth,,, we all answer to others, we all get help sometimes from somewhere noone is FORCED to accept the help, so its not force at all people have an option there if they need it,, as they should |
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there are many good points given on this subject, a complicated subject. Every American has been affected by the unemployment issue either directly or indirectly, Each has a take on it based on their experiences.
Regarding the unions,I come from a union family ( firemen, city workers), my father was a longshoreman.. and I don't begrudge anyone to get the money that they deserve, certainty not ones who put there life on the line.. God bless them But the fact is, the union ports (such as La, Baltimore, Long Beach & N.Y and others).. Command a much higher rate, why?. because of the unions. The average salary of a union longshoreman ( before overtime) is $124K a year. In reality, with overtime the salary is in the $175K range. they refuse to automate to eliminate overtime ( like European ports have successfully done) because they want the O.T. We pay that in the form of "port fee", they are also Prone to strikes and slowdowns. ( LA / Long beach is doing that right now). Thus disrupting commerce. The trend in Business the last 5 years has been to shy away from these ports and use the southern ports or Washington state ports. So union ports have been losing business to non union ports, so what do the unions do?.. they threaten to strike because they want more money And at $175K a year they make more then any management (except most senior) that we have in our company They are shooting themselves in the foot and when business world finally has had enough and goes away, they will be back at the union hall wondering " what happened?,,, like many other unions have done. Again, this is " my world" I don't claim that is crosses into all business models.. its just what I see and experience. |
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