I realize I am older, 50, it has become apparent that today's men don't have any values or morals anymore. You talk, go out and they expect you to just jump right in the hay. Sorry if I am old fashion, I don't want a long list of bed partners, just someone to care about.

I think gentlemen are as common as ladies

but they both exist,,,they just take more work, meet and have a higher standard than the mainstream, and are worth every bit,,,

Too many people today are very much afraid of any kind of commitment it seems. Don't lose your values! They will pay off in the long run! Don't settle for less than what you desire! That one will come at the right time! Bed partners and eye candy are a dime a dozen! There is always better eye candy which comes along for these types of people. I'd rather be alone than with someone who sees me as a sexual object! That's just the plain truth!

Gentlemen still exist. I think the present school, social, political, ... climate is producing fewer of them.

It's a shame really.

Kinda funny...when I found this site,..my thoughts were to find out if there are true gentlemen still around...I had it in my head that my home town doesn't have many to speak of...after playing around in these forums and reading what the men here write I have to say I personally think there's a lot of wonderful gentlemen everywhere..if we as ladies want to find them maybe we need to examine what we consider a gentlemen to be...and I can say that with me...if I want to be with a "gentleman"... I need to change where I'm looking and break from what attracts me to men in the first place...and if I want to be treated like a lady...I might have to change a few things I do...as far as all men want is sex...heck... Can't blame them for trying...but nine times outa ten when they get it still falls on when we give it up...lol

The Kthnxbye rules are simple and permanent :
1. When contacting someone you are interested in ' never ever be crude or vulgar, be friendly and be polite. It goes a lot farther to make a great first impression.
2.If you are given an opportunity for a offline first meet with her , do it in a public place and while it doesn't have to be a 5 star restaurant , a nice place is always in good taste . None of that going Dutch stuff either , be the guy and pay for the evening!
3. A dozen roses are a nice , thoughtful touch . If she has the intestinal fortitude to meet someone she never met before from the internet , she earned them.
4. While conversing before dinner , do NOT load up on the drinks , being tipsy is unbecoming.1 or 2 is okay to overcome the 1st time jitters
5. Snappy dress is not an option when meeting her for the first time , it's mandatory along with the proper hygiene.
6. open car doors, establishment doors .
7. call her the next day to let her know you enjoyed the evening (if you truly did)
8. For the love of Sweet Baby Jesus , look at her eyes when you're talking to her , not her body parts!
9. Never , EVER bring up intimacy before she does!
10.Ask her first if she would like to kiss you , don't just go in for kill and no tongue on a first kiss, you're not in high school ( At least we can hope)

stay classy , M2 ...

I didn't say they were perfect but I'm thinking they're a step above "Hey baby , wanna Big Mac?", call me crazy here ...

can I have a Big Mac and a kiss?

that sounds nice...although 10...?...not too sure...but I can say this approach is much better than a lot of my first date experiences...good luck in your adventures..

Again , they 're not perfect but a good start . If you treat a lady as she should be treated , she just *might* go out with you again . Strange but true.Yes , sweetestgirl, if you really want a Big Mac and a kiss , I could oblige , just not at the same time . Blech .

I always thought it was sweet when a guy asked if he could kiss me. Shows he respects me and doesn't want to be pushy.

That was my line of thought , Navygirl. One of the finer points in the art of romance is knowing when not to be overly aggressive . I do think asking a lady to kiss her is very respectful and not a sign of weakness or fear , it's just showing a little manners. Another thing I try very hard to do is make a first date as comfortable and pleasant as possible . The first 30 minutes are going to be a nervous on both parties' part ( never seen it happen differently) but once the genuine conversation starts and the tension eases , it gets much more warm and relaxing . The evening just flows in a natural direction . Guys are afraid of rejection just as much as ladies are and nothing is a given until there is a mutual attraction , it just goes up after that .It took a lot to get to this point but it sure is nice when it does , isn't it ?

oh i miss the number 10...