Topic: Questions about Obama
mrld_ii's photo
Sun 11/23/14 12:45 PM



I didn't write this, but it is thought provoking.

Barack Obama:

... Never served in the military. Not even R.O.T.C.
Why is he our Commander-in-Chief?

Neither did John Adams (Federalist), Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican), John Quincy Adams (National Republican), Martin Van Buren (D), Millard Fillmore (Whig), Grover Cleveland (R), William Howard Taft (R), Woodrow Wilson (D), Warren G. Harding (R), Calvin Coolidge (R), Herbert Hoover (R), Franklin D. Roosevelt (D), and William Clinton (D).

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/us/hail-to-chiefs-without-military-pasts.html


... Never owned, ran or even managed a business, not even a hotdog stand.
Why is he now 'CEO' of the greatest nation on earth?

Only 8 presidents have run their own business: Lincoln (R), Harding (R), FDR (D), Truman (D), Carter (D), George H.W. Bush (R), George W. Bush (R), and Hoover (R).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/presidents-entrepreneurs_n_1684521.html



... Never balanced a budget or managed a payroll.
Why is he in charge of the largest economy in the world?

No accountant/CPA has ever been elected to the office of POTUS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation



... Never was a doctor, a nurse or ever worked in any health care profession.
Why is he being trusted to completely take over America's health care system?

No doctor, nurse, nor health care administrator has ever been elected to the office of POTUS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation



... Never was Mayor of a city, or Governor of a state, in fact, he has no executive experience whatsoever.
Why is he in charge of the executive branch of the United States government?

Of our 44 POTUSs, 18 have served as U.S. Representatives, 17 as Governors, 16 as U.S. Senators, 14 as VPs, 8 as Cabinet Secretaries, and 6 as Secretaries of State.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States,_sortable_by_previous_experience




... Is a failed, corrupt 'resign or be disbarred' lawyer.
Why is he trusted to appoint our, Secretary of State, Supreme Court justices and Attorney General?

This is an erroneous statement. President Obama has "voluntarily resigned" his law license because in his current position as POTUS, he is not an actively-employed attorney.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp



... Never was a success in any area of his life except campaigning for office (and two 'autobiographies' written before he had ever accomplished anything.)
Why Was He EVER Elected President of the United States of America?

Again, erroneous information that President Obama never "was a success in any area of his life"; to boot, it's a subjective statement, at best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation






You're welcome.

It was my pleasure to do your research FOR you, thus saving yourself the time and trouble to base your opinions on legitimate and factual information, rather than knee-jerking, emotional reactionism.


drinks



laugh laugh

oh wow,, just took me back to the days of paralegal training,,,,lol

flowerforyou



That's one of the wonderful things about the internet...when used correctly, one doesn't necessarily have to have ANY legal training to gain access to factual information on which to base their opinions; it's available to anyone and everyone who chooses to use it [correctly].


Oh, and when I say "...who chooses to use it [correctly]", I don't just mean one's own brain when on the internet.



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Sun 11/23/14 12:45 PM



Ok guys, let me clear this up. First I apologize for generalizing that all Obama opponents are racist. I never meant that.

But I did mean, and I still stand by this, that a significant group that criticizes him, especially some of the top politicians, are less than honest when they deny this being at least in part about his race or ethnicity. Remember the birthers? Even after they were shown legal birth documents they refused to believe it.


Yeah, it is interesting how, during the 2008 Democratic Party primaries, some of Hillary Clinton's Democrat supporters started spreading the false rumor that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya, along with the false rumor that he is a Muslim.


and this was part of why she lost my vote

I was truly torn between the two of them, until her dirty politics really disappointed me,,, I expected more from her,, maybe she will have learned and improved in 2016drinker


And the tiger down at the zoo changed it's stripes as I stood watching, it will now be a chunky leopard.

The only thing "Hilary" really deserves is a place at the end of a rope from a scaffold on the White House lawn. But of course, this is a nation of statist and those with diseased psyche of Moral Relativism so that will never happen. Too bad, it would be so entertaining.

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Sun 11/23/14 12:48 PM




I didn't write this, but it is thought provoking.

Barack Obama:

... Never served in the military. Not even R.O.T.C.
Why is he our Commander-in-Chief?

Neither did John Adams (Federalist), Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican), John Quincy Adams (National Republican), Martin Van Buren (D), Millard Fillmore (Whig), Grover Cleveland (R), William Howard Taft (R), Woodrow Wilson (D), Warren G. Harding (R), Calvin Coolidge (R), Herbert Hoover (R), Franklin D. Roosevelt (D), and William Clinton (D).

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/us/hail-to-chiefs-without-military-pasts.html


... Never owned, ran or even managed a business, not even a hotdog stand.
Why is he now 'CEO' of the greatest nation on earth?

Only 8 presidents have run their own business: Lincoln (R), Harding (R), FDR (D), Truman (D), Carter (D), George H.W. Bush (R), George W. Bush (R), and Hoover (R).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/presidents-entrepreneurs_n_1684521.html



... Never balanced a budget or managed a payroll.
Why is he in charge of the largest economy in the world?

No accountant/CPA has ever been elected to the office of POTUS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation



... Never was a doctor, a nurse or ever worked in any health care profession.
Why is he being trusted to completely take over America's health care system?

No doctor, nurse, nor health care administrator has ever been elected to the office of POTUS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation



... Never was Mayor of a city, or Governor of a state, in fact, he has no executive experience whatsoever.
Why is he in charge of the executive branch of the United States government?

Of our 44 POTUSs, 18 have served as U.S. Representatives, 17 as Governors, 16 as U.S. Senators, 14 as VPs, 8 as Cabinet Secretaries, and 6 as Secretaries of State.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States,_sortable_by_previous_experience




... Is a failed, corrupt 'resign or be disbarred' lawyer.
Why is he trusted to appoint our, Secretary of State, Supreme Court justices and Attorney General?

This is an erroneous statement. President Obama has "voluntarily resigned" his law license because in his current position as POTUS, he is not an actively-employed attorney.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp



... Never was a success in any area of his life except campaigning for office (and two 'autobiographies' written before he had ever accomplished anything.)
Why Was He EVER Elected President of the United States of America?

Again, erroneous information that President Obama never "was a success in any area of his life"; to boot, it's a subjective statement, at best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation






You're welcome.

It was my pleasure to do your research FOR you, thus saving yourself the time and trouble to base your opinions on legitimate and factual information, rather than knee-jerking, emotional reactionism.


drinks



laugh laugh

oh wow,, just took me back to the days of paralegal training,,,,lol

flowerforyou



That's one of the wonderful things about the internet...when used correctly, one doesn't necessarily have to have ANY legal training to gain access to factual information on which to base their opinions; it's available to anyone and everyone who chooses to use it [correctly].


Oh, and when I say "...who chooses to use it [correctly]", I don't just mean one's own brain when on the internet.



biggrin





I get it.

My mother raised us not to be 'lazy thinkers', so its important to me to take information riddled with opinions and check a few other sources before repeating it,,,

it astounds me how often people just repeat snippets with little to no further verifications,, especially when the snippets are so obviously RIDDLED with personal opinions, adjectives,, etc,,


I truly enjoyed your line by line with references though,,,tyflowerforyou

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Sun 11/23/14 12:49 PM

"As "democracy" is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron."
--- H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
laugh


And he has been so right on many occasions since then, the latest being now. But then the best is yet to come.

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Sun 11/23/14 01:12 PM

there is so much in that Mencken quote that inspires thought


Really?


1st. that though we espouse openly to prefer 'experience' in any number of areas,, we also espouse just as often to believe that the 'common' person should be elected instead, because those who have attained any power/experience are by nature more corrupt,,,


And the point would be that experience would represent corruption? Then I would suggest that one needs to remove self from ignorance and truly discover the meaning of experience, but that is hard to do with statist views.

Or would it be that the common man should be elected because of the lack of experience? which in and of itself would mean "corruption" from the inception, a statement of fraud.



2nd , that although fools are hard to suffer, fools who believe themselves superiors are even more difficult


Wow, now that would be a pure statement of experience.


so is 'plain' the standard by which everything should be measured as appropriate,,,for representing the 'plain' folks,,,

or is excellence in all things the preferred leadership?


And again, just what is the point? It is but the juvenile and the mentally incapable that need to be represented. And it seems that society as a whole is represented justly.

What leadership? Are you again confused? The "Chief Executive" of this country is labeled a "President". That label is but a title and nothing more, "Chief Executive" is the function and that function is to execute and the chief part means the prime executor.

The only "leader" function is in insuring that those beneath the chief carry out the functions delegated by the "chief".

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Sun 11/23/14 01:16 PM





I didn't write this, but it is thought provoking.

Barack Obama:

... Never served in the military. Not even R.O.T.C.
Why is he our Commander-in-Chief?

Neither did John Adams (Federalist), Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican), John Quincy Adams (National Republican), Martin Van Buren (D), Millard Fillmore (Whig), Grover Cleveland (R), William Howard Taft (R), Woodrow Wilson (D), Warren G. Harding (R), Calvin Coolidge (R), Herbert Hoover (R), Franklin D. Roosevelt (D), and William Clinton (D).

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/us/hail-to-chiefs-without-military-pasts.html


... Never owned, ran or even managed a business, not even a hotdog stand.
Why is he now 'CEO' of the greatest nation on earth?

Only 8 presidents have run their own business: Lincoln (R), Harding (R), FDR (D), Truman (D), Carter (D), George H.W. Bush (R), George W. Bush (R), and Hoover (R).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/presidents-entrepreneurs_n_1684521.html



... Never balanced a budget or managed a payroll.
Why is he in charge of the largest economy in the world?

No accountant/CPA has ever been elected to the office of POTUS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation



... Never was a doctor, a nurse or ever worked in any health care profession.
Why is he being trusted to completely take over America's health care system?

No doctor, nurse, nor health care administrator has ever been elected to the office of POTUS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation



... Never was Mayor of a city, or Governor of a state, in fact, he has no executive experience whatsoever.
Why is he in charge of the executive branch of the United States government?

Of our 44 POTUSs, 18 have served as U.S. Representatives, 17 as Governors, 16 as U.S. Senators, 14 as VPs, 8 as Cabinet Secretaries, and 6 as Secretaries of State.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States,_sortable_by_previous_experience




... Is a failed, corrupt 'resign or be disbarred' lawyer.
Why is he trusted to appoint our, Secretary of State, Supreme Court justices and Attorney General?

This is an erroneous statement. President Obama has "voluntarily resigned" his law license because in his current position as POTUS, he is not an actively-employed attorney.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp



... Never was a success in any area of his life except campaigning for office (and two 'autobiographies' written before he had ever accomplished anything.)
Why Was He EVER Elected President of the United States of America?

Again, erroneous information that President Obama never "was a success in any area of his life"; to boot, it's a subjective statement, at best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation






You're welcome.

It was my pleasure to do your research FOR you, thus saving yourself the time and trouble to base your opinions on legitimate and factual information, rather than knee-jerking, emotional reactionism.


drinks



laugh laugh

oh wow,, just took me back to the days of paralegal training,,,,lol

flowerforyou



That's one of the wonderful things about the internet...when used correctly, one doesn't necessarily have to have ANY legal training to gain access to factual information on which to base their opinions; it's available to anyone and everyone who chooses to use it [correctly].


Oh, and when I say "...who chooses to use it [correctly]", I don't just mean one's own brain when on the internet.



biggrin





I get it.

My mother raised us not to be 'lazy thinkers', so its important to me to take information riddled with opinions and check a few other sources before repeating it,,, rofl

it astounds me how often people just repeat snippets with little to no further verifications,, especially when the snippets are so obviously RIDDLED with personal opinions, adjectives,, etc,,what


I truly enjoyed your line by line with references though,,,tyflowerforyou ill

mrld_ii's photo
Sun 11/23/14 01:19 PM





I didn't write this, but it is thought provoking.

Barack Obama:

... Never served in the military. Not even R.O.T.C.
Why is he our Commander-in-Chief?

Neither did John Adams (Federalist), Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican), John Quincy Adams (National Republican), Martin Van Buren (D), Millard Fillmore (Whig), Grover Cleveland (R), William Howard Taft (R), Woodrow Wilson (D), Warren G. Harding (R), Calvin Coolidge (R), Herbert Hoover (R), Franklin D. Roosevelt (D), and William Clinton (D).

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/us/hail-to-chiefs-without-military-pasts.html


... Never owned, ran or even managed a business, not even a hotdog stand.
Why is he now 'CEO' of the greatest nation on earth?

Only 8 presidents have run their own business: Lincoln (R), Harding (R), FDR (D), Truman (D), Carter (D), George H.W. Bush (R), George W. Bush (R), and Hoover (R).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/presidents-entrepreneurs_n_1684521.html



... Never balanced a budget or managed a payroll.
Why is he in charge of the largest economy in the world?

No accountant/CPA has ever been elected to the office of POTUS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation



... Never was a doctor, a nurse or ever worked in any health care profession.
Why is he being trusted to completely take over America's health care system?

No doctor, nurse, nor health care administrator has ever been elected to the office of POTUS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation



... Never was Mayor of a city, or Governor of a state, in fact, he has no executive experience whatsoever.
Why is he in charge of the executive branch of the United States government?

Of our 44 POTUSs, 18 have served as U.S. Representatives, 17 as Governors, 16 as U.S. Senators, 14 as VPs, 8 as Cabinet Secretaries, and 6 as Secretaries of State.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States,_sortable_by_previous_experience




... Is a failed, corrupt 'resign or be disbarred' lawyer.
Why is he trusted to appoint our, Secretary of State, Supreme Court justices and Attorney General?

This is an erroneous statement. President Obama has "voluntarily resigned" his law license because in his current position as POTUS, he is not an actively-employed attorney.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp



... Never was a success in any area of his life except campaigning for office (and two 'autobiographies' written before he had ever accomplished anything.)
Why Was He EVER Elected President of the United States of America?

Again, erroneous information that President Obama never "was a success in any area of his life"; to boot, it's a subjective statement, at best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_occupation






You're welcome.

It was my pleasure to do your research FOR you, thus saving yourself the time and trouble to base your opinions on legitimate and factual information, rather than knee-jerking, emotional reactionism.


drinks



laugh laugh

oh wow,, just took me back to the days of paralegal training,,,,lol

flowerforyou



That's one of the wonderful things about the internet...when used correctly, one doesn't necessarily have to have ANY legal training to gain access to factual information on which to base their opinions; it's available to anyone and everyone who chooses to use it [correctly].


Oh, and when I say "...who chooses to use it [correctly]", I don't just mean one's own brain when on the internet.



biggrin





I get it.

My mother raised us not to be 'lazy thinkers', so its important to me to take information riddled with opinions and check a few other sources before repeating it,,,

it astounds me how often people just repeat snippets with little to no further verifications,, especially when the snippets are so obviously RIDDLED with personal opinions, adjectives,, etc,,


I truly enjoyed your line by line with references though,,,tyflowerforyou


Glad you did. I suspect you're one a handful who did, though.

Which is probably only a slightly smaller number than those who actually read it...

...which is a slightly smaller number than those who actually understood it.


It's obvious the majority took OP's OP as gospel, since it *sounds* good and and reads *right*.


drinks

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Sun 11/23/14 01:29 PM

2nd , that although fools are hard to suffer, fools who believe themselves superiors are even more difficult



Wow, now that would be a pure statement of experience.



you (obviously) don't even know the half of it,,,


and how I enjoy the experiences I am given here, and the delicious irony of the responses


,,laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 11/23/14 02:16 PM
I admit.............lol......I posted this to get reactions and boy did I! Love to stir the pot once in a while!

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Sun 11/23/14 03:04 PM

I admit.............lol......I posted this to get reactions and boy did I! Love to stir the pot once in a while!


If you are going to stir the pot, then could you at least put in it something that I like?


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Sun 11/23/14 03:09 PM
awwww, no fan of cats here but that cyber cat is CUUUUUTTE

mrld_ii's photo
Sun 11/23/14 03:22 PM

I admit.............lol......I posted this to get reactions and boy did I! Love to stir the pot once in a while!


We posters and onlookers enjoyed it, too.


It helped to even more clearly define the lines between those who are capable of thinking and those who simply regurgitate - and run with - what sounds *right*.


:thumbsup:


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Sun 11/23/14 04:23 PM
Good thing I noted that I didn't write that; however, there is a little truth mixed in with a large portion of unsubstantiated facts there.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't claim it. That has a huge slant yo the right affixed to it. Good writing is supposed to be balanced, something journalist today would do well to remember. Republican and Democrat.

Peccy's photo
Sun 11/23/14 04:25 PM


I admit.............lol......I posted this to get reactions and boy did I! Love to stir the pot once in a while!


If you are going to stir the pot, then could you at least put in it something that I like?


still eatin' p---y huh? Good for you my furry Melmacian!

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Sun 11/23/14 05:18 PM
Edited by mrld_ii on Sun 11/23/14 05:16 PM

Good thing I noted that I didn't write that; however, there is a little truth mixed in with a large portion of unsubstantiated facts there.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't claim it. That has a huge slant yo the right affixed to it. Good writing is supposed to be balanced, something journalist today would do well to remember. Republican and Democrat.


Factual writing - and that which presents itself to be factual - needs to be just that.





Which part(s) of your un-attributed plagiarized post was/were factual?

* That President Obama, like 31% of our presidents didn't serve in the military?

* That President Obama, like 81% of our presidents didn't run a business?

* That President Obama, like 100% of our presidents isn't a CPA/accountant?

* That President Obama, like 100% of our presidents hasn't been a doctor, nurse, or in any other way affiliated with health care?

* That President Obama, like 50% of our presidents found his way to the office of the Presidency via State legislature, or that like 100% of our presidents he, too, has never been a mayor?




Ummmm...the meat of your presentation, which was really some other misinformed soul's presentation, is factually incorrect.

The only truth in what you both presented as fact is that he is, indeed, a man, as evidenced by the repeated "he" referenced throughout. And, he is a man that pisses a LOT of people off.


Welcome to being the President of the United States. This time - and so far - he has a singularly unique *reason* as to WHY he's so able to do so.



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Sun 11/23/14 05:19 PM


Good thing I noted that I didn't write that; however, there is a little truth mixed in with a large portion of unsubstantiated facts there.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't claim it. That has a huge slant yo the right affixed to it. Good writing is supposed to be balanced, something journalist today would do well to remember. Republican and Democrat.


Factual writing - and that which presents itself to be factual - needs to be just that.





Which part(s) of your un-attributed plagiarized post was/were factual?

* That President Obama, like 31% of our presidents didn't serve in the military?

* That President Obama, like 81% of our presidents didn't run a business?

* That President Obama, like 100% of our presidents isn't a CPA/accountant?

* That President Obama, like 100% of our presidents hasn't been a doctor, nurse, or in any other way affiliated with health care?

* That President Obama, like 50% of our presidents found his way to the office of the Presidency via State legislature, or that like 100% of our presidents he, too, has never been a mayor?




Ummmm...the meat of your presentation, which was really some other misinformed soul's presentation, is factually incorrect.

The only truth in what you both presented as fact is that he is, indeed, a man, as evidenced by the repeated "he" referenced throughout. And, he is a man that pisses a LOT of people off.


Welcome to being the President of the United States. This time - and so far - he has a singularly unique *reason* as to WHY he's so able to do so.





Funny, that from you.

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Sun 11/23/14 05:20 PM
Edited by alnewman on Sun 11/23/14 05:19 PM

I get it.


And I would have to ask both, get what? You can give them books but you can't even beat comprehension into them.

Oh, and I only bothered to read one and I'm not sure why that one.What good are these facts? Each of the facts in to OP are indeed true, the discourse is on the conclusions and there the facts seem to justify the conclusions.

After all, there is now almost six years of "history" in which to judge these conclusions. So just where has this proven any of the conclusions wrong?

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Sun 11/23/14 05:21 PM

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Sun 11/23/14 05:36 PM




Doesn't change matters, does it? Just an acceptance of the sting.

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Sun 11/23/14 05:36 PM