Well as usual, your emotions seem to overrule reason. For some Ayn Rand that has been dead for some 32 years and seems to have been hijacked by some association is ok, but the others seem to not be anything.

Therefore I would have to surmise that anyone not associated with Ayn Rand would not be a valid source to you.

And no, I associate Harvard with pure greed and corruption, suffering from a mass case of Moral Relativism. And it would be fair to say that Harvard is by far not the only ones that has that affliction.

The fact that I know for a fact that this *conclusion* is simply erroneous makes the whole report's findings suspect.


California is made up of many, many, many more cities than just Los Angeles, San Jose, and San Francisco.

thank you

there are many types of 'intelligence' acquired in many ways

this was just having to do with (formal) educational attainment

Yep, and some people are intelligent enough to pursue a trade instead of acquiring a massive student-loan debt.

I agree and some people raise children without being 'married'




stats are interesting tidbits of information,, people choose what to do with them,,,

Yep, a mother and a father can raise their child without the two being formally married to each other. You point is ... ?

that numbers are sometimes used to suggest marriage decreases poverty and other things

and though the numbers are real,,, what people might INFER from the numbers is a whole other issue

same thing here,, the numbers are real regarding secondary educational attainment,,,,,but everyone will deduce for themselves what (if anything) it means,,,

To be more precise, the claim is that a two-parent household is less likely to be impoverished than a single-parent household. Anyway ...



Of course the statistics that you cited don't take into account people who have furthered their education through trade schools or through military training.

I was speaking specifically about the claims made that 'marriage' (not two parent homes),,,,decreases poverty rate


I agree it takes two, I think the paper behind it doesn't matter, regarding financial poverty,,

I also agree the statistics did not include anything but what they very plainly stated,,, secondary educational (formal) attainment

Two people being married to each other usually implies that they live under the same roof. Anyway ...



In other words, those particular statistics don't mean much.

as much as any statistics mean,,

I would have thought for sure my name would be at the top of this list. Clearly your data is faulty. :P

Common sense would dictate that any list of the states with the least educated people would include those who never got / couldn't get high school diplomas/GEDs.

That same common sense would dictate that studies that conclude there's less poverty in 2-parent households are including households of single-mothers-at-16 in their stats, too.


So, yeah...there's [at least] a modicum of validity to the studies' conclusions without the necessity for listing all the exceptions to *The Rules*.

Must of been a common core exam where there are no correct answers but just processes and this student demonstrated the process of intelligence which can NOT be tolerated, correct answers outside the rote expected.

This student will forever be shunned and destined to a life of living on the dole as he just can't follow instructions and is useless to the slave society.