Topic: The Citizens have spoken!
Ras427's photo
Wed 11/05/14 12:25 PM
New crooks replacing old crooks.
In both parties.

Poly and tics 1000
American people 0.

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Wed 11/05/14 02:53 PM
Edited by alnewman on Wed 11/05/14 02:51 PM

New crooks replacing old crooks.
In both parties.

Poly and tics 1000
American people 0.


Understandable, but my preference is to see the matter as it truly manifests itself. One group, the red team, and their mates, the blue team, that share in the psyhopathic illusion of some authority that somehow gives them jurisdiction as master over the slaves that has deemed them head masters. Albeit:

Jurisdiction

From the Latin noun jus, juris: "law" and the Latin verb dictere: "to speak, to say"; thus jurisdiction literally means "to say what the law is".

Authority
An illusion of a diseased psyche, based entirely in violence and built upon the erroneous and dogmatic belief that some people are masters who have the moral right to issue commands, and others are slaves who have a moral obligation to obey the masters. Slavery

The belief in the legitimacy of "authority" is the belief in the legitimacy of slavery. Ultimately, "authority" is the idea that man can become God and through "jurisdiction" dictate the law.

But in reality what we have is Statism, the brilliant idea that we give a small group of people the right to kidnap, imprison, harass, steal from and kill people, so that we can be protected from people who kidnap, harass, steal and kill people.

A statist is an individual who erroneously believes that there is such a thing as "authority" vested in certain human beings magically giving them the "right to rule" over other people. This "authority" means that certain people who we call "government", have the "moral right" to issue commands to those whom they rule (those under their "jurisdiction"), and that their "subjects" (slaves) have a "moral obligation" to obey the arbitrary dictates set by their masters. Most simply put, a statist is someone who believes in the legitimacy of slavery.

And every two years, all the good little statist march down to the polls to choose one of those chosen for them so that they can be enslaved by their "choice" for another two years.




mrld_ii's photo
Wed 11/05/14 03:40 PM
The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what


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Wed 11/05/14 04:02 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 11/05/14 04:32 PM
some of the people have spoken, as there has yet to ever exist any potential in reality for ALL the people to have spoken, but for now regardless, since that which loves to feel self important, is easily persuaded to identify with illusions of "winning" groups, well sadly, the want of these emotions it self makes these gullible and easily led and fed, able to be convinced right turns be better than left turns, but never noticing they always end up in the same cul de sac.

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Wed 11/05/14 07:10 PM

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




Majority, what difference does it make, do you think this is a democracy?

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Wed 11/05/14 07:21 PM


The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




Majority, what difference does it make, do you think this is a democracy?



:laughing:


Scraping bottom TO find something to *argue* with ME about?


Whether it's a democracy or not and/or however "a majority" is defined, it's still the same governmental system in place and the same "majority" as who spoke in 2008 and 2012,

ergo, it carries the same level of "validity"...NOW and THEN - no more, no less.




Enjoy your one-way *debate*. yawn

davidben1's photo
Wed 11/05/14 07:24 PM
there be only ONE RIGHT, that which include what ALL WANT, as EQUAL IN VALUE SO VALIDITY.

davidben1's photo
Wed 11/05/14 07:33 PM
small eye's base what can exist today and tomorrow on what existed yesterday, wise eye's base what can exist today and tomorrow on what will create the wants of all to exist...

for the mind cannot divulge how to create anything to any human mind except it is first wanted.

davidben1's photo
Wed 11/05/14 08:03 PM
Obama has slapped only and all the blind self conceited foolish brains that were so blind and gullible as to not see Obama did agree and allow what was "created in the public eye", for the betterment of all, that must be created by those who DO SEA, for those who cannot see.

davidben1's photo
Wed 11/05/14 08:16 PM
what a grand day twill be, when this grand mirage for the benefit of teaching what be teachable and winning only what be winning, no longer needs to be further created nor coddled nor perpetuated.

for it be only who win the WORLD SERIES, that actually hath won in the minds of the SEA, the goal of those with purpose and determination beyond personal emotions, from the very start of the "grand game illusion" so many eon and moons ago.

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Thu 11/06/14 04:01 AM
Edited by uche9aa on Thu 11/06/14 04:14 AM
Better,if that will spell doom for ISIS,BOKO HARAM,Iran and other terrorists and their sponsors.Perhaps,Putin of Russia should expect a tougher US president after weak Obama.Democrats should take the back sit,president Obama's few good policies notwithstanding

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Thu 11/06/14 04:56 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 11/06/14 05:02 AM

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




A vote for either of the banker/corporation/media controlled 2 parties is a loss for the people

Nothing much changes but the holder of the gavel signaling our fates

Obozo is still going to do his best to destroy America as promised only now it will be mostly by EO since Reid can no longer protect him and Holder is leaving as well.

The Emperor is about to reveal his true wardrobe

Chazster's photo
Thu 11/06/14 05:36 AM

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




I find midterm elections more telling than presidential. Different states and different candidates. Didn't we just have the biggest swing during his time in off in the past 65 years?

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Thu 11/06/14 07:29 AM


The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




I find midterm elections more telling than presidential. Different states and different candidates. Didn't we just have the biggest swing during his time in off in the past 65 years?



Don't know if it's the biggest swing, but it IS the largest Republican segment in Congress since WWII.


But, again, I ask (and, again, everyone ignores): since the citizens have now spoken and 'made a statement',


what about the statement made in 2008 and especially in 2012 that so many of you were so willing to ignore? Why does THIS "the citizens have spoken" carry more weight/validity than when "the citizens [had] spoken" back then?


They're honest and valid questions...feel free to squirm in your seats as much as you like, but they DO (eventually) deserve honest and valid answers.


drinks



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Thu 11/06/14 09:08 AM




The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




I find midterm elections more telling than presidential. Different states and different candidates. Didn't we just have the biggest swing during his time in off in the past 65 years?



Don't know if it's the biggest swing, but it IS the largest Republican segment in Congress since WWII.


But, again, I ask (and, again, everyone ignores): since the citizens have now spoken and 'made a statement',


what about the statement made in 2008 and especially in 2012 that so many of you were so willing to ignore? Why does THIS "the citizens have spoken" carry more weight/validity than when "the citizens [had] spoken" back then?


They're honest and valid questions...feel free to squirm in your seats as much as you like, but they DO (eventually) deserve honest and valid answers.


drinks




eh, pretty much all electronic voting can be hacked, captured while it goes over the internet. So basically you can count all those votes as fraud.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/11/03/alaska-election-nightmare/



Maybe ^^^she can answer your question...



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Thu 11/06/14 09:20 AM



The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




Majority, what difference does it make, do you think this is a democracy?



:laughing:


Scraping bottom TO find something to *argue* with ME about?


Whether it's a democracy or not and/or however "a majority" is defined, it's still the same governmental system in place and the same "majority" as who spoke in 2008 and 2012,

ergo, it carries the same level of "validity"...NOW and THEN - no more, no less.


Enjoy your one-way *debate*. yawn


Debate, what debate?


no photo
Thu 11/06/14 09:32 AM
Not sure if this fits here, but this blog has been circulating around FB and I found it quite interesting.

http://kstreet607.com/2013/06/21/a-canadians-view-on-our-disrespect-of-president-obamas-presidency/

mrld_ii's photo
Thu 11/06/14 09:42 AM





The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




I find midterm elections more telling than presidential. Different states and different candidates. Didn't we just have the biggest swing during his time in off in the past 65 years?



Don't know if it's the biggest swing, but it IS the largest Republican segment in Congress since WWII.


But, again, I ask (and, again, everyone ignores): since the citizens have now spoken and 'made a statement',


what about the statement made in 2008 and especially in 2012 that so many of you were so willing to ignore? Why does THIS "the citizens have spoken" carry more weight/validity than when "the citizens [had] spoken" back then?


They're honest and valid questions...feel free to squirm in your seats as much as you like, but they DO (eventually) deserve honest and valid answers.


drinks




eh, pretty much all electronic voting can be hacked, captured while it goes over the internet. So basically you can count all those votes as fraud.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/11/03/alaska-election-nightmare/



Maybe ^^^she can answer your question...






Oh.

So, the 2014 midterm election results, in which the conservatives/Republicans assumed majority control of Congress, were as fraudulent as the 2008 and 2012 general elections.


Got it. So, these results are to be as dismissed as those results.


Thank you for the honest and valid reply.


drinks

mrld_ii's photo
Thu 11/06/14 09:47 AM

Not sure if this fits here, but this blog has been circulating around FB and I found it quite interesting.

http://kstreet607.com/2013/06/21/a-canadians-view-on-our-disrespect-of-president-obamas-presidency/


I read it; it's very articulate and makes very valid points.


I've stated numerous times that in my 36 years as a voting adult, I refuse to current-POTUS bash, regardless of their party.

While I realize it's my Constitutional and SCOTUS'-sanctioned right TO do so, I also refuse to do anything disrespectful to the U.S. flag - ANother symbol of US and U.S.



Sad that someone who doesn't have a vested interest in the outcome gets it, when so many of US and U.S. who DO,


don't.


Thanks for sharing it.


drinks

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Thu 11/06/14 09:59 AM






The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2008 when they elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.

The [majority of] citizens had spoken in 2012 when the re-elected Obama as POTUS; most of you disavowed THAT majority voice, then.


Why is the [majority of] citizens who have spoken in 2014 suddenly carrying more validity and weight than the voice of the [majority of] citizens, then?




Is the majority voice more *right*, THIS time?!? what




I find midterm elections more telling than presidential. Different states and different candidates. Didn't we just have the biggest swing during his time in off in the past 65 years?



Don't know if it's the biggest swing, but it IS the largest Republican segment in Congress since WWII.


But, again, I ask (and, again, everyone ignores): since the citizens have now spoken and 'made a statement',


what about the statement made in 2008 and especially in 2012 that so many of you were so willing to ignore? Why does THIS "the citizens have spoken" carry more weight/validity than when "the citizens [had] spoken" back then?


They're honest and valid questions...feel free to squirm in your seats as much as you like, but they DO (eventually) deserve honest and valid answers.


drinks




eh, pretty much all electronic voting can be hacked, captured while it goes over the internet. So basically you can count all those votes as fraud.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/11/03/alaska-election-nightmare/



Maybe ^^^she can answer your question...






Oh.

So, the 2014 midterm election results, in which the conservatives/Republicans assumed majority control of Congress, were as fraudulent as the 2008 and 2012 general elections.


Got it. So, these results are to be as dismissed as those results.


Thank you for the honest and valid reply.


drinks


Like I said, ask Fleta....That's her post, not mine....and you're welcome...