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I think it's only possible in our memory. When we think about the past. Time is important to people who have busy schedules. It's not so important for someone who lives their life as a hermit. I don't have to go to sleep at night. I could go to sleep ANY time of the day. It's just that other people accept certain times of the day, to do certain things. Everything revolves around time. exactly, one of the many reasons i say "time" is just in peoples heads... we all have our own version of what time is or isn't, since we all experience it differently... When the GPS clock in orbit talks to the GPS clock on the surface, and they compute the RELATIVE differences in the speed of time due to GENERAL RELATIVITY, what human head is the data going through? |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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I think it's only possible in our memory. When we think about the past. Time is important to people who have busy schedules. It's not so important for someone who lives their life as a hermit. I don't have to go to sleep at night. I could go to sleep ANY time of the day. It's just that other people accept certain times of the day, to do certain things. Everything revolves around time. exactly, one of the many reasons i say "time" is just in peoples heads... we all have our own version of what time is or isn't, since we all experience it differently... When the GPS clock in orbit talks to the GPS clock on the surface, and they compute the RELATIVE differences in the speed of time due to GENERAL RELATIVITY, what human head is the data going through? i posted this a couple of days ago, see what you think of it... "maybe the universal frequencies speed up the faster anything goes... all atoms have a natural vibration, or frequency, and if it changes according to velocity, the object that is speeding up changes the natural frequency. maybe if, in a quantum level, they all change simultaneously to make the appearance of "time" changing... " as you know, i don't believe "time" exists, so i was thinking of other possibilities as to why this happens... this one is on my mind right now... |
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I think it's only possible in our memory. When we think about the past. Time is important to people who have busy schedules. It's not so important for someone who lives their life as a hermit. I don't have to go to sleep at night. I could go to sleep ANY time of the day. It's just that other people accept certain times of the day, to do certain things. Everything revolves around time. exactly, one of the many reasons i say "time" is just in peoples heads... we all have our own version of what time is or isn't, since we all experience it differently... When the GPS clock in orbit talks to the GPS clock on the surface, and they compute the RELATIVE differences in the speed of time due to GENERAL RELATIVITY, what human head is the data going through? i posted this a couple of days ago, see what you think of it... "maybe the universal frequencies speed up the faster anything goes... all atoms have a natural vibration, or frequency, and if it changes according to velocity, the object that is speeding up changes the natural frequency. maybe if, in a quantum level, they all change simultaneously to make the appearance of "time" changing... " as you know, i don't believe "time" exists, so i was thinking of other possibilities as to why this happens... this one is on my mind right now... Well, as you go faster time slows. The frequencies of everything or anything can't tell how fast they are going so, to an observer going at the same speed, everything appears to be the same. To an observer who is NOT moving at the same speed but much slower, the motions, frequencies, and time itself of the observed moving at great speed appear to be moving much slower. The difference of vibration, speech, and time itself RELATIVE to each other is the basis of the theory of RELATIVITY. |
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I think it's only possible in our memory. When we think about the past. Time is important to people who have busy schedules. It's not so important for someone who lives their life as a hermit. I don't have to go to sleep at night. I could go to sleep ANY time of the day. It's just that other people accept certain times of the day, to do certain things. Everything revolves around time. exactly, one of the many reasons i say "time" is just in peoples heads... we all have our own version of what time is or isn't, since we all experience it differently... When the GPS clock in orbit talks to the GPS clock on the surface, and they compute the RELATIVE differences in the speed of time due to GENERAL RELATIVITY, what human head is the data going through? i posted this a couple of days ago, see what you think of it... "maybe the universal frequencies speed up the faster anything goes... all atoms have a natural vibration, or frequency, and if it changes according to velocity, the object that is speeding up changes the natural frequency. maybe if, in a quantum level, they all change simultaneously to make the appearance of "time" changing... " as you know, i don't believe "time" exists, so i was thinking of other possibilities as to why this happens... this one is on my mind right now... Well, as you go faster time slows. The frequencies of everything or anything can't tell how fast they are going so, to an observer going at the same speed, everything appears to be the same. To an observer who is NOT moving at the same speed but much slower, the motions, frequencies, and time itself of the observed moving at great speed appear to be moving much slower. The difference of vibration, speech, and time itself RELATIVE to each other is the basis of the theory of RELATIVITY. no, "time" doesn't slow... units of measurement don't change |
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I think it's only possible in our memory. When we think about the past. Time is important to people who have busy schedules. It's not so important for someone who lives their life as a hermit. I don't have to go to sleep at night. I could go to sleep ANY time of the day. It's just that other people accept certain times of the day, to do certain things. Everything revolves around time. exactly, one of the many reasons i say "time" is just in peoples heads... we all have our own version of what time is or isn't, since we all experience it differently... When the GPS clock in orbit talks to the GPS clock on the surface, and they compute the RELATIVE differences in the speed of time due to GENERAL RELATIVITY, what human head is the data going through? i posted this a couple of days ago, see what you think of it... "maybe the universal frequencies speed up the faster anything goes... all atoms have a natural vibration, or frequency, and if it changes according to velocity, the object that is speeding up changes the natural frequency. maybe if, in a quantum level, they all change simultaneously to make the appearance of "time" changing... " as you know, i don't believe "time" exists, so i was thinking of other possibilities as to why this happens... this one is on my mind right now... Well, as you go faster time slows. The frequencies of everything or anything can't tell how fast they are going so, to an observer going at the same speed, everything appears to be the same. To an observer who is NOT moving at the same speed but much slower, the motions, frequencies, and time itself of the observed moving at great speed appear to be moving much slower. The difference of vibration, speech, and time itself RELATIVE to each other is the basis of the theory of RELATIVITY. no, "time" doesn't slow... units of measurement don't change See, that's where you have it all wrong. Time does slow, the orbiting atomic clocks prove it. Time is not a unit of measurement. Time is a fundamental property of the universe as in space/time. Kaku on the "Physics of Time Travel" http://mkaku.org/home/articles/the-physics-of-time-travel/ |
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I think it's only possible in our memory. When we think about the past. Time is important to people who have busy schedules. It's not so important for someone who lives their life as a hermit. I don't have to go to sleep at night. I could go to sleep ANY time of the day. It's just that other people accept certain times of the day, to do certain things. Everything revolves around time. exactly, one of the many reasons i say "time" is just in peoples heads... we all have our own version of what time is or isn't, since we all experience it differently... When the GPS clock in orbit talks to the GPS clock on the surface, and they compute the RELATIVE differences in the speed of time due to GENERAL RELATIVITY, what human head is the data going through? i posted this a couple of days ago, see what you think of it... "maybe the universal frequencies speed up the faster anything goes... all atoms have a natural vibration, or frequency, and if it changes according to velocity, the object that is speeding up changes the natural frequency. maybe if, in a quantum level, they all change simultaneously to make the appearance of "time" changing... " as you know, i don't believe "time" exists, so i was thinking of other possibilities as to why this happens... this one is on my mind right now... Well, as you go faster time slows. The frequencies of everything or anything can't tell how fast they are going so, to an observer going at the same speed, everything appears to be the same. To an observer who is NOT moving at the same speed but much slower, the motions, frequencies, and time itself of the observed moving at great speed appear to be moving much slower. The difference of vibration, speech, and time itself RELATIVE to each other is the basis of the theory of RELATIVITY. no, "time" doesn't slow... units of measurement don't change See, that's where you have it all wrong. Time does slow, the orbiting atomic clocks prove it. Time is not a unit of measurement. Time is a fundamental property of the universe as in space/time. Kaku on the "Physics of Time Travel" http://mkaku.org/home/articles/the-physics-of-time-travel/ i'm sure Kaku and you are smarter than me, but still, there is no such thing as time... when kaku, you, einstien or anyone else wants to point out what time is rather than what it does, post it here please... |
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McTaggerts unreality of time essay says about the same as you have been if you are not already familiar. I haven't read everything here but the philosopher David Lewis thought that people could travel back in time but he also believed that the past is determined even regarding the actions of time travelers.
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Also Richard Gott theorizes that the non Euclidean geometry around cosmic strings would allow for you to beat light at slower than light speeds thus travelling back in time.
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Also Richard Gott theorizes that the non Euclidean geometry around cosmic strings would allow for you to beat light at slower than light speeds thus travelling back in time.
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People experiencing time differently like the Haefield effect for instance merely creates a distinction between personal time and external time.
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People experiencing time differently like the Haefield effect for instance merely creates a distinction between personal time and external time. i would speculate it is because everyone has their own realities... they all overlap, making it seem like one reality, but actually everyone sees things a slight bit differently... i don't know if time travel is possible, but i am quite certain that time is a perception we each see a little differently... |
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Time is observed as Quantifiable and constant throughout the universe, therefore, not subjective. If some people perceive the flow of time differently (like people who blackout a lot)their perception has no bearing on the objective flow of time. If a person were to travel near the speed of light from a certain perspective (i.e. people who are stationary)the personal time of the stationary observer and the light speed traveler would diverge but this is not an effect of perception it is an effect of time dilation and that time dilation is measureable, therefore, objective and not subjective. This many worlds, subjective, quasi-solipitical understanding of time you seem to be employing is completely unverifiable, without justification and is not represented in any major school of thought.
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The question which initiated this debate really implies two questions not one. Is time travel physically possible? Is time travel metaphysically possible? Between Gott, Davies and others I am inclined to believe that time travel seems like it might be a physical possibility as far as the theoretical physics go. As for the metaphysical problems with time travel like the grandfather paradox I'm not sure whether they can ever be fully resolved unless the past is completely determined even for time travelers and even this theory has strange implications like highly unlikely events becoming increasingly likely i.e. If I tried to kill my grandfather in the past I would in theory be prevented from doing so by slipping on banana peels,having a heart attack or some other statistically unlikely occurrence.
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Time is observed as Quantifiable and constant throughout the universe, therefore, not subjective. If some people perceive the flow of time differently (like people who blackout a lot)their perception has no bearing on the objective flow of time. If a person were to travel near the speed of light from a certain perspective (i.e. people who are stationary)the personal time of the stationary observer and the light speed traveler would diverge but this is not an effect of perception it is an effect of time dilation and that time dilation is measureable, therefore, objective and not subjective. This many worlds, subjective, quasi-solipitical understanding of time you seem to be employing is completely unverifiable, without justification and is not represented in any major school of thought. well, like i've said over 100 times before, when you or anyone else can show me what time is, then i can get on board with that... since NO ONE knows what time is, then it is just a perception with mathematical values that is very little other than a mathematical value |
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Time is observed as Quantifiable and constant throughout the universe, therefore, not subjective. If some people perceive the flow of time differently (like people who blackout a lot)their perception has no bearing on the objective flow of time. If a person were to travel near the speed of light from a certain perspective (i.e. people who are stationary)the personal time of the stationary observer and the light speed traveler would diverge but this is not an effect of perception it is an effect of time dilation and that time dilation is measureable, therefore, objective and not subjective. This many worlds, subjective, quasi-solipitical understanding of time you seem to be employing is completely unverifiable, without justification and is not represented in any major school of thought. well, like i've said over 100 times before, when you or anyone else can show me what time is, then i can get on board with that... since NO ONE knows what time is, then it is just a perception with mathematical values that is very little other than a mathematical value See Moe, that's where you are dropping the ball. In the GPS atomic clocks, it is the radioactive decay that is constant and what is measured to give the difference in the rate of time. Time isn't the constant, the radioactive decay is the constant. Time varies with speed and gravity. |
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Time is observed as Quantifiable and constant throughout the universe, therefore, not subjective. If some people perceive the flow of time differently (like people who blackout a lot)their perception has no bearing on the objective flow of time. If a person were to travel near the speed of light from a certain perspective (i.e. people who are stationary)the personal time of the stationary observer and the light speed traveler would diverge but this is not an effect of perception it is an effect of time dilation and that time dilation is measureable, therefore, objective and not subjective. This many worlds, subjective, quasi-solipitical understanding of time you seem to be employing is completely unverifiable, without justification and is not represented in any major school of thought. well, like i've said over 100 times before, when you or anyone else can show me what time is, then i can get on board with that... since NO ONE knows what time is, then it is just a perception with mathematical values that is very little other than a mathematical value See Moe, that's where you are dropping the ball. In the GPS atomic clocks, it is the radioactive decay that is constant and what is measured to give the difference in the rate of time. Time isn't the constant, the radioactive decay is the constant. Time varies with speed and gravity. yes, i agree, but i don't think thats time dilation, i think it's something else, like the vibrations i mentioned earlier... since nobody can say what time is, it's all just speculation... |
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Time is observed as Quantifiable and constant throughout the universe, therefore, not subjective. If some people perceive the flow of time differently (like people who blackout a lot)their perception has no bearing on the objective flow of time. If a person were to travel near the speed of light from a certain perspective (i.e. people who are stationary)the personal time of the stationary observer and the light speed traveler would diverge but this is not an effect of perception it is an effect of time dilation and that time dilation is measureable, therefore, objective and not subjective. This many worlds, subjective, quasi-solipitical understanding of time you seem to be employing is completely unverifiable, without justification and is not represented in any major school of thought. well, like i've said over 100 times before, when you or anyone else can show me what time is, then i can get on board with that... since NO ONE knows what time is, then it is just a perception with mathematical values that is very little other than a mathematical value See Moe, that's where you are dropping the ball. In the GPS atomic clocks, it is the radioactive decay that is constant and what is measured to give the difference in the rate of time. Time isn't the constant, the radioactive decay is the constant. Time varies with speed and gravity. yes, i agree, but i don't think thats time dilation, i think it's something else, like the vibrations i mentioned earlier... since nobody can say what time is, it's all just speculation... After over a hundred repetitions...You're about to make me a believer... 
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Time is observed as Quantifiable and constant throughout the universe, therefore, not subjective. If some people perceive the flow of time differently (like people who blackout a lot)their perception has no bearing on the objective flow of time. If a person were to travel near the speed of light from a certain perspective (i.e. people who are stationary)the personal time of the stationary observer and the light speed traveler would diverge but this is not an effect of perception it is an effect of time dilation and that time dilation is measureable, therefore, objective and not subjective. This many worlds, subjective, quasi-solipitical understanding of time you seem to be employing is completely unverifiable, without justification and is not represented in any major school of thought. well, like i've said over 100 times before, when you or anyone else can show me what time is, then i can get on board with that... since NO ONE knows what time is, then it is just a perception with mathematical values that is very little other than a mathematical value See Moe, that's where you are dropping the ball. In the GPS atomic clocks, it is the radioactive decay that is constant and what is measured to give the difference in the rate of time. Time isn't the constant, the radioactive decay is the constant. Time varies with speed and gravity. yes, i agree, but i don't think thats time dilation, i think it's something else, like the vibrations i mentioned earlier... since nobody can say what time is, it's all just speculation... After over a hundred repetitions...You're about to make me a believer...
i couldn't ask for a better believer!  
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Edited by
Pansytilly
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Fri 05/15/15 11:44 AM
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You might have to repeat your theory a few more times tho...and give a summary......lol....otherwise, i might mess up this thread with recycled questions....
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You might have to repeat your theory a few more times tho...and give a summary......lol....otherwise, i might mess up this thread with recycled questions.... . bigsmile:
you can ask anything, you can't mess up any thread... 
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