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Topic: Martial Arts
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Sat 10/06/07 02:20 AM
I fly over trees randomly on thursdays while I stalk strange people on wednesdays......Im a hella sl*t on fridays but who knows what the great master wants of me on saturdays!!!!!!!!!!devil devil devil laugh laugh

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Sat 10/06/07 03:44 AM
I agree with lulu..black belt is just the beginning...in Tang Soo Do (a very traditional korean style) there are 3 degrees of black belt...then 9 degrees of master...then assistant grand master...then grand master. As for charlieX...the belt system is not to say one person is any "better" then another...yes I have seen green belts beat blue...blue beat black many times.....it is not so much as "skill level" as it is in learning techniques and discipline and knowlege of the art form itself. I would agree that "some" schools will give out belts more quickly then others to keep parents and students "satisfied" with their progression...but these are usually the "americanized" version of martial art schools.

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Sat 10/06/07 01:41 PM
most tae kwon do schools say that they are masters, and like i said i went into one and got challenged, and beat him hands down and i do not hold any blackbelts. anyone who trains in true traditional styles, i have respect for. anyone who tells me they got their black belt in less than 2 years, i just shake my head at them. most of em wouldnt know what to do if someone got inside their legs and into hand range.

FlipFlops21's photo
Sun 10/07/07 10:36 AM
I hold a 2nd degree black belt in Shotokan.

thumper95's photo
Sun 10/07/07 12:01 PM
are you a senpai? and are you sharing your knowledge with others? that was the rule in the school i trained in

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Sun 10/07/07 12:04 PM
my discipline is Poekoelan Tjimindie Tu. A derivative of Pentjat Silat. It is an Indonesian/Malaysian martial art which has rankings by dragon sash.

I've been practicing since i was able to walk (around 2yrs old) and have acquired all the proper progressions, where I am now able to teach.

It has only been legally allowed to be taught in North America in the last 3 years, and is still not legally practiced in Canada (where I live) nor can it be practiced here.


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Sun 10/07/07 12:04 PM
Now, unlike most Martial Arts, Poekoelan is not a defensive discipline. It is an offensive discipline and can allow an individual to disable an opponent against over 150+ types of attacks, in all the different forms. The Japanese in the 2nd world war learned very quickly that fighting against the Indonesian underground meant death in 7 seconds. That it is a discipline designed to disable and end an opponent.

Poekoelan (Pu ku lan) is an Indonesian word, which means “series of blows with returning hands and feet;” Tjimindie means “beautiful flowing waters;” Tulen means “original.” Together, this describes the movement of this complete martial art, which flows gracefully and is effective in both combat and healing. The art is symbolized by the flexible, supple, yielding bamboo and an individualistic, beautiful rose that has thorns to protect itself. These symbols are set upon a black background, which signify the secrets and mysteries of the art.

The systems movements are of a nature akin to water and bamboo, fluid and circular, spiraling and continuous, graceful and whip-like. Movements are derived from four animals; the tiger, the crane, the monkey, and the snake. The use of these animals provide a set of dynamic dualities: soft/hard, fast/slow, small/large, fierce/playful, circular/angular and high/low. All of this is combined with a meditative, dance-like form, called the “crawl,” a movement that is completely unique to each practitioner.

It is as a matter of point, distinctly Indo-Dutch in origin and as a result the least known martial art of all the disciplines, as a result the most difficult to defend against. Every function and motion is fluid and invisible. Since each movement is distinctly unique to the individual it is also very difficult for two within the same discipline to spar off against each other. Since no two people move or flow with the same rhythm. Hence it is deadly when applied with focus, and when other disciplines have been integrated. It allows the individual practitioner to synchronize their movements to that of the attack, thus disabling any kata - or forms which are used in conjunction. I have a personal preference of breaking limbs, using the force of the attack to fracture itself when extended. But that’s because I probably need therapy heh… I also have a natural curve towards an individuals throat or back of the neck or any bending appendage, as they are the most easily captured when committed. The three advanced phases of the Tulen System are White Dragon, Silver Dragon and Gold Dragon. I was incidentally born in the year of the Dragon, and am a wood Dragon, and have always found the correlations between my training, and my birth astrology rather amusingly symbiotic. To give up a little secret here… when i’m dancing… many times i’m practicing forms which most don’t even realize… it is a very soft and fluid motion and does look like dancing :)


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Sun 10/07/07 12:05 PM
never heard of it but props on the life dedication.

LivingByBeats's photo
Sun 10/07/07 12:07 PM
there is only one school in the united states that currently teaches Poekoelan and it is watched closely by the Federal Government. You can probably google it.

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Sun 10/07/07 12:08 PM
ask anyone who studied shotokan, its not a self defensive art,, its almost all offense, most blocks are strikes at the same time, and most strikes are used to break or disable your opponet from fighting anymore. the fumi komi, or thigh stomp is meant to break your femur, while the shuto block or sword hand is meant to spiral break your arm. thats a hell of a block if you ask me.

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Sun 10/07/07 12:09 PM
i like to watch martial arts. if i was to learn and master one of the styles it would be jeet kwon doe.

LivingByBeats's photo
Sun 10/07/07 12:11 PM
I have also taken the generic forms of Hapkido (a Korean Martial Art taught to the Korean Military) and Jeet Kendo or Jeet Kune Do - depending to whom you speak. I have a tendency to integrate - instinctively - Jeet Kune Do and Poekoelan as I find they are symbiotic in form and function.

I'm currently preparing to enter Sambo at the beginning of the new year.

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Sun 10/07/07 12:14 PM
thats why i like shotokan, its set up to be able to adapt to anything that comes at you. its a hard style, but it becomes flowing with time and training. it also entails juso ju juitsu and akido. master sensai funokoshi was very close with dr jigro kano who founded judo, and judo is ju jutisu with rules.

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Thu 10/18/07 09:57 PM
I've been doing kendo for a few years

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