Topic: Looking for some help.
green407's photo
Thu 10/09/14 05:35 PM

"How can I get what I want and still not have to put myself out there?"


this is essentially what I wanted.

mrld_ii's photo
Thu 10/09/14 05:44 PM


"How can I get what I want and still not have to put myself out there?"


this is essentially what I wanted.



Yeah...we're ALL kinda getting that, NOW.


What threw us off was that YOU, YOURSELF, had kinda indicated you'd learned your lesson, because YOU, YOURSELF, wrote this in your OP:


...finding out that she has a boy friend made me quite bitter inside, because I didn't make my intentions clear...




Continue to keep quiet, continue to be bitter, continue to be pissed because another woman chose another guy over you.


~pfffffttttt~ You will not be the first - nor the last - man to blame all the stupid women for making men bitter and unloving.



Start a thread about it, even...make the topic something about how women never go for The Good Guys but always fall for The Bad Boys. If you set it to a catchy tune, we'll all sing along


'cuz, by now, we know all the lyrics by heart.


frustrated



green407's photo
Thu 10/09/14 06:00 PM
frustrated

hairbee's photo
Fri 10/10/14 12:21 AM
Machiavellian

metalwing's photo
Fri 10/10/14 03:44 AM
Or ... you could pinch her on the butt! ... that might work.

green407's photo
Fri 10/10/14 03:55 AM

Machiavellian


in what way?

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Fri 10/10/14 04:09 AM
I'm thinking, Green, that maybe you are confusing two things, real love and feelings you developed out of dependency. You needed an anchor in troubled times, she was that anchor. But that's not the same as true love. Like Stockholm syndrome, ppl can make themselves fall in love with someone to survive / feel better etc. Your feelings will still be intense, but not necessarily real love.
Based on your story, I'm thinking maybe this is what happened. Not saying it is so, just casting a different light on it, the first thing that came to mind when I read your story.
flowerforyou

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Fri 10/10/14 01:06 PM
Edited by green407 on Fri 10/10/14 01:17 PM



....never mind. Don't tell her. frustrated

Well this sounds contradictory.


I'm sure fleta's telling you what you want to hear...

...since you've put up such resistance to *every*one who's told what you DON'T want to hear.


Yes...your (self-admitted) social awkwardness/uncomfortableness aside, I still stand by what I'd originally posted...and what others have echoed. And yes, you should include "that part"...IF you were truthful about your feelings in your opening post. IF you feel that strongly about her and IF it doesn't work out with the current guy she's seeing and IF you're still available,

why wouldn't you want to try again, when the timing's right???



In your OP, you appeared to be asking "What's the best way to handle this?", not "How can I get what I want and still not have to put myself out there?"


Sorry...life - and especially love - doesn't work that way. As you've already discovered, which is why you're in this predicament,

remember?





I will whine and complain, make excuses, but in the end I'll do the right thing. I do apologize if I miss lead you, but please don't tell me what I want to hear, tell me what I NEED to hear.


And yes CrytalFairy, this is probably what happened, my feelings for her are out of dependance. I know it's not love,but I hoped one day it could be.


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Fri 10/10/14 01:14 PM




....never mind. Don't tell her. frustrated

Well this sounds contradictory.


I'm sure fleta's telling you what you want to hear...

...since you've put up such resistance to *every*one who's told what you DON'T want to hear.


Yes...your (self-admitted) social awkwardness/uncomfortableness aside, I still stand by what I'd originally posted...and what others have echoed. And yes, you should include "that part"...IF you were truthful about your feelings in your opening post. IF you feel that strongly about her and IF it doesn't work out with the current guy she's seeing and IF you're still available,

why wouldn't you want to try again, when the timing's right???



In your OP, you appeared to be asking "What's the best way to handle this?", not "How can I get what I want and still not have to put myself out there?"


Sorry...life - and especially love - doesn't work that way. As you've already discovered, which is why you're in this predicament,

remember?

I will whine and complain, make excuses, but in the end I'll do the right thing. I do apologize if I miss lead you, but please don't tell me what I want to hear, tell me what I NEED to hear.


green407's photo
Fri 10/10/14 01:20 PM
Who knows, maybe I just wanted a place to vent.frustrated

green407's photo
Tue 10/28/14 06:32 PM

So, I told her today.
I told her everything. I told her about my friends passing, how I developed a dependance, how I could not be friends with her, how I couldn't be anything with her except dependent on her. I don't know if this was right or wrong, I just know she gave me a hug and walked away.

no photo
Tue 10/28/14 06:47 PM

First off it is about a girl.
It's difficult to explain without sounding like a sap.

I don't know if I can remain friends with her. She (I'll refer to her as J.) and I have only been friends for about 4 months with the intentions of dating. About a month after we met I lost a friend of mine in an auto accident. So I used J as a distraction to help get me through the loss of my friend, and I have become quite attached to her. I however never told her of my friends passing. I recently asked her out and found that she "(I) recently acquired a boy friend" her words not mine. finding out that she has a boy friend made me quite bitter inside, because I didn't make my intentions clear. I have tried to remain friends with her, but it is difficult given my feelings for her.

Some sound input on this matter would be appreciated.





If she has a man in her life its best to move on and find someone else. If she was single as in no man in her life It would have been a different scenario but its not and its also not some romantic movie where this or that could happen, its a hard cold reality. Best to move on my friend and find someone else.

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Tue 10/28/14 07:00 PM


So, I told her today.
I told her everything. I told her about my friends passing, how I developed a dependance, how I could not be friends with her, how I couldn't be anything with her except dependent on her. I don't know if this was right or wrong, I just know she gave me a hug and walked away.


Sorry Green. But at least you planted a seed. flowerforyou

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Tue 10/28/14 07:27 PM

First off it is about a girl.
It's difficult to explain without sounding like a sap.

I don't know if I can remain friends with her. She (I'll refer to her as J.) and I have only been friends for about 4 months with the intentions of dating. About a month after we met I lost a friend of mine in an auto accident. So I used J as a distraction to help get me through the loss of my friend, and I have become quite attached to her. I however never told her of my friends passing. I recently asked her out and found that she "(I) recently acquired a boy friend" her words not mine. finding out that she has a boy friend made me quite bitter inside, because I didn't make my intentions clear. I have tried to remain friends with her, but it is difficult given my feelings for her.

Some sound input on this matter would be appreciated.


Take time away from her. If you guys are gonna be friends or more then in time it'll happen. But right now it is obviously too difficult for you to keep in contact with her. Never be afraid to do what's best for you and don't kick yourself for not acting (sooner) on asking her out. It was a risk you took and it didn't work out. May sound harsh but that is life. Time to move along. Also....sorry for your friends passing.

green407's photo
Tue 10/28/14 07:38 PM

I'm thinking, Green, that maybe you are confusing two things, real love and feelings you developed out of dependency. You needed an anchor in troubled times, she was that anchor. But that's not the same as true love. Like Stockholm syndrome, ppl can make themselves fall in love with someone to survive / feel better etc. Your feelings will still be intense, but not necessarily real love.
Based on your story, I'm thinking maybe this is what happened. Not saying it is so, just casting a different light on it, the first thing that came to mind when I read your story.
flowerforyou


This is what happened, I needed an anchor and she was there. I developed a dependency on her like a drug (bad analogy but it's true), so I told her everything.


So, I told her today.
I told her everything. I told her about my friends passing, how I developed a dependance, how I could not be friends with her, how I couldn't be anything with her except dependent on her. I don't know if this was right or wrong, I just know she gave me a hug and walked away.


My intentions here were not to plant a seed, not to guilt trip her, not to gt any sort of reaction from her. But to tell her why I'm not going to be talking to and hanging out with her anymore.

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Tue 10/28/14 07:40 PM


I'm thinking, Green, that maybe you are confusing two things, real love and feelings you developed out of dependency. You needed an anchor in troubled times, she was that anchor. But that's not the same as true love. Like Stockholm syndrome, ppl can make themselves fall in love with someone to survive / feel better etc. Your feelings will still be intense, but not necessarily real love.
Based on your story, I'm thinking maybe this is what happened. Not saying it is so, just casting a different light on it, the first thing that came to mind when I read your story.
flowerforyou


This is what happened, I needed an anchor and she was there. I developed a dependency on her like a drug (bad analogy but it's true), so I told her everything.


So, I told her today.
I told her everything. I told her about my friends passing, how I developed a dependance, how I could not be friends with her, how I couldn't be anything with her except dependent on her. I don't know if this was right or wrong, I just know she gave me a hug and walked away.


My intentions here were not to plant a seed, not to guilt trip her, not to gt any sort of reaction from her. But to tell her why I'm not going to be talking to and hanging out with her anymore.

flowerforyou

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Tue 10/28/14 09:20 PM


I'm thinking, Green, that maybe you are confusing two things, real love and feelings you developed out of dependency. You needed an anchor in troubled times, she was that anchor. But that's not the same as true love. Like Stockholm syndrome, ppl can make themselves fall in love with someone to survive / feel better etc. Your feelings will still be intense, but not necessarily real love.
Based on your story, I'm thinking maybe this is what happened. Not saying it is so, just casting a different light on it, the first thing that came to mind when I read your story.
flowerforyou


This is what happened, I needed an anchor and she was there. I developed a dependency on her like a drug (bad analogy but it's true), so I told her everything.


So, I told her today.
I told her everything. I told her about my friends passing, how I developed a dependance, how I could not be friends with her, how I couldn't be anything with her except dependent on her. I don't know if this was right or wrong, I just know she gave me a hug and walked away.


My intentions here were not to plant a seed, not to guilt trip her, not to gt any sort of reaction from her. But to tell her why I'm not going to be talking to and hanging out with her anymore.

shame you said anything to her. for you to expect a woman to be cool with you being so shallow...well hindsight is twenty twenty

life isn't always about one's personal feelings. she was being a friend, and you couldn't give back, because your feelings were hurt that she got a boyfriend

at least, hope you learned that relationships are two way streets. heck sometimes you end up losing more often than gaining in real relationships(parent/child for example)but the relationship is worth more than the few times you come out on top

best not to try and fix this. let it go, and next time you find comfort in someone (especially someone of the opposite sex) put yourself in their shoes before you make an emotional decision just because you want to feel better. godspeed, bulldog

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Wed 10/29/14 07:11 AM


My intentions here were not to plant a seed, not to guilt trip her, not to gt any sort of reaction from her. But to tell her why I'm not going to be talking to and hanging out with her anymore.



I don't know why so many missed this part. It was in your original post, which is why I'd said what I had in my first reply to you.

Regardless of any other factors, she was a good friend to you when you needed a good friend; if for only that reason, she deserved to know the real reason why you no longer wish to be in contact with her.


Best of luck to you. drinks



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Wed 10/29/14 07:21 AM

shame you said anything to her. for you to expect a woman to be cool with you being so shallow...well hindsight is twenty twenty

life isn't always about one's personal feelings. she was being a friend, and you couldn't give back, because your feelings were hurt that she got a boyfriend

at least, hope you learned that relationships are two way streets. heck sometimes you end up losing more often than gaining in real relationships(parent/child for example)but the relationship is worth more than the few times you come out on top

best not to try and fix this. let it go, and next time you find comfort in someone (especially someone of the opposite sex) put yourself in their shoes before you make an emotional decision just because you want to feel better. godspeed, bulldog


Again I feel I haven't made myself clear.

I did not expect anything from her, no reaction, no words, no hugs, NOTHING. The reason I told her this was to explain why she and I cannot be friends, and that I was not going to be talking, texting, e-mailing, visiting, hanging out with her anymore.

Yes relationships are a 2 way street, and I defiantly took more then I gave.

Any you may will say that I am shallow, and that's ok, but I needed to do this for me, for my well being. Because it's not healthy for me, and it's not fair to her or her boyfriend.


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Wed 10/29/14 07:24 AM



My intentions here were not to plant a seed, not to guilt trip her, not to gt any sort of reaction from her. But to tell her why I'm not going to be talking to and hanging out with her anymore.



I don't know why so many missed this part. It was in your original post, which is why I'd said what I had in my first reply to you.

Regardless of any other factors, she was a good friend to you when you needed a good friend; if for only that reason, she deserved to know the real reason why you no longer wish to be in contact with her.


Best of luck to you. drinks





Thank you.