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maybe all the wars , famines , terror in the name of him .... are a good evidence that he is still learning how to be a god ! When we look around us, we can see a lot if people wanst able to have a good haircut..does it mean that this s also a good evidence that barbers are still learning how to b a barber? Sort of, sort of not. In your example, you're insinuating God has made a mistake somewhere, weather it's his fault or not, you're still insinuating he made a mistake. Wars, Famine, Terror, Robbery, Murder, and all the rest are not God's doing, it's called free will. PEOPLE rob, PEOPLE murder, PEOPLE cause wars, PEOPLE allow other's to go hungry. Again, God gave us free will and this world works off of cause and effect. No matter how small of an action, whatever you do today, effects the world tomorrow. I agree cowboy...bible starts wth the fact that God built free choice into human race at the beginning..some have tried to argue that God should have created people with freedom who would always choose to do good..but this s just like saying that God should have created a square triangle..lol.. ? Not sure bout your square triangle lol. But life would be about pointless and meaningless if we were "programmed". There would be no need for a "judgement" why would one be "programmed" into sinning against God when God hates sin? |
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maybe all the wars , famines , terror in the name of him .... are a good evidence that he is still learning how to be a god ! When we look around us, we can see a lot if people wanst able to have a good haircut..does it mean that this s also a good evidence that barbers are still learning how to b a barber? Some good Barbers in the ME right now! They'll give you a Haircut all the way don to your Neck for Free,no Charge! |
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maybe all the wars , famines , terror in the name of him .... are a good evidence that he is still learning how to be a god ! When we look around us, we can see a lot if people wanst able to have a good haircut..does it mean that this s also a good evidence that barbers are still learning how to b a barber? Sort of, sort of not. In your example, you're insinuating God has made a mistake somewhere, weather it's his fault or not, you're still insinuating he made a mistake. Wars, Famine, Terror, Robbery, Murder, and all the rest are not God's doing, it's called free will. PEOPLE rob, PEOPLE murder, PEOPLE cause wars, PEOPLE allow other's to go hungry. Again, God gave us free will and this world works off of cause and effect. No matter how small of an action, whatever you do today, effects the world tomorrow. I agree cowboy...bible starts wth the fact that God built free choice into human race at the beginning..some have tried to argue that God should have created people with freedom who would always choose to do good..but this s just like saying that God should have created a square triangle..lol.. ? Not sure bout your square triangle lol. But life would be about pointless and meaningless if we were "programmed". There would be no need for a "judgement" why would one be "programmed" into sinning against God when God hates sin? Free will and conscious thinking should be proof enough that there is a God. We are the only "species" on the planet that has bout those. And this can be seen through the progress man has made in this world in comparison to the rest of the lifeforms on this planet. If we evolved from a lower organism on the food chain, ALL that lower organism would have evolved and would no longer be in existence. Take apes for instance. Not sure if people still believe we evolved from apes. But if we would have, ALL the apes would have evolved and there would no longer be "apes". Now "apes" is just an example here, this same thing would apply to any and all lower species we could have possible been thought to have evolved from. |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this He wrote the DNA to do just that, and is even verified in his first instruction to us. Genesis 1:28 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this It s possible to b a science consistent scientific thinker and a committed believer n jesus christ and the bible..there s nothing n the bible that necessarily contradicts any area of scientific consensus..we should note first of all that the bibles worldview s n harmony wth the first principle of science n that both believe n the uniformity of cause and effect n a real material world.. |
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CowboyGH
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Wed 09/03/14 06:36 AM
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this He wrote the DNA to do just that, and is even verified in his first instruction to us. Genesis 1:28 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Who is he talking to you ask? I can't answer that question precise as no names or specific entities are mentioned. But when the word "God" is used, depending on the context doesn't always have to mean one entity. Genesis 1:26 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Let US make man in OUR image after OUR likeness.. John 10:30 30 I and my Father are one. John 17:21 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 1 John 1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. |
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Can you show me scientific proof that god exists. .. |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this It s possible to b a science consistent scientific thinker and a committed believer n jesus christ and the bible..there s nothing n the bible that necessarily contradicts any area of scientific consensus..we should note first of all that the bibles worldview s n harmony wth the first principle of science n that both believe n the uniformity of cause and effect n a real material world.. Oh but most to all science is "taken" on faith. Do you personally know for a fact we are made up of cells from your own personal investigation through microscopes and other instruments? Or do you just take what the scientists tell you as fact? Just taking it as fact because they said so, is taking it on faith, just as we put faith in the scriptures of the Holy bible to be true. Same difference. Your Argument is fallacious! |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this It s possible to b a science consistent scientific thinker and a committed believer n jesus christ and the bible..there s nothing n the bible that necessarily contradicts any area of scientific consensus..we should note first of all that the bibles worldview s n harmony wth the first principle of science n that both believe n the uniformity of cause and effect n a real material world.. Oh but most to all science is "taken" on faith. Do you personally know for a fact we are made up of cells from your own personal investigation through microscopes and other instruments? Or do you just take what the scientists tell you as fact? Just taking it as fact because they said so, is taking it on faith, just as we put faith in the scriptures of the Holy bible to be true. Same difference. |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this It s possible to b a science consistent scientific thinker and a committed believer n jesus christ and the bible..there s nothing n the bible that necessarily contradicts any area of scientific consensus..we should note first of all that the bibles worldview s n harmony wth the first principle of science n that both believe n the uniformity of cause and effect n a real material world.. Nope,that is NOT possible! |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this It s possible to b a science consistent scientific thinker and a committed believer n jesus christ and the bible..there s nothing n the bible that necessarily contradicts any area of scientific consensus..we should note first of all that the bibles worldview s n harmony wth the first principle of science n that both believe n the uniformity of cause and effect n a real material world.. Oh but most to all science is "taken" on faith. Do you personally know for a fact we are made up of cells from your own personal investigation through microscopes and other instruments? Or do you just take what the scientists tell you as fact? Just taking it as fact because they said so, is taking it on faith, just as we put faith in the scriptures of the Holy bible to be true. Same difference. Your Argument is fallacious! No sir, Not saying science is wrong. Just used it as an example in if you don't personally do the experiments yourself to find the results but instead believe another person's results is taking it on faith to be true. For again you didn't personally find that knowledge yourself first hand, you're believing a second party. And believing a second party is taking whatever it is in question on faith. |
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Can you show me scientific proof that god exists. .. and THAT is Scientific Proof? |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this It s possible to b a science consistent scientific thinker and a committed believer n jesus christ and the bible..there s nothing n the bible that necessarily contradicts any area of scientific consensus..we should note first of all that the bibles worldview s n harmony wth the first principle of science n that both believe n the uniformity of cause and effect n a real material world.. Oh but most to all science is "taken" on faith. Do you personally know for a fact we are made up of cells from your own personal investigation through microscopes and other instruments? Or do you just take what the scientists tell you as fact? Just taking it as fact because they said so, is taking it on faith, just as we put faith in the scriptures of the Holy bible to be true. Same difference. My questions were derogatory lol. They were not specific lol. So you've been to space? You've personally walked on the moon to find that the moon actually has little gravity in comparison to planet Earth. Again, these are just for example purposes to make a point. Ok so you've done the insemination yourself, but that's just one example of the vast area taken on faith. That's ALL that was even mentioned for. Not debating which one is more accurate, not saying science is wrong, not turning this into a science discussion. Was DEROGATORY for example purposes lol. |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this It s possible to b a science consistent scientific thinker and a committed believer n jesus christ and the bible..there s nothing n the bible that necessarily contradicts any area of scientific consensus..we should note first of all that the bibles worldview s n harmony wth the first principle of science n that both believe n the uniformity of cause and effect n a real material world.. Oh but most to all science is "taken" on faith. Do you personally know for a fact we are made up of cells from your own personal investigation through microscopes and other instruments? Or do you just take what the scientists tell you as fact? Just taking it as fact because they said so, is taking it on faith, just as we put faith in the scriptures of the Holy bible to be true. Same difference. Your Argument is fallacious! No process of biological evolution could ever lead to the formation of a spiritual entity that would survive the death of the physical organisms.. we cannot beleive n a personally conscious afterlife unless we admit that there s a nonbiological, non material dimensions to human..this non material entity could only derive from a non material source: God himself..this s directly and explicitly taught n the bible n genesis 2:7..of course the question of whether humans have a spirit s not an issue that science can speak to, since such a spirit s not measurable or observable by material measures.. |
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Edited by
m3k4y
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Wed 09/03/14 07:06 AM
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Can you show me scientific proof that god exists. .. and THAT is Scientific Proof? U havnt read the book of genesis yet sir..my proof s there.. |
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It has often been noted that a proof of God would be fatal to religion: a God susceptible of proof would have to be finite and limited; He would be one entity among others within the universe, not a mystic omnipotence transcending science and reality. What nourishes the spirit of religion is not proof, but faith, i.e., the undercutting of man's mind. Leonard Peikoff, Maybe You're Wrong The Objectivist Forum, April 1981, This makes more sense than the remainder of the posts combined.... |
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maybe all the wars , famines , terror in the name of him .... are a good evidence that he is still learning how to be a god ! When we look around us, we can see a lot if people wanst able to have a good haircut..does it mean that this s also a good evidence that barbers are still learning how to b a barber? Some good Barbers in the ME right now! They'll give you a Haircut all the way don to your Neck for Free,no Charge! the best place to have such hair cut .... it's where the whole mess of religions started |
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Basic biology .. Sperm fertilises egg and life is conceived .. What is gods part in this It s possible to b a science consistent scientific thinker and a committed believer n jesus christ and the bible..there s nothing n the bible that necessarily contradicts any area of scientific consensus..we should note first of all that the bibles worldview s n harmony wth the first principle of science n that both believe n the uniformity of cause and effect n a real material world.. Oh but most to all science is "taken" on faith. Do you personally know for a fact we are made up of cells from your own personal investigation through microscopes and other instruments? Or do you just take what the scientists tell you as fact? Just taking it as fact because they said so, is taking it on faith, just as we put faith in the scriptures of the Holy bible to be true. Same difference. My questions were derogatory lol. They were not specific lol. So you've been to space? You've personally walked on the moon to find that the moon actually has little gravity in comparison to planet Earth. Again, these are just for example purposes to make a point. Ok so you've done the insemination yourself, but that's just one example of the vast area taken on faith. That's ALL that was even mentioned for. Not debating which one is more accurate, not saying science is wrong, not turning this into a science discussion. Was DEROGATORY for example purposes lol. There is never proof for everyone on anything. Proof is perspective. One may say this points that way, while another says it points in an entirely different direction. You want proof, you have to personally search for it and decide for yourself if it proves that which the proof is needed for. |
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If I do not believe in god .. I certainly don't believe in an after life.. When you die .. You die .. yup , a painful fact , but most of the people don't want to believe in ... it's a part of the human ancient wish to live forever |
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Edited by
Ɔʎɹɐx
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Wed 09/03/14 12:28 PM
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Can you show me scientific proof that god exists. .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDp7pkEcJVQ |
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