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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd..
 .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much..  The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay
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Our all loving god also allows us to learn from our own mistakes the best lessons learned, but he is also there to pick us up afterward and comfort us, this we have to be content with. I know that I am content knowing that whatever is going to happen is caused by ourselves but that he is keeping an eye on us.
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.... this is my read on this, and i have done no little research on this very subject..,but it is only my opinion... God doesent understand sin. He simply cannot comprehend why we would not happily follow his laws, which the bible says "are not grevious". yet we steal. we kill each other, ect.... the only way was to send his son, Jesus, to die for us.. Now Jesus , because of his own suffering, has earned the right to save us, if we only accept him and humble ourselves before him. God either cant or wont save us, but Jesus can.
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Hi there guys..glad to see u here..But y jesus.?y not him..?hes the father ryt?and a loving father..what made me asked this question s that I assumed that all parents cannot dare to watch thier kids suffer a lot, but how come God did.?
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Edited by
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay Shalom. Yahshua chose to let himself be an example. Ever since adam and eve man has went against his father. Yahshua came to show us we do not need any man to show us how to come to eternal life. he showed us believing in Yahweh our father that all things are possible. Yahshua proved this to us by Being " the 1st born of the dead" by doing his fathers will as we are told. Yahshua being our example. He said no better friend does a man have than one who would die for his friends. Yahshua calls us his friends. The bible is all about family. if you will read it and keep all things that you read in mind how would I treat and also what is best for my children at the tip of your tongue, you will find out the bible reads very differently than you may of been taught. It is a lesson for us to find the deeper meanings of life. Yahshua showed us that when we obey our parents they only or should at least have our Heart at our best interest. We let our children learn by example so they know themselves. Yet we know if they would just listen they would not endure so many thing we went through. The same with the scriptures of Life. It is a family manual to guides us, protect us, warn us of what is right and what is wrong. we just have to listen and desire to want to learn. That's when the spirit will guide you when you desire to learn. Yahshua chose to obey believing he would 3 days and nights later rise from the dead. Just as he said he would as the sign of Jonah which is the only sign he gave he was the promiced one of Yahweh. Take care and May the Grace of Yahweh fill you with True Shalom |
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I hope u guys wont get me wrong..I do believe n God..that he s my creator..I just cant help asking questions about him..some close friends and family did answer this for me before but still I wasnt satisfied by their answers, its not that their answers were wrong..I know own opinions could never b wrong..feels like something deep within me telling me that God probably has a reason y, about it..and thats what I want to know..
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay Shalom. Yahshua chose to let himself be an example. Ever since adam and eve man has went against his father. Yahshua came to show us we do not need any man to show us how to come to eternal life. he showed us believing in Yahweh our father that all things are possible. Yahshua proved this to us by Being " the 1st born of the dead" by doing his fathers will as we are told. Yahshua being our example. He said no better friend does a man have than one who would die for his friends. Yahshua calls us his friends. The bible is all about family. if you will read it and keep all things that you read in mind how would I treat and also what is best for my children at the tip of your tongue, you will find out the bible reads very differently than you may of been taught. It is a lesson for us to find the deeper meanings of life. Yahshua showed us that when we obey our parents they only or should at least have our Heart at our best interest. We let our children learn by example so they know themselves. Yet we know if they would just listen they would not endure so many thing we went through. The same with the scriptures of Life. It is a family manual to guides us, protect us, warn us of what is right and what is wrong. we just have to listen and desire to want to learn. That's when the spirit will guide you when you desire to learn. Yahshua chose to obey believing he would 3 days and nights later rise from the dead. Just as he said he would as the sign of Jonah which is the only sign he gave he was the promiced one of Yahweh. Take care and May the Grace of Yahweh fill you with True Shalom Hi there..:) thank u for that..anyway so the bottom line there s that God knows that he can take the life of jesus back thats y he let it happen..? He let jesus died bcos he knows that he can rise him up from the dead..? |
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Edited by
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GOD.. I think God is like a pyromaniac..
he just goes around with a box of matches... lighting fires everywhere. . the initial spark. so to speak.. he doesn't necessarily stick around. to see if the building burns to the ground... it's not about that.. it's all about lighting the fire.. if the building burns to the ground are not.. is not really important to him... I think he just enjoys lighting ..the fire...... or perhaps he's like an absentee parent.. he just stops by once in awhile.. to throw some groceries in the house. and to make sure ,we haven't burnt the house to the ground.. and then on the way out, he just simply says... play nice !!try not to kill each other.. . oh and will somebody please !cut the grass and get this house cleaned up.. after all I don't live here you do... .... yep he's a pyromaniac / absentee parent.... that's our dad..lmao |
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Edited by
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I hope u guys wont get me wrong..I do believe n God..that he s my creator..I just cant help asking questions about him..some close friends and family did answer this for me before but still I wasnt satisfied by their answers, its not that their answers were wrong..I know own opinions could never b wrong..feels like something deep within me telling me that God probably has a reason y, about it..and thats what I want to know.. my first answer is being comfortable with not having or needing or being made to know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING my second answer is that God is not mortal and it would not be serving HIS purpose (remember that we serve his purpose , not the other way around) to become mortal to prove something to us my third answer is that his Son is the perfect example of serving HIS purpose,,, putting Him first, having faith in Him The son was an example to us of what devotion to God truly is, God himself would not be that same kind of example of devotion to himself (that indeed would just be selfishness) and 4th, of course , God could have just ended us all whenever he chose and our sins were worthy of such an end,,,,but allowing his own son to come and take that end(albeit temporary), opened the door for a simple door to everlasting life instead remember that the customs and traditions of that time used sacrifice for many purposes,, until the final one of Jesus eliminated that requirement,,, |
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay Shalom. Yahshua chose to let himself be an example. Ever since adam and eve man has went against his father. Yahshua came to show us we do not need any man to show us how to come to eternal life. he showed us believing in Yahweh our father that all things are possible. Yahshua proved this to us by Being " the 1st born of the dead" by doing his fathers will as we are told. Yahshua being our example. He said no better friend does a man have than one who would die for his friends. Yahshua calls us his friends. The bible is all about family. if you will read it and keep all things that you read in mind how would I treat and also what is best for my children at the tip of your tongue, you will find out the bible reads very differently than you may of been taught. It is a lesson for us to find the deeper meanings of life. Yahshua showed us that when we obey our parents they only or should at least have our Heart at our best interest. We let our children learn by example so they know themselves. Yet we know if they would just listen they would not endure so many thing we went through. The same with the scriptures of Life. It is a family manual to guides us, protect us, warn us of what is right and what is wrong. we just have to listen and desire to want to learn. That's when the spirit will guide you when you desire to learn. Yahshua chose to obey believing he would 3 days and nights later rise from the dead. Just as he said he would as the sign of Jonah which is the only sign he gave he was the promiced one of Yahweh. Take care and May the Grace of Yahweh fill you with True Shalom Hi there..:) thank u for that..anyway so the bottom line there s that God knows that he can take the life of jesus back thats y he let it happen..? He let jesus died bcos he knows that he can rise him up from the dead..? of course Yahweh knew he could rise him from the dead. It was Yahshua's faith in his father as a child who listens who gave us the pure knowledge that Yahweh will rise us from the dead. The curse of the Law was death the Blessing is eternal life. Yahshua being the perfect sacrifice took away the death penalty that came from Adam and Eve. Yahshua is even called the 2nd adam. Yahweh never wanted the sacrifice of animals but a broken and contrite heart. A heart that loves him as a father child relationship where a child puts all their faith in their parents. That's why we must be born again. To come to him as a child. every parent has seen the faith of a 2 or 3 year old where they know their parents will protect them. It is family. Yahweh has been since the beginning we are babes very small children compared to him. Yahshua showed this total faith in his fathers mercy and love for him as an example to us of his love for us also |
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay That is a very good question. I have wondered about that for years. The only answer that partially satisfies me is, "sin is so destructive to God's plan for humanity, it has to be wiped out" We might think "what's the big deal?" Any sin is a big deal in the long range plans God has for humanity. |
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Edited by
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay That is a very good question. I have wondered about that for years. The only answer that partially satisfies me is, "sin is so destructive to God's plan for humanity, it has to be wiped out" We might think "what's the big deal?" Any sin is a big deal in the long range plans God has for humanity. The world as weve all know s still filled with sinners after that sacrifices God has made..does it mean that jesus has to die again and again for our sins..? |
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay Shalom. Yahshua chose to let himself be an example. Ever since adam and eve man has went against his father. Yahshua came to show us we do not need any man to show us how to come to eternal life. he showed us believing in Yahweh our father that all things are possible. Yahshua proved this to us by Being " the 1st born of the dead" by doing his fathers will as we are told. Yahshua being our example. He said no better friend does a man have than one who would die for his friends. Yahshua calls us his friends. The bible is all about family. if you will read it and keep all things that you read in mind how would I treat and also what is best for my children at the tip of your tongue, you will find out the bible reads very differently than you may of been taught. It is a lesson for us to find the deeper meanings of life. Yahshua showed us that when we obey our parents they only or should at least have our Heart at our best interest. We let our children learn by example so they know themselves. Yet we know if they would just listen they would not endure so many thing we went through. The same with the scriptures of Life. It is a family manual to guides us, protect us, warn us of what is right and what is wrong. we just have to listen and desire to want to learn. That's when the spirit will guide you when you desire to learn. Yahshua chose to obey believing he would 3 days and nights later rise from the dead. Just as he said he would as the sign of Jonah which is the only sign he gave he was the promiced one of Yahweh. Take care and May the Grace of Yahweh fill you with True Shalom Hi there..:) thank u for that..anyway so the bottom line there s that God knows that he can take the life of jesus back thats y he let it happen..? He let jesus died bcos he knows that he can rise him up from the dead..? of course Yahweh knew he could rise him from the dead. It was Yahshua's faith in his father as a child who listens who gave us the pure knowledge that Yahweh will rise us from the dead. The curse of the Law was death the Blessing is eternal life. Yahshua being the perfect sacrifice took away the death penalty that came from Adam and Eve. Yahshua is even called the 2nd adam. Yahweh never wanted the sacrifice of animals but a broken and contrite heart. A heart that loves him as a father child relationship where a child puts all their faith in their parents. That's why we must be born again. To come to him as a child. every parent has seen the faith of a 2 or 3 year old where they know their parents will protect them. It is family. Yahweh has been since the beginning we are babes very small children compared to him. Yahshua showed this total faith in his fathers mercy and love for him as an example to us of his love for us also Ohh..I see..,God's sacrifices has wasted cos people kp commiting sins..ryt..?so whats the best thing to do to b save..?follow whats written n the bible..is it..? |
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay Shalom. Yahshua chose to let himself be an example. Ever since adam and eve man has went against his father. Yahshua came to show us we do not need any man to show us how to come to eternal life. he showed us believing in Yahweh our father that all things are possible. Yahshua proved this to us by Being " the 1st born of the dead" by doing his fathers will as we are told. Yahshua being our example. He said no better friend does a man have than one who would die for his friends. Yahshua calls us his friends. The bible is all about family. if you will read it and keep all things that you read in mind how would I treat and also what is best for my children at the tip of your tongue, you will find out the bible reads very differently than you may of been taught. It is a lesson for us to find the deeper meanings of life. Yahshua showed us that when we obey our parents they only or should at least have our Heart at our best interest. We let our children learn by example so they know themselves. Yet we know if they would just listen they would not endure so many thing we went through. The same with the scriptures of Life. It is a family manual to guides us, protect us, warn us of what is right and what is wrong. we just have to listen and desire to want to learn. That's when the spirit will guide you when you desire to learn. Yahshua chose to obey believing he would 3 days and nights later rise from the dead. Just as he said he would as the sign of Jonah which is the only sign he gave he was the promiced one of Yahweh. Take care and May the Grace of Yahweh fill you with True Shalom Hi there..:) thank u for that..anyway so the bottom line there s that God knows that he can take the life of jesus back thats y he let it happen..? He let jesus died bcos he knows that he can rise him up from the dead..? of course Yahweh knew he could rise him from the dead. It was Yahshua's faith in his father as a child who listens who gave us the pure knowledge that Yahweh will rise us from the dead. The curse of the Law was death the Blessing is eternal life. Yahshua being the perfect sacrifice took away the death penalty that came from Adam and Eve. Yahshua is even called the 2nd adam. Yahweh never wanted the sacrifice of animals but a broken and contrite heart. A heart that loves him as a father child relationship where a child puts all their faith in their parents. That's why we must be born again. To come to him as a child. every parent has seen the faith of a 2 or 3 year old where they know their parents will protect them. It is family. Yahweh has been since the beginning we are babes very small children compared to him. Yahshua showed this total faith in his fathers mercy and love for him as an example to us of his love for us also Ohh..I see..,God's sacrifices has wasted cos people kp commiting sins..ryt..?so whats the best thing to do to b save..?follow whats written n the bible..is it..? do the best u can. Most people know right from wrong |
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? Because Jesus is our God, Jesus is the one whom created us, he's our judge. What better gift then for the judge to take the criminals sentence for them? He didn't judge us to be innocent, nor did he just let us off the hook. He took our punishment and died for us, spent his three days in hell so we would never taste that and would have ever lasting life regardless if we fail, God made us winners taking our punishment for us. |
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Hi everyone..this s my first thread ever..pheww..!!feels like talking on stage in front of the crowd.. .. To start with, ive learned from the bible since I was little.and I came to fully understand it during my teenage years..my parents use to sent me n a charismatic siminars, evangelical projects, etc..I was a member of a youth for christ n the Philippines.unbelievable..?I know..hehe..hence that questions about God kp popping n my mind and its left unanswered until now..this urge me to post this thread here, hoping u guys can offer me ur brilliant ideas..and will appreciate it so much.. The question is: How could an all knowing, all loving God allow His son to b murdered on the cross to redeem our sins.?If God the father s so loving why didnt He come down and take that cross from hes son.? I look forward to ur reply guys..hopefully.. Thank u.. Mekay Shalom. Yahshua chose to let himself be an example. Ever since adam and eve man has went against his father. Yahshua came to show us we do not need any man to show us how to come to eternal life. he showed us believing in Yahweh our father that all things are possible. Yahshua proved this to us by Being " the 1st born of the dead" by doing his fathers will as we are told. Yahshua being our example. He said no better friend does a man have than one who would die for his friends. Yahshua calls us his friends. The bible is all about family. if you will read it and keep all things that you read in mind how would I treat and also what is best for my children at the tip of your tongue, you will find out the bible reads very differently than you may of been taught. It is a lesson for us to find the deeper meanings of life. Yahshua showed us that when we obey our parents they only or should at least have our Heart at our best interest. We let our children learn by example so they know themselves. Yet we know if they would just listen they would not endure so many thing we went through. The same with the scriptures of Life. It is a family manual to guides us, protect us, warn us of what is right and what is wrong. we just have to listen and desire to want to learn. That's when the spirit will guide you when you desire to learn. Yahshua chose to obey believing he would 3 days and nights later rise from the dead. Just as he said he would as the sign of Jonah which is the only sign he gave he was the promiced one of Yahweh. Take care and May the Grace of Yahweh fill you with True Shalom Hi there..:) thank u for that..anyway so the bottom line there s that God knows that he can take the life of jesus back thats y he let it happen..? He let jesus died bcos he knows that he can rise him up from the dead..? of course Yahweh knew he could rise him from the dead. It was Yahshua's faith in his father as a child who listens who gave us the pure knowledge that Yahweh will rise us from the dead. The curse of the Law was death the Blessing is eternal life. Yahshua being the perfect sacrifice took away the death penalty that came from Adam and Eve. Yahshua is even called the 2nd adam. Yahweh never wanted the sacrifice of animals but a broken and contrite heart. A heart that loves him as a father child relationship where a child puts all their faith in their parents. That's why we must be born again. To come to him as a child. every parent has seen the faith of a 2 or 3 year old where they know their parents will protect them. It is family. Yahweh has been since the beginning we are babes very small children compared to him. Yahshua showed this total faith in his fathers mercy and love for him as an example to us of his love for us also Ohh..I see..,God's sacrifices has wasted cos people kp commiting sins..ryt..?so whats the best thing to do to b save..?follow whats written n the bible..is it..? The best way is to have faith, to have hope in God to shed his mercy on us all. Not anything we can do ourselves in hopes to save our selves, it is entirely in the power of God and only by him can one accomplish life. Ephesians 2:8 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: |
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Thank u once again guys..these learning I got from u all will remain n my memories as long as I go on n my journey n life..thank much really..
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I suggest you read Michael Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things
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Thank you...:-)
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