someone claimed to read the book,,,,,no one stated that it was required for anyone to read it

as to the declaration of independence, no matter how often we wish to tie it to the constitution , it is still a SEPERATE document

yes it is a separate document no one said it wasn't

and the college books calculus 1 and calculus 2 are separate
books and separate courses but you can not take two till can show
you can do one

lol,and?


calculus is a topic that is all inclusive of different levels of studying


the constitution is a DOCUMENT, quite diffrent from a TOPIC for study

now, I can speak of what is true in calculus, as a subject, and point to any document about CALCULUS

but I Cant teach from a Calc II book and then score a student off for not knowing what was in that CALC II assignment from the CALC II lesson, by claiming its in the CALC II book,, if its not in the book,,,,

but if the student is not knowledgeable about what is in the 1st
they will not understand the 2nd

yes, but they wont be able to claim its in the second if its NOT IN THE SECOND,,

in the continuation of a topic, one has to progressively retain information to grasp what follows

the only thing that needs to be understood to understand the Constitution, is english

nobecaus the same people that wrote the constitution signed the
declaration of independence

thus the spirit of the declaration is the foundation of the
Constitution

not at all

I signed my insurance contract AFTER I signed my auto title

but the 'spirit' of my auto title has nothing to do with my insurance contract

seperate companies, seperate documents, seperate interests,,,lol

whats on my auto title is not therefore automatically in my insurance contract,,,

This is not a good example as the "company" we are speaking of is this same in both documents, and it involves the same interests.

To expand upon an earlier comment; You will not see 1+1 = 2 in a calculus book. However it's an understood concept that would prevent you from being able to understand the outcome of calculus equations.

This can be applied to our constitution.

Lawyers will pervert its amendments. Legislative officials may make amendments. But when it violates the Declaration of Independence it then becomes a problem.

These two documents probably should not be considered any more separate than the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive branches. If we separated them, the president would be supreme ruler.

An example you gave before, was the "right to eat" not being in the constitution. Yet, food is needed for survival. If one were to violate this than it would violate a "right to life". The Declaration of Independence now points the to public's right to take up arms (which is SUPPOSED to be protected by our 2nd amendment), and over-throw our current corrupt officials denying us that "inalienable right".

Checks and balances. Governments are typically a corrupt entity as power corrupts. I have mentioned before this concept is timeless and we haven't passed through some mystical void that makes it any less true today than it was 300, or 3,000 years ago. If all the decision for rule was left to the constitution, and all power would reside in those that write amendments, thus surpassing our checks and balances.

ya know,, if its not 'in there' its not in there


its nowhere near as complicated as its being made

pointing to whats in the DECLERATION doesn't prove thst something is in the CONSTITUTION,,,

Yet the basis are covered.

Again, I agree, some Lawyers separate the documents, them try to use the most literal modern day translation on the constitution to their benefit.

Direct, literal phrases, of which you speak, are not there, especially since those words ("fair trial" , etc.) could not be used given their subjective nature.

By that logic, the words "right to not be stabbed in the neck with a no.2 pencil" is not in there either. Making this whole topic rather pointless...

with out the original document (auto title)

you would not need the second (insurance document)

most likely your vin number will be on the insurance document

pretty simple

I agree, IF the vin number is ON THE INSURANCE DOCUMENT

than it is ON THE INSURANCE DOCUMENT

if it is on the title but not the INSURANCE DOCUMENT

than it is NOT ON THE INSURANCE DOCUMENT

,,,it is,, VERY simple

from the national archives website (Myths)

(Myth)The “Founding Fathers” who wrote the Declaration of Independence in 1776 are the same men who wrote the Constitution in 1787.

{FACT) Only five individuals signed both of these two founding documents. They were George Clymer, Benjamin Franklin, Robert Morris, George Read, and Roger Sherman.



http://blogs.archives.gov/prologue/?p=12851

Gee and I thought I was pedantic

I agree,,, who would have thought 'in the document' would cause so much debate,,,,lol

I wonder how the title "Declaration of Independence" turned into the topic titled "Whats not in the constitution".