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Topic: marriage vows
kessel009's photo
Mon 05/12/14 05:17 PM
Recent findings has shown americans as the country with the highest divorce rate. What happen to; stay together till death do us part or in weakness and in health, for better for worse its so not right. If ur in support of abolishing of divorce that's to say if u get married u stay married no matter life possibilities say yes if not say no with a good reason.

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/12/14 05:24 PM
no, I don't think divorce should be abolished because of the nature of some men/women to be abusive and harmful to others, I dont think
anyone should feel forced to be trapped in such situations


certainly , I believe divorce where there is emotional , or physical abuse (of which I consider infidelity an example of both) either of spouse or children, or where there is abandonment, divorce deserves no stigma

I do think there should be more stigma to leaving for 'something better' or because of superficial reasons like physical attraction or differences in opinion, tastes,, etcetera



the western notion of marriage is formed on the basis of either attraction or 'romance', when it wanes, our own 'happiness' is promoted above all else so leaving is no longer stigmatized and therefore easier to do

I think in other cultures, marriage is formed MORE on the basis of commitment than 'happiness' and divorce carries a social STIGMA which makes it much less desirable of an option,

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Mon 05/12/14 06:26 PM
I agree w/ Ms Harmony and find it interesting that those who criticize our divorce rate here often come from regions of the world where women are the most oppressed.

2469nascar's photo
Mon 05/12/14 06:36 PM

I agree w/ Ms Harmony and find it interesting that those who criticize our divorce rate here often come from regions of the world where women are the most oppressed.
thank you. so tired of ppl bashing the US.and thay will not fix them self first.if you cant feed your self why do you keep having kids you cant take care of?????

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Mon 05/12/14 06:47 PM


I agree w/ Ms Harmony and find it interesting that those who criticize our divorce rate here often come from regions of the world where women are the most oppressed.
thank you. so tired of ppl bashing the US.and thay will not fix them self first.if you cant feed your self why do you keep having kids you cant take care of?????

who me? I am not having kids??surprised what

2469nascar's photo
Mon 05/12/14 06:51 PM
no not you silly. the op..lmao

kessel009's photo
Mon 05/12/14 07:32 PM

I agree w/ Ms Harmony and find it interesting that those who criticize our divorce rate here often come from regions of the world where women are the most oppressed.
u have a point

no1phD's photo
Mon 05/12/14 07:38 PM
Edited by no1phD on Mon 05/12/14 07:40 PM
No..way. would I stay with somebody..
. whose values may have changed.
. who's outlook on life may have changed..
. who's goals and desires may have changed..
who's priorities and ambitions may have changed.
. in a relationship you are always evolving and changing.. not always for the better..hmm..

SimplyBren's photo
Mon 05/12/14 07:58 PM
Sometimes the phrase "till death do us part" can take on different connotations. Sometimes death can be your spirit or self worth that dies in a bad relationship.

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Mon 05/12/14 08:01 PM

no not you silly. the op..lmao


the OP is having kids?!?! Nascar we gotta have a talk about the birds & the bees thing.... the OP is a male and he...


oh never mind....this is a 4 cups of coffee kinda talk lolslaphead

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Mon 05/12/14 08:03 PM


I agree w/ Ms Harmony and find it interesting that those who criticize our divorce rate here often come from regions of the world where women are the most oppressed.
u have a point


ty

but I do also wish their was less divorce :)flowerforyou

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Mon 05/12/14 08:04 PM

No..way. would I stay with somebody..
. whose values may have changed.
. who's outlook on life may have changed..
. who's goals and desires may have changed..
who's priorities and ambitions may have changed.
. in a relationship you are always evolving and changing.. not always for the better..hmm..


but you can't expect that your partner will stay the same....if you love that person/ each other, then you deal with changes together

no1phD's photo
Mon 05/12/14 08:29 PM
Edited by no1phD on Mon 05/12/14 08:30 PM


No..way. would I stay with somebody..
. whose values may have changed.
. who's outlook on life may have changed..
. who's goals and desires may have changed..
who's priorities and ambitions may have changed.
. in a relationship you are always evolving and changing.. not always for the better..hmm..


but you can't expect that your partner will stay the same....if you love that person/ each other, then you deal with changes together
. Say this in your best Arnold Schwarzenegger voice. ....no I don't expect them to stay the same.. I expect them to get out.laugh .
.jk..flowerforyou .hi.u

Goofball73's photo
Mon 05/12/14 08:42 PM



No..way. would I stay with somebody..
. whose values may have changed.
. who's outlook on life may have changed..
. who's goals and desires may have changed..
who's priorities and ambitions may have changed.
. in a relationship you are always evolving and changing.. not always for the better..hmm..


but you can't expect that your partner will stay the same....if you love that person/ each other, then you deal with changes together
. Say this in your best Arnold Schwarzenegger voice. ....no I don't expect them to stay the same.. I expect them to get out.laugh .
.jk..flowerforyou .hi.u


Get to de chopper!

2469nascar's photo
Mon 05/12/14 10:14 PM


no not you silly. the op..lmao


the OP is having kids?!?! Nascar we gotta have a talk about the birds & the bees thing.... the OP is a male and he...


oh never mind....this is a 4 cups of coffee kinda talk lolslaphead
OMG no no no the op has kids that are now OPP .oooh forget it.Ill make a pot of coffee and you can PM me.,....tntlmao

4evababy's photo
Tue 05/13/14 04:20 AM
It takes more than vowes and a piece of paper to make a marriage work, it takes two people working together and give and take in the relationship if one person or both are not working at it then divorce is inevitable

TawtStrat's photo
Tue 05/13/14 04:40 AM
Sometimes people are just not really right for each other in the first place. That applies just as much with marriage as it doeswith other types of relationships. Possibly a lot of the problem is that people do know what sort of person that they're marrying or getting into a relationship with but they think that they will somehow "settle down" or change when they make the commitment. Sometimes they do of course but not always. My mum told me that my grandmother sat my mum down and told her what my dad is like. Nothing "bad" as such. Just character traits that he has that she would have to deal with.

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Tue 05/13/14 06:11 AM



No..way. would I stay with somebody..
. whose values may have changed.
. who's outlook on life may have changed..
. who's goals and desires may have changed..
who's priorities and ambitions may have changed.
. in a relationship you are always evolving and changing.. not always for the better..hmm..


but you can't expect that your partner will stay the same....if you love that person/ each other, then you deal with changes together
. Say this in your best Arnold Schwarzenegger voice. ....no I don't expect them to stay the same.. I expect them to get out.laugh .
.jk..flowerforyou .hi.u
:tongue: I can't pull it off as Arnie...my muscles aren't big enough....I can do as Alice from the Honeymooners (though she was probably hoping for a few changes...lollaugh )


g'mornin' PhDflowerforyou

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Tue 05/13/14 06:13 AM



no not you silly. the op..lmao


the OP is having kids?!?! Nascar we gotta have a talk about the birds & the bees thing.... the OP is a male and he...


oh never mind....this is a 4 cups of coffee kinda talk lolslaphead
OMG no no no the op has kids that are now OPP .oooh forget it.Ill make a pot of coffee and you can PM me.,....tntlmao


lol you have a msg....so that should clear it uplaugh :wink:

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Tue 05/13/14 06:18 AM

Sometimes people are just not really right for each other in the first place. That applies just as much with marriage as it doeswith other types of relationships. Possibly a lot of the problem is that people do know what sort of person that they're marrying or getting into a relationship with but they think that they will somehow "settle down" or change when they make the commitment. Sometimes they do of course but not always. My mum told me that my grandmother sat my mum down and told her what my dad is like. Nothing "bad" as such. Just character traits that he has that she would have to deal with.


I got married really young and it lasted along time (one marriage to my credit). We have so little in common that I am amazed looking back that it lasted so long. we were living on love alone just out of good will and camaraderie that was it's own special kinda love. But after 18 yrs we finally drove each other nuts. Your grandmum was right to point out some things....tho' the kind of young person I was I would not have listened....but good on her Tawt. Sounds like a nice family. :)

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