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John is considered the unreliable gospel. Many scholar feel that Jesus never claimed to be g-d. John is unreliable because just like that children's game of "whisper the down lane", the longer a story is told, the more it gets distorted. There is an excellent analysis of John by a former minister which demonstrates this quite clearly, esp. in relation to the other gospels, but I forget his name now, might be on the Disinformation website Isaiah 43:3 3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. Exodus 20:2 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Psalm 81:10 10 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it. Well I don't know what those "scholars" are reading, but it is found all through the entire bible that Jesus is God, not just from John. The context of the verses have no relevance btw, just used for example purposes of the Lord eg., Jesus saying he is our/thy God. None of the verses you quote states that Jesus is g-d. Your premise is fallacy a priori For I am the Lord thy God, who in the world do you think Lord is in question here? The only Lord there is. Thus the reasoning the scriptures capitalize the "L" in "Lord", to show more precisely whom it in reference to. you are trying to make a connection where there isn't any! You are tying a generic name to a specific name,an absolute no-no! You are making one entity out of two! You're playing Three-Card Monte! |
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John is considered the unreliable gospel. Many scholar feel that Jesus never claimed to be g-d. John is unreliable because just like that children's game of "whisper the down lane", the longer a story is told, the more it gets distorted. There is an excellent analysis of John by a former minister which demonstrates this quite clearly, esp. in relation to the other gospels, but I forget his name now, might be on the Disinformation website Isaiah 43:3 3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. Exodus 20:2 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Psalm 81:10 10 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it. Well I don't know what those "scholars" are reading, but it is found all through the entire bible that Jesus is God, not just from John. The context of the verses have no relevance btw, just used for example purposes of the Lord eg., Jesus saying he is our/thy God. None of the verses you quote states that Jesus is g-d. Your premise is fallacy a priori For I am the Lord thy God, who in the world do you think Lord is in question here? The only Lord there is. Thus the reasoning the scriptures capitalize the "L" in "Lord", to show more precisely whom it in reference to. you are trying to make a connection where there isn't any! You are tying a generic name to a specific name,an absolute no-no! You are making one entity out of two! You're playing Three-Card Monte! Ok Conrad, since you claim there is no connection. Show me where there's not. Tell us whom this "Lord" is in reference in these scriptures providing verses to support such claims and not just personal speculation. |
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Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I Am..." Funny how people always say He never claimed to be God. Amen, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. |
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Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I Am..." Funny how people always say He never claimed to be God. Many scholars believe him to be Melchizedek (spelling) ergo before Abram, he was, but not g-d |
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Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I Am..." Funny how people always say He never claimed to be God. Many scholars believe him to be Melchizedek (spelling) ergo before Abram, he was, but not g-d Explain his reasoning for saying "but not God" please. Everything else he says, he says he is God. So why would it be different for this verse? Elaborate please. |
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Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I Am..." Funny how people always say He never claimed to be God. Many scholars believe him to be Melchizedek (spelling) ergo before Abram, he was, but not g-d Explain his reasoning for saying "but not God" please. Everything else he says, he says he is God. So why would it be different for this verse? Elaborate please. [/quote All theological arguments fall into the category of "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"; outside of theology they fall apart. How do you take the words of the Jewish G-d and say Jesus said them? Because they are a Trinity? Where does it say anything about a Trinity? Messiah means annointed one not saviour. 10 people go to a grave which is empty- 9 say, "Goodness, someone stole the body; the 10th claims "He is risen". In real life the arguments fail. Trying to prove the argiment will always fail- you will either lose your faith or become a fanatic. |
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Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I Am..." Funny how people always say He never claimed to be God. Many scholars believe him to be Melchizedek (spelling) ergo before Abram, he was, but not g-d Explain his reasoning for saying "but not God" please. Everything else he says, he says he is God. So why would it be different for this verse? Elaborate please. All theological arguments fall into the category of "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"; outside of theology they fall apart. How do you take the words of the Jewish G-d and say Jesus said them? Because they are a Trinity? Where does it say anything about a Trinity? Messiah means annointed one not saviour. 10 people go to a grave which is empty- 9 say, "Goodness, someone stole the body; the 10th claims "He is risen". In real life the arguments fail. Trying to prove the argiment will always fail- you will either lose your faith or become a fanatic. Who cares about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Lol please stay on subject my friend. lol what are you going on about the trinity? What in the world? Nobody even mentioned any "trinity". The scriptures even never once say "trinity". And what are you going on about "proving" anything? Who's trying to "prove" anything? Again, just thought we were people relaxed at home sitting in front of our computers have a civil discussion. On top of that, you never answered my request on your "but not g-d" comment. And fyi, who cares what "scholars" think, say, or do. We're discussing a belief among ourselves in relevance to the topic at hand, using our resources for the discussion. In this form of discussion and it being "Christian" related if you may, we use the bible and or the scriptures thereof. So please elaborate and explain the "but not g-d" comment. How does one word change that entirely in reverse meaning? For again everywhere else he speaks, he says he is God rather then the "But not g-d" comment as you suggest. |
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QUOTE; {Put's the claim of "Peaceful" ,and that the Jihadists aren't true Muslims to rest once and for all}.
I told you that the Jihadists aren't true Muslims. Their root belong to Wahhabism, it is a religious movement of Islam. It was developed by an 18th century Muslim theologian (Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab) from Saudi Arabia. Wahhabi ideology is the base of Al-Qaeda and terrorism. They kill others, Muslims and Christ people. Many sites and a hug of books are published and distributed by Saudi Arabia government. These resources full of unsuspecting and deceptive words. |
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QUOTE; {Put's the claim of "Peaceful" ,and that the Jihadists aren't true Muslims to rest once and for all}. I told you that the Jihadists aren't true Muslims. Their root belong to Wahhabism, it is a religious movement of Islam. It was developed by an 18th century Muslim theologian (Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab) from Saudi Arabia. Wahhabi ideology is the base of Al-Qaeda and terrorism. They kill others, Muslims and Christ people. Many sites and a hug of books are published and distributed by Saudi Arabia government. These resources full of unsuspecting and deceptive words. and the Koran is still the basis of it! You guys need to Fast-Forward into the 21th Century,instead being stuck in the 12th! Islam is whatever your Aytollah or Mufti deems it to be! Something like Catholicism and the Pope,or any of the thousands of Preachers bending Religion to their own use! |
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The fact is all religions from one God. We have to respect all of them and their followers.
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QUOTE; {Put's the claim of "Peaceful" ,and that the Jihadists aren't true Muslims to rest once and for all}. I told you that the Jihadists aren't true Muslims. Their root belong to Wahhabism, it is a religious movement of Islam. It was developed by an 18th century Muslim theologian (Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab) from Saudi Arabia. Wahhabi ideology is the base of Al-Qaeda and terrorism. They kill others, Muslims and Christ people. Many sites and a hug of books are published and distributed by Saudi Arabia government. These resources full of unsuspecting and deceptive words. and the Koran is still the basis of it! You guys need to Fast-Forward into the 21th Century,instead being stuck in the 12th! Islam is whatever your Aytollah or Mufti deems it to be! Something like Catholicism and the Pope,or any of the thousands of Preachers bending Religion to their own use! Preachers nor the pope decides what God wants. Maybe their own interpretation of what the scriptures state. But nevertheless as a whole, they have absolutely no power over anything more then you or I. People that listen to either preachers or the pope and not specifically find out what God has said about it for themselves, it is their own choice. But nevertheless does not make preachers nor the pope any greater or lesser then you or I, that includes their interpretation of the scriptures. |
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The fact is all religions from one God. We have to respect all of them and their followers. Your statement is inevitably incorrect, for the simple fact that not all religions and or beliefs line up with one another. For all the religions/beliefs to be from the same God, would have to mean God either can't make up his mind or has split personalities. Not gonna get into preaching here, but there can only be one belief that is true, if that be Christianity, Buddhist, Catholic, Atheism, or any other number of beliefs. Only one of those could ever possibly be true. But that doesn't mean you can't respect the other's in their belief. Two people of different beliefs can get along and be the best of friends, if they wish. That's where the "problem(s)" tend to arise. Not from the belief in itself, but from how people treat other's due to their beliefs. |
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Unity of different religions
Pope Francis urged members of all religions and those belonging to no church to unite to defend justice, peace and the environment and not allow the value of a person to be reduced to “what he produces and what he consumes”. Francis, met leaders of non-Catholic Christian religions such as Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans and Methodists, and others including Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus. “The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of furthering respect of friendship between men and women of different religious traditions,” the Argentine pontiff told the religious leaders in an audience at the Vatican. Speaking in Italian in the frescoed Sala Clementina, he said members of all religions and even non-believers had to recognize their joint responsibility “to our world, to all of creation, which we have to love and protect. “We must do much for the good of the poorest, the weak, and those who are suffering, to favor justice, promote reconciliation and build peace,” he said. Francis told the religious leaders to fight “a one-dimensional vision of a human person, according to which man is reduced to what he produces and what he consumes,” which he said was “one of the most dangerous snares of our times”. While he said history had shown that any attempt to eliminate God had produced “much violence,” he reached out to those who seek truth, goodness and beauty without belonging to any religion. |
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Unity of different religions Pope Francis urged members of all religions and those belonging to no church to unite to defend justice, peace and the environment and not allow the value of a person to be reduced to “what he produces and what he consumes”. Francis, met leaders of non-Catholic Christian religions such as Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans and Methodists, and others including Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus. “The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of furthering respect of friendship between men and women of different religious traditions,” the Argentine pontiff told the religious leaders in an audience at the Vatican. Speaking in Italian in the frescoed Sala Clementina, he said members of all religions and even non-believers had to recognize their joint responsibility “to our world, to all of creation, which we have to love and protect. “We must do much for the good of the poorest, the weak, and those who are suffering, to favor justice, promote reconciliation and build peace,” he said. Francis told the religious leaders to fight “a one-dimensional vision of a human person, according to which man is reduced to what he produces and what he consumes,” which he said was “one of the most dangerous snares of our times”. While he said history had shown that any attempt to eliminate God had produced “much violence,” he reached out to those who seek truth, goodness and beauty without belonging to any religion. Which is kind of scary to think what you said is true. God has done told us prophecies of a one world religion/order. Revelation 13:16-17 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. So with what you said coming to pass, is only fulfilling a prophecy God told us already would happen, many many years ago. |
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THE UNITY THAT UNDERLIES ALL RELIGIONS
By SRI SWAMI SIVANANDA "All religions are one. They teach a divine life. I respect saints and prophets of all religions. I respect all religions, all cults, all faiths and all creeds. I serve all, love all, mix with all and see the Lord in all". - Swami Sivananda At the present moment all religions contain a mixture of truth, which is divine, and error which is human. The fundamentals or essentials of all religions are the same. There is difference only in the non-essentials. The apparent differences in religions are due to a misconception or misconstruction of the long-forgotten truth of the Vedas on which they are ultimately founded. All systems of religion are equally divine and true. The conflicting points are all due to misconception and misconstruction of truths on account of prejudice, bigotry, lack of purity of heart and subtlety and purity of intellect, and perverted condition of the intellect of people. The great majority of religions had their origin in prehistoric times. Hence there are no genuine documents or trustworthy traditions concerning them. All prophets are messengers of God. They are great Yogins and realized souls, who have had divine, intuitive perception of God. Their words are infallible and sacred. The Koran or the Zend-Avesta or the Bible is as much a sacred book as the Bhagavad-Gita. All contain the essence of divine wisdom. Ahuramazda, Isvara, Allah, Jehovah are different names for one God. Truth is neither Hindu nor Muslim, nor Buddhist nor Christian! Truth is one, homogeneous, eternal substance. The follower of the religion of Truth walks on the path of light, peace, wisdom, power and bliss. Man forgets all about his religion on account of ignorance, or lust for power and greed. He has become irreligious. So he has come down to the level of a brute. He has lost all sense of morality. He does havoc. He creates mischief. He stabs, loots, and burns houses. The law of the jungle prevails. Many preach Buddhism, but no one gives up desires and Himsa (as opposed to Ahimsa). Many preach Christianity, but no one practices love and forgiveness. Many preach Islam, but no one recognizes the brotherhood of man. Many preach Hinduism, but no one realizes the Divinity in all. Preaching has become the livelihood of men, while practice has become their object of scorn. Hence the world is wicked, not for want of truth, nor on account of religions; but, alas, it is wicked for the lack of true followers of these ideals and religions. What is needed is proper education of the followers of all religions. Place the practical tenets of their own religion before the followers of that religion, and devise ways and means of enabling them to express these tenets in their daily life. Without practice, idealism creates fatalism in man. Unless knowledge alters one's life, it is useless. Selflessness and love are not creeds to be taught, but ideals to be exemplified, demonstrated and radiated. Therefore, let everyone practice his own religion and strive to attain the goal. Let religion create saints and Yogins, rather than Mandirs (Hindu temple), Masjids (Mosque) and Churches. |
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THE UNITY THAT UNDERLIES ALL RELIGIONS By SRI SWAMI SIVANANDA "All religions are one. They teach a divine life. I respect saints and prophets of all religions. I respect all religions, all cults, all faiths and all creeds. I serve all, love all, mix with all and see the Lord in all". - Swami Sivananda At the present moment all religions contain a mixture of truth, which is divine, and error which is human. The fundamentals or essentials of all religions are the same. There is difference only in the non-essentials. The apparent differences in religions are due to a misconception or misconstruction of the long-forgotten truth of the Vedas on which they are ultimately founded. All systems of religion are equally divine and true. The conflicting points are all due to misconception and misconstruction of truths on account of prejudice, bigotry, lack of purity of heart and subtlety and purity of intellect, and perverted condition of the intellect of people. The great majority of religions had their origin in prehistoric times. Hence there are no genuine documents or trustworthy traditions concerning them. All prophets are messengers of God. They are great Yogins and realized souls, who have had divine, intuitive perception of God. Their words are infallible and sacred. The Koran or the Zend-Avesta or the Bible is as much a sacred book as the Bhagavad-Gita. All contain the essence of divine wisdom. Ahuramazda, Isvara, Allah, Jehovah are different names for one God. Truth is neither Hindu nor Muslim, nor Buddhist nor Christian! Truth is one, homogeneous, eternal substance. The follower of the religion of Truth walks on the path of light, peace, wisdom, power and bliss. Man forgets all about his religion on account of ignorance, or lust for power and greed. He has become irreligious. So he has come down to the level of a brute. He has lost all sense of morality. He does havoc. He creates mischief. He stabs, loots, and burns houses. The law of the jungle prevails. Many preach Buddhism, but no one gives up desires and Himsa (as opposed to Ahimsa). Many preach Christianity, but no one practices love and forgiveness. Many preach Islam, but no one recognizes the brotherhood of man. Many preach Hinduism, but no one realizes the Divinity in all. Preaching has become the livelihood of men, while practice has become their object of scorn. Hence the world is wicked, not for want of truth, nor on account of religions; but, alas, it is wicked for the lack of true followers of these ideals and religions. What is needed is proper education of the followers of all religions. Place the practical tenets of their own religion before the followers of that religion, and devise ways and means of enabling them to express these tenets in their daily life. Without practice, idealism creates fatalism in man. Unless knowledge alters one's life, it is useless. Selflessness and love are not creeds to be taught, but ideals to be exemplified, demonstrated and radiated. Therefore, let everyone practice his own religion and strive to attain the goal. Let religion create saints and Yogins, rather than Mandirs (Hindu temple), Masjids (Mosque) and Churches. You have a beautiful idea, don't get me wrong please. But nevertheless as previously stated this is incredibly fallible and would not work. All religious beliefs are entirely and totally different in how they worship, what they worship, if they worship anything/anyone. And most to all religions/beliefs discuss about "false" prophets/teachings. If what you said was true, there would be no "false" anything along the lines of belief in this manner. |
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Evils wish to fight each other;
Clashes between Christian and Muslim groups in a town in the Central African Republican have left 75 people dead. God order us to love each other; Utah Muslims work with LDS Church to help typhoon victims A friendship based on trust and mutual respect has grown in recent years between The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Utah’s Muslim community. In the past, local Muslim leaders have participated in Latter-day Saint-sponsored interfaith gatherings and the LDS Church assisted with the construction of a mosque in West Valley City. Latter-day Saints also extended hands of fellowship to Utah Muslims in the volatile days following Sept. 11, 2001. Congregants from both faiths have also worked together in times of need and disaster. That partnership reached a new level Jan. 10 when the Islamic Society of Greater Salt Lake made a significant donation to the LDS Church Humanitarian Fund to assist victims of the recent typhoon in the Philippines. Bishop Dean M. Davies, second counselor in the Presiding Bishopric, accepted a donation from the Islamic Society of almost $120,000 during a ceremony at the Khadeeja Islamic Center in West Valley City. Muslims help rebuild Catholic church in Zamboanga Christian residents of Zamboanga city’s Santa Catalina district found nothing unusual about Muslims bearing carpenters’ tools until they realized the Muslims had volunteered to help rebuild a Catholic chapel. “We thought they were just looking for damaged mosques to rebuild,” said Jimmy Villaflores, Santa Catalina barangay (village) head. “We are very happy about it. Santa Catalina residents are deeply touched by their efforts. We really appreciate how our Muslim brothers and sisters are helping us,” Villaflores said. Father Michael Ufana of the Saint Joseph parish said he was overwhelmed by what the Muslims had shown. Ufana said these efforts did not only result in the speedy rebuilding of the chapel but also strengthened the harmonious relationship between Muslims and the Christians. Churches Open Doors to Muslim Worship They see it as their Christian duty. But others disagree, saying it extends the hand of fellowship where it was never intended to go. Two Protestant churches are taking some heat from critics for opening their church buildings to Muslims needing places to worship because their own facilities were either too small, or under construction. Heartsong Church in Cordova, Tenn., let members of the Memphis Islamic Center hold Ramadan prayers there last September. And Aldersgate United Methodist Church in Alexandria, Va., allows the Islamic Circle of North America to hold regular Friday prayers in their building while their new mosque is being built. Diane Bechtol of Aldersgate says this is something Christians are called to do: Be neighborly and develop relationships - even those who don't share your beliefs. "I think it's a tenet of our Christian faith, and that is that we extend hospitality to the stranger,” said Bechtol. “We are a congregation that wants to be helpful to people and if we are asked to help a neighbor in need, that's what we do." |
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Evils wish to fight each other; Clashes between Christian and Muslim groups in a town in the Central African Republican have left 75 people dead. God order us to love each other; Utah Muslims work with LDS Church to help typhoon victims A friendship based on trust and mutual respect has grown in recent years between The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Utah’s Muslim community. In the past, local Muslim leaders have participated in Latter-day Saint-sponsored interfaith gatherings and the LDS Church assisted with the construction of a mosque in West Valley City. Latter-day Saints also extended hands of fellowship to Utah Muslims in the volatile days following Sept. 11, 2001. Congregants from both faiths have also worked together in times of need and disaster. That partnership reached a new level Jan. 10 when the Islamic Society of Greater Salt Lake made a significant donation to the LDS Church Humanitarian Fund to assist victims of the recent typhoon in the Philippines. Bishop Dean M. Davies, second counselor in the Presiding Bishopric, accepted a donation from the Islamic Society of almost $120,000 during a ceremony at the Khadeeja Islamic Center in West Valley City. Muslims help rebuild Catholic church in Zamboanga Christian residents of Zamboanga city’s Santa Catalina district found nothing unusual about Muslims bearing carpenters’ tools until they realized the Muslims had volunteered to help rebuild a Catholic chapel. “We thought they were just looking for damaged mosques to rebuild,” said Jimmy Villaflores, Santa Catalina barangay (village) head. “We are very happy about it. Santa Catalina residents are deeply touched by their efforts. We really appreciate how our Muslim brothers and sisters are helping us,” Villaflores said. Father Michael Ufana of the Saint Joseph parish said he was overwhelmed by what the Muslims had shown. Ufana said these efforts did not only result in the speedy rebuilding of the chapel but also strengthened the harmonious relationship between Muslims and the Christians. Churches Open Doors to Muslim Worship They see it as their Christian duty. But others disagree, saying it extends the hand of fellowship where it was never intended to go. Two Protestant churches are taking some heat from critics for opening their church buildings to Muslims needing places to worship because their own facilities were either too small, or under construction. Heartsong Church in Cordova, Tenn., let members of the Memphis Islamic Center hold Ramadan prayers there last September. And Aldersgate United Methodist Church in Alexandria, Va., allows the Islamic Circle of North America to hold regular Friday prayers in their building while their new mosque is being built. Diane Bechtol of Aldersgate says this is something Christians are called to do: Be neighborly and develop relationships - even those who don't share your beliefs. "I think it's a tenet of our Christian faith, and that is that we extend hospitality to the stranger,” said Bechtol. “We are a congregation that wants to be helpful to people and if we are asked to help a neighbor in need, that's what we do." Churches Open Doors to Muslim Worship They see it as their Christian duty. But others disagree, saying it extends the hand of fellowship where it was never intended to go. That's not extending the hand of fellowship though. That's along the same lines of why Jesus reacted as he did in the following Matthew 21:12 12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. The only thing(s) done in the church of God is to worship God. Not allow other's to use it for their uses or any other use then again to worship God. Notice in 13, he says "MY" house. So why would he let or condone other "false" Gods be worshiped in "his" house? |
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Are all religions worshipping the same God?
It is central to Christian belief that when anyone in the world, no matter what their circumstances or religion, cries out to God, he hears and responds. It is also true that three of the world’s major religions – Christianity, Judaism (Jews) and Islam (Muslims) – all worship the God whom Abraham worshipped approximately four thousand years ago. In that respect it is absolutely certain that no faithful adherent of any religion has put himself or herself beyond the reach of God. However, Christians speak about God in ways that make their faith completely unique. The Bible speaks of God as Father, creator of all things. It also speaks of Jesus Christ, the historical figure who lived about two thousand years ago, as God. And it speaks of God as Spirit, active in humans and in the world – the Holy Spirit (known in past centuries as the Holy Ghost). When seen in this complete way, it is clear that not all religions worship that God. Christians never talk of their three experiences of God as if they were three separate Gods. They always speak of one God. They worship a Trinity – God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit – one God with different characteristics. It is the very great reverence that Christians have for Jesus, not only following his teaching but submitting to him as God, that makes the difference between Christianity and other faiths most clear. The question of how Christians relate to those of other religions is becoming increasingly pressing. Television and migration have swept away the ignorant assumptions of Christians in former times that those of other faiths were wicked or benighted. More and more evidently there is a willingness of good people of all religions to work together to address racism and poverty. However, it is undeniable that there are groups within all religions (including Christianity) whose extreme opposition to the cultures which have been shaped by other religions has led them to violence. Nothing whatever in mainstream Christian belief suggests that this is acceptable. Dialogue between people of different faiths is at its best when it seeks understanding, rather than agreement. Jesus commanded his followers to love their neighbors in the same way that they love themselves. Most Christians seek to live positively with their neighbors while being true to the most important parts of their faith. But they also want to be open with others about their beliefs, sharing what they have found to be life-enhancing. |
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Are all religions worshipping the same God? It is central to Christian belief that when anyone in the world, no matter what their circumstances or religion, cries out to God, he hears and responds. It is also true that three of the world’s major religions – Christianity, Judaism (Jews) and Islam (Muslims) – all worship the God whom Abraham worshipped approximately four thousand years ago. In that respect it is absolutely certain that no faithful adherent of any religion has put himself or herself beyond the reach of God. However, Christians speak about God in ways that make their faith completely unique. The Bible speaks of God as Father, creator of all things. It also speaks of Jesus Christ, the historical figure who lived about two thousand years ago, as God. And it speaks of God as Spirit, active in humans and in the world – the Holy Spirit (known in past centuries as the Holy Ghost). When seen in this complete way, it is clear that not all religions worship that God. Christians never talk of their three experiences of God as if they were three separate Gods. They always speak of one God. They worship a Trinity – God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit – one God with different characteristics. It is the very great reverence that Christians have for Jesus, not only following his teaching but submitting to him as God, that makes the difference between Christianity and other faiths most clear. The question of how Christians relate to those of other religions is becoming increasingly pressing. Television and migration have swept away the ignorant assumptions of Christians in former times that those of other faiths were wicked or benighted. More and more evidently there is a willingness of good people of all religions to work together to address racism and poverty. However, it is undeniable that there are groups within all religions (including Christianity) whose extreme opposition to the cultures which have been shaped by other religions has led them to violence. Nothing whatever in mainstream Christian belief suggests that this is acceptable. Dialogue between people of different faiths is at its best when it seeks understanding, rather than agreement. Jesus commanded his followers to love their neighbors in the same way that they love themselves. Most Christians seek to live positively with their neighbors while being true to the most important parts of their faith. But they also want to be open with others about their beliefs, sharing what they have found to be life-enhancing. No they don't all worship the same God. They do not all worship Jesus Christ. Thus why it's called "Christ"ianity. Because we worship Jesus "Christ". We've always worshiped him since the beginning of time. |
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