100% FREE ONLINE DATING
sponsored links
Previous
| Topic: Another WACO/Ruby Ridge occuring in Nevada | |
|---|---|
|
Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
on
Sun 04/13/14 07:55 AM
|
|
His Grandfather came west with the covered wagons, homesteaded the area in the 1860's. His family has worked the land since then. It was considered open range until the corporation (US Govt) added Nevada to it's list of enrollees. Nevada purchased the territory becoming a state. All laws were written after his family had settled the land under the homestead agreement. His rights are grandfathered in by inherent right, regardless of whatever transpired after the fact with the state returning the land to the management of the BLM. With Rory Reid (Slimy Reids lobbyist son) now brokering a $5 BILLION deal for the land to a Chinese company (ENN) using his fathers status as a Senator (corruption and fraud to the highest degree.... not to mention illegal!) the deal (documented) said the purchase was subject to Clivon Bundy, his ranch and his cattle, being removed from the land. The other cattle ranchers with the same rights have already been forced out! Bundy is the last rancher standing, killing the "deal"! This was never about a tortoise (the govt is killing 1000's of them themselves ....also documented). It's about Reid and his son using their power and money to broker the deal with China for the sale of the land to line their own pockets! It is Reids illegal and corrupt influence over the courts, his friend as sitting head of the BLM, and his lobbyist sons financial influence that has caused Bundys problems! Bundys' rights are grandfathered.... ever hear of "ex post facto"? His family has been on the land since before their was any law governing it other than the federal homestead act of the 1800's! The problem is that Reid and the BLM want to assume rights they don't have over him by interpreting the law as they see fit and not as it is written! The warrants come from a court case the BLM walked out of saying "they" owned the land and "they" were the law.... which is not, nor has it ever been, the case. They only manage it, but his families federal homestead grant is older than their authority in this case! That is why they (the BLM) backed down. They could care less about harming citizens, but getting caught in a fraud and harming civilians...... a whole nother matter! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
His Grandfather came west with the covered wagons, homesteaded the area in the 1860's. His family has worked the land since then. It was considered open range until the corporation (US Govt) added Nevada to it's list of enrollees. Nevada purchased the territory becoming a state. All laws were written after his family had settled the land under the homestead agreement. His rights are grandfathered in by inherent right, regardless of whatever transpired after the fact with the state returning the land to the management of the BLM. With Rory Reid (Slimy Reids lobbyist son) now brokering a $5 BILLION deal for the land to a Chinese company (ENN) using his fathers status as a Senator (corruption and fraud to the highest degree.... not to mention illegal!) the deal (documented) said the purchase was subject to Clivon Bundy, his ranch and his cattle, being removed from the land. The other cattle ranchers with the same rights have already been forced out! Bundy is the last rancher standing, killing the "deal"! This was never about a tortoise (the govt is killing 1000's of them themselves ....also documented). It's about Reid and his son using their power and money to broker the deal with China for the sale of the land to line their own pockets! It is Reids illegal and corrupt influence over the courts, his friend as sitting head of the BLM, and his lobbyist sons financial influence that has caused Bundys problems! Bundys' rights are grandfathered.... ever hear of "ex post facto"? His family has been on the land since before their was any law governing it other than the federal homestead act of the 1800's! The problem is that Reid and the BLM want to assume rights they don't have over him by interpreting the law as they see fit and not as it is written! The warrants come from a court case the BLM walked out of saying "they" owned the land and "they" were the law.... which is not, nor has it ever been, the case. They only manage it, but his families federal homestead grant is older than their authority in this case! That is why they (the BLM) backed down. They could care less about harming citizens, but getting caught in a fraud and harming civilians...... a whole nother matter! Amen!!! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
now they are attacking the protesters.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUYr9ruxjGbBB1MOpuU6tpAQ&v=LhJ6H9vlEDA The fear is the protesters are carrying concealed weapons. Everyone in Nevada carries, we are an open carry state, with one of the highest number of concealed carry permits in the country. Did you even bother to watch the video, no. Otherwise how could you have made that statement. Perhaps people being tasered would have given a clue. Or maybe, just perhaps the intimidation by the dogs would have been a clue. God help us from the..... Federal land managers backed down in a weekend standoff with Bundy after hundreds of states' rights protesters, including armed militia members, showed up to protest federal officials seizing his cattle. Some protesters had their guns drawn and pointed toward law enforcement, some of whom were also armed, on the scene -- ultimately, no shots were fired and the Bureau of Land Management reported that officials left over safety concerns. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/15/not-over-feds-coy-over-next-move-in-nevada-rancher-stand-off/ |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
alnewman
on
Tue 04/15/14 02:52 PM
|
|
Federal land managers backed down in a weekend standoff with Bundy after hundreds of states' rights protesters, including armed militia members, showed up to protest federal officials seizing his cattle. Some protesters had their guns drawn and pointed toward law enforcement, some of whom were also armed, on the scene -- ultimately, no shots were fired and the Bureau of Land Management reported that officials left over safety concerns. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/15/not-over-feds-coy-over-next-move-in-nevada-rancher-stand-off/ Wow, what an article, but at least I didn't puke as many times as when watching the NBC version. Nevada Sen. Harry Reid said afterward that the dispute is "not over." But whether the feds will keep plugging away with a court challenge or go further is unclear. Well he got the sentiment right, but not in the manner he is trying to imply. The "gather" refers to the round-up of 900 cattle, hundreds of which belonged to Bundy, on federally owned land in Nevada. Bundy has been at odds for years with the feds, who say he owes more than $1.1 million in unpaid grazing fees. BLM long ago revoked Bundy's grazing rights on that land after citing concern for a federally protected tortoise. Bundy, though, claimed ancestral rights to the land his family settled in the 19th century and has refused to pay the fees or remove his animals. Bundy pretty much follows the common law, in effect long before the state became a state, but even more so once it did. but here is the real highlight of the article... But Heller's Senate colleague, Senate Majority Leader Reid, D-Nev., told Reno-based KRNV: "It's not over. We can't have, in America, people that violate the law and just walk away from it. So it's not over." So Harry and his son are going to flee the country? Because in the end, justice will be done as it was over the weekend. But guns drawn, after all the footage watched, I have come up with one idiot with a gun drawn except on the part of the criminals, the BLM. If someone has a link to this, please post. 
The last being from NBC and the same idiot (sorry had to delete the first image that was from NY daily news, too large, but was same guy, different angle and he was prone aiming gun through the slot). Except for these guys: 
Couldn't help but throw this one in! Hey, what's the difference between registration and confiscation? Time and location. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know when I think of Mises, I remember the talks by Chomsky and Judge Napolitano , I get the impression of freedom and liberty but then there is an article like the one here where reality rears it ugly head. With reality comes the concept of the true purpose of Mises, to promote economist, sociologist, and classical liberal views. I would say the author of the above link has remained true to that concept. The conservative press has framed the story in a variety of ways, casting the story both as matter of outright federal seizure of private land, and as an absurd environmental crusade to save a tortoise from extinction. The reality looks to be a little murkier, however, as is often the case when dealing with land ownership in the American West. Back in September, the Las Vegas Sun reported on the Bundy family and noted that troubles began 20 years ago when the family's patriarch unilaterally determined that he would no longer pay the Bureau of Land Management use fees that have long been required to graze on federal lands. The exact legal and historical details of the Bundy family's case will emerge slowly over time, but even if the family is completely in the wrong legally (which it probably is), it’s safe to say that taxpayer dollars might be better spent on things other than a shock and awe campaign waged against a tiny ranch in the middle of a Nevada desert. Nonetheless, this is just the latest dispute in a long history of ranchers jockeying with the Federal government over land use permits and land use regulations. This lead in statement sours the whole argument and shows the story will be slanted and immaterial. the highlighted text presumes that which is not only not proven but not accurate in the least unless one desires to ignore the constitution. And then to make a de facto determination is just completely biased and idiotic. Bundy has only been found guilty in a federal court against a federal bureau driven by a corrupt politician for personal gain. But here is an excellent post from none other than the Washington Post, who woulda thought? Everything you need to know about the long fight between Cliven Bundy and the federal government Yeah I know the title is a complete lie but you can't have everything. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
