Ive decided its not fair that I havent won the lottery yet.....

ya gotta do alot of research if you wanna find a good investment in that market...

Is the rate of inflation transversely affected by peak interest?

no it's usually due to some devaluation in the general areas of productivity and internal stability...sometimes brought on from outside influences....






hi Harry

Hi Alex

Possibly good influences

Twilight's Twin writes:

"We no longer permit "cruel & unusual punishment"

Inmates on death row now are brought to their maker by leathal injection, and not hanging or firing squad. Is this the lesser of two evils? Not really...the end result is still death. Yet the manner of death was more "humane". "

Yet, you're willing to sign off on and espouse a creed that postulates people whose only 'crime' is to not believe as you do should burn for eternity. In the thread 'BURN!' in the Religion forum, you constructed a straw man argument chock full of fallacy. Why should I or any other non-believer trust you to be a 'fair' arbiter of what's 'humane'? What you wrote seems to me to be on very shaky ethical grounds for someone soliciting support for the hidden premise that The Golden Rule is a Good Thing (TM)is far superior to Frontier Law.

-Kerry O.

KerryO

By no means should you trust anyone's judgement but your own. Who else should decide what is morally right or wrong but what one see's through their own eyes. The Golden rule, believed to be universal does not apply for each man or woman in the exact manner in some form or application. There is no formula to ethics that singles out each indidual. What we do, and think is what we must go to bed with every night. Our opinions vary, and what rules are made are made by popular demand are the similaries we share. We share these by culture, race, nation, etc. As varied as our differences so be our ethics.

"Yet, you're willing to sign off on and espouse a creed that postulates people whose only 'crime' is to not believe as you do should burn for eternity. In the thread 'BURN!' in the Religion forum, you constructed a straw man argument chock full of fallacy. Why should I or any other non-believer trust you to be a 'fair' arbiter of what's 'humane'? What you wrote seems to me to be on very shaky ethical grounds for someone soliciting support for the hidden premise that The Golden Rule is a Good Thing (TM)is far superior to Frontier Law. "

-Kerry O.


As for the "burn" article.

You have sadly mistaken me for someone who is ...quote:"willing to sign off on and espouse a creed that postulates people whose only 'crime' is to not believe as you do should burn for eternity." This is truely an insulting fallacy!!! In NO WAY do I believe those who do not share the same religious beliefs as I shall... quote: "burn for eternity". DO NOT LABEL ME AS SUCH PERSON AGAIN.


The Burn story was not written by me, but a story I wished to pass on. The word "burn" is a modern way of saying Tu shea'

To tell school children their God does not exist is 1. not their decision to make and 2.) (in MY opinion) brainless


The act of not believing in God is NOT Brainless. The act of forcing your beliefs or telling a child their God doesnt exist ...IS.

I really dislike the phrase "all's fair in love and war"

To me it is just a piece of war propaganda...

to juxtapose war with love is oxymoronic to me... which I believe is what this phrase accomplishes... it gets people to tacitly accept that war is as inegral and somehow beneficial a part of life as love...

I mean, did anyone even blink twice at the comparison of killing to love?

In a way I can see the "all's fair in love" part though- if it is used to mean that people may do extaordinary things in pursuit of an object of affection.... but not if it is used as an excuse for some harmful behavior such as lying or cheating, etc.

BTW-

I was curious about the origin of the phrase and found the following listings (from Answers.com):

Anye impietie may lawfully be committed in loue, which is lawlesse. Cf. [1578 Lyly Euphues I. 236]

Love and warre are all one. ‥It is lawfull to use sleights and stratagems to‥attaine the wished end. [1620 T. Shelton tr. Cervantes' Don Quixote ii. xxi.]

In love and war, every stratagem is fair, they say. [1845 G. P. R. James Smuggler II. iv.]

Then Eulalie's eyes narrowed and she looked hard at her companion. ‘Do you believe that all is fair in love and war?’ [1986 S. Brett Nice Class of Corpse xl.]

All is fair in love and war, and it is important that you sustain your marriage. You must therefore take the following, deceitful steps. [2002 Spectator 15 June 63]

Twin-

What is "Tu shea"?

Do you mean "touche"?

E.g. From Mirriam-websters:

"Main Entry: tou·ché
Pronunciation: tü-'shA
Etymology: French, from past participle of toucher to touch, from Old French tuchier
-- used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or the success or appropriateness of an argument, an accusation, or a witty point".

Or does it mean something else? If so I'm not familiar....

So, what is the motive for this thread? Are we talking about the rights and wrongs involved in every situation in life or to a more specific issue?

Love is an issue which generally involves two people or a family according to its size, and is a private matter in which the rules of fairness should be decided upon by them in a private accord and remain as a private matter!

War involves at least two entire populations, as well as innocents that are caught up in it by no choice of their own. Like devinci says there is nothing pretty or fair about it, and responsibility for it should lie on the heads of all involved, Governments and the people.

If the people live in a Democracy where they are free to raise their voices and dont then they should feel responsible for every innocent man, woman, and child that is maimed or killed.
The ones that cry nuke em all or win at all cost, have no conscience or decency. I am sure these people have no problem sleeping at night!

anoasis

Im glad you reserched the origin of the phrase & thanks for sharing.

Also an excellent point made, how odd the pairing of love & war and how can we compare both side to side.

Death & taxes are much better grouped

I love hearing everyones opinions

anoasis

yes

touche

thanks for correcting me

......it's ironic ...now that i think about it


ultimately it is Women that give you any value at all!

each of you were born to a mother, and her initial contact and influence sets the foundation for how we value ourselves.

Until we honestly process this and find our authenticity, we can have any number of misconceptions and mechanisms that blind us from who we really are. It's innocent up to a point. Until the patterns fail to serve us and we begin to wonder , why am i here AGAIN?


but the chase for the goddess of life goes on... she bears your sons and daughters, (actually even in Homosexual couples 'somewoman' has to bear the child somewhere)....

and then take a step bigger..and the Great Mother..our planet...do you think we would be here without her???

it's amazing the disrespect and the brutal abuse of our own Mother..

we are indigenous of this planet !!!


HUMANKIND HAS NOT WOVEN THE WEB OF LIFE.
WE ARE BUT ONE THREAD WITHIN IT.
WHATEVER WE DO TO THE WEB, WE DO TO OURSELVES.
ALL THINGS ARE BOUND TOGETHER.
ALL THINGS ARE CONNECTED

The motivation for this thread?


I am simply asking one's opinion. The phrase "All is fair in love and war" has been quoted for years. Now it has been turned into a question. True or false.

if she kicks us in the butt.... that would be "all's fair in love and war"

Bl8ant

"HUMANKIND HAS NOT WOVEN THE WEB OF LIFE.
WE ARE BUT ONE THREAD WITHIN IT.
WHATEVER WE DO TO THE WEB, WE DO TO OURSELVES.
ALL THINGS ARE BOUND TOGETHER.
ALL THINGS ARE CONNECTED "

Your own words???

Nice put

Sorry a phone call interrupted me!

These people that cry nuke em or win at all cost care nothing about what is fair or not, and can usually be found sitting in a bar with no worries or cares about the suffering of the innocents caught up in the war zone!

They just sit around rooting for their side and justifying the war with comments about how changing the political or religous beliefs of the ignornant backwards people of the other country takes time.

Like we have some supreme right to call their politics or religous beliefs backwards, or to change them in the first place!

no...Chief Seattle


thought everyone knew that....