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Topic: NTY: Racial Micro-aggression?
msharmony's photo
Sun 03/23/14 11:19 AM
its a nonsense term,,, and
I am PERSONALLY suspicious of the motives of those who use it


like I said, its just as easy to see color and not judge others by it

as it is to have some fictitious condition called 'colorblind' and not judge others by color,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/23/14 11:27 AM
i just see racism now as a political way to get what they want... barry doesn't get his way, he cries racism... pretty much anyone that's not white uses the wolf crying technique to it's max, not really caring who or what they walk on to get their way...

biden: "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."

not racist, just stupid and using this statement as a political tool...

i guess colon powel, condolezza rice, jessie jackson, and all the other black people in congress could/should be a bit upset at this, but they all know how politics works...


But let's face it - it's considered racist for whites to treat any trait as "black." If we accept that, then we can't turn around and say they're racists to look at black people as just people. That particular aspect of the microaggression notion seems fixed so that whites can't do anything right.

thats the point there... ^^^

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 03/23/14 11:33 AM

its a nonsense term,,, and
I am PERSONALLY suspicious of the motives of those who use it


like I said, its just as easy to see color and not judge others by it

as it is to have some fictitious condition called 'colorblind' and not judge others by color,,,


So, you are ignoring the definition of "color-blind" that I gave, which isn't fictitious.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/23/14 11:37 AM


its a nonsense term,,, and
I am PERSONALLY suspicious of the motives of those who use it


like I said, its just as easy to see color and not judge others by it

as it is to have some fictitious condition called 'colorblind' and not judge others by color,,,


So, you are ignoring the definition of "color-blind" that I gave, which isn't fictitious.


not ignoring it, expressing my disdain for it

just like some see the term 'white priviledge' with equal disdain,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/23/14 11:37 AM
smh

then we can't turn around and say they're racists to look at black people as just people.


black people are seen as 'black' people , or they couldn't constantly be discussed as 'black' people

and, once again, it is not mutually exclusive to see black people as people and not see 'traits' as black trait

there is no 'trait' that any race has a monopoly on, people are diverse

RACE goes beyond nationality and has billions of people around the world who have diverse cultures and traditions and 'tendencies'




Dodo_David's photo
Sun 03/23/14 11:44 AM

RACE goes beyond nationality


That is because "race" is an artificial social construct.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/23/14 12:01 PM
so is 'class', but yet it has defined parameters

and 'race' , likewise defined , is a social construct upon which we identify and discuss people daily,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 03/23/14 12:08 PM

just like some see the term 'white priviledge' with equal disdain,,,


That is because the term is code used to express anti-White racism.

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 03/23/14 12:30 PM
Regarding the topic of the OP, I agree that racial micro-aggression occurs. However, it is something that is practiced more often than the NYT article implies.

For example, the expression "white privilege" is a form of racial micro-aggression. Assuming that a white person is privileged because that person is white is akin to assuming that a black Harvard student got into Harvard because of affirmative action. Both forms of racial micro-aggression belittle the person by implying that the person didn't earn what the person has.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/23/14 06:01 PM


just like some see the term 'white priviledge' with equal disdain,,,


That is because the term is code used to express anti-White racism.




and colorblind is code used to deny acknowledging race(except when it reinforces ones point of view)



msharmony's photo
Sun 03/23/14 06:04 PM

Regarding the topic of the OP, I agree that racial micro-aggression occurs. However, it is something that is practiced more often than the NYT article implies.

For example, the expression "white privilege" is a form of racial micro-aggression. Assuming that a white person is privileged because that person is white is akin to assuming that a black Harvard student got into Harvard because of affirmative action. Both forms of racial micro-aggression belittle the person by implying that the person didn't earn what the person has.


this is a good example, because even at Harvard, one had to EARN their slot as AA seeks to only account for 'previously proven discrimination',, , in SPITE of AA, applicants still have some requirements to beat out other applicants

white priviledge accounts for the previous 'PRIVILEGE' afforded to a demographic because of RACE,, passed down through birth due to RACE and continuing to affect racial demographics and culture today

the past leads to the present,, they cant simply be disconnected,,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 03/23/14 07:43 PM

white priviledge accounts for the previous 'PRIVILEGE' afforded to a demographic because of RACE,, passed down through birth due to RACE and continuing to affect racial demographics and culture today

the past leads to the present,, they cant simply be disconnected,,,,


Well, I can't stop you from continuing to use the racial micro-aggression that is displayed by a claim of "White privilege".

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/23/14 07:51 PM
that's true

like those who are born with all their limbs can take certain Privileges/advantages for granted that those without them usually don't and cant

those born into a culturally 'white' society, founded by 'white' people, to represent mostly 'white' people,, can take certain pivileges/advantages of that social position for granted that those without it cant and don't


and the only ones of either group that are 'blind' to color are those without sight

the rest are just refusing to admit they see it, by claiming a 'blindness'

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 03/23/14 08:04 PM

that's true

like those who are born with all their limbs can take certain Privileges/advantages for granted that those without them usually don't and cant

those born into a culturally 'white' society, founded by 'white' people, to represent mostly 'white' people,, can take certain pivileges/advantages of that social position for granted that those without it cant and don't


and the only ones of either group that are 'blind' to color are those without sight

the rest are just refusing to admit they see it, by claiming a 'blindness'


You are still presenting a racist argument when you claim that a white person is privileged just because that person is white.

I know of a white male Human who grew up in a racially-mixed neighborhood, who attended racially-mixed schools, who worked for racially-mixed employers, and he didn't have any "privilege" that wasn't also available to the black Humans he interacted with on a daily basis. In fact, plenty of those same black Humans were far more successful than he was.


msharmony's photo
Sun 03/23/14 08:54 PM


that's true

like those who are born with all their limbs can take certain Privileges/advantages for granted that those without them usually don't and cant

those born into a culturally 'white' society, founded by 'white' people, to represent mostly 'white' people,, can take certain pivileges/advantages of that social position for granted that those without it cant and don't


and the only ones of either group that are 'blind' to color are those without sight

the rest are just refusing to admit they see it, by claiming a 'blindness'


You are still presenting a racist argument when you claim that a white person is privileged just because that person is white.

I know of a white male Human who grew up in a racially-mixed neighborhood, who attended racially-mixed schools, who worked for racially-mixed employers, and he didn't have any "privilege" that wasn't also available to the black Humans he interacted with on a daily basis. In fact, plenty of those same black Humans were far more successful than he was.




its not 'just because' they are white, its because of the UNIQUE foundation of status that has provided for them in THIS country,,


like the unique status and the foundation it creates for males in muslim countries

or the unique status and the foundation it creates for royalty in England,,etc,,etc,,

its recognition of HISTORICAL STATUS, which is not aggressive, just realistic,,,

choosing not to use a privilege doesn't mean the priviledge doesn't exist,,,,

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