Hi

I have had a discussion about sex before marriage with a few people and some think its not a sin. What's your view on this?

Im an unwed mother.....that says it all

what do you think Adam and Eve did?

the most complicated part of the discussion, for me, is pinning down what qualifies as 'marriage'

the bible never specifically mentions a pastor or middle person 'marrying' anyone, but there is a lot of mention of parties, and agreements between fathers and families

I personally no longer believe the government has to have a place in it,,,I think if two people take vows before God and their family, its as much a marriage as any in the bible

so, I think to not make a vow to God before entering into sexual relations is a sin

but I don't think its a sin to have a sexual relation with someone merely because the government hasn't been involved in your process,,,

Wow!! The title of this thread makes me feel like I'm about to get a sermon... The sins of Fornication and Blasphemy!

To answer the question....sex before marriage... I'm for it!!

This topic offends me and I think that you should have posted it in the religious forum.

French14,

Being that this discussion thread has been relocated to a forum for Christians, perhaps now you will receive Christian responses to your inquiry, because thus far you haven't.

Yes, from a Christian perspective, sexual intercourse outside of legal marriage is sinful.

Sadly, even Christians make the mistake of trying to serve two masters when it comes to sexual activity.

Yes it is a sin, there are many verses that state as such -

1 Corinthians 7:2
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

Acts 15:20
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Fornication - Sexual intercourse between partners who are not married to each other

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The following is more or less just perspective, what I see on how/why from what I read, feel, and know.

God made sex before marriage a sin, because that's why we were created, each man a woman, each woman a man. And God's first commandment to us is -

Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

But God has some rules/regulations/guidelines or whatever you wish to call them lol. God set up the rules/laws to keep us more organized, more directed, more of a purpose then just a bunch of animals running around creating more into anarchy.

Most to all sinful actions have a negative effect in one way or other. I do believe that is why God created and or allows STD's to be in existence and or spread.

Sex is a special thing. It's more then just the physical feelings, much more. It's almost a spiritual binding between the two. And if sex is done with anyone, then how can it then be "special" or any kind of "binding/bonding" experience? It can't be. So God set it up so each man has ONE woman and each woman has ONE man.

In the first covenant, a man could have many wives. I do believe this was done to promote procreation and populate the Earth. Then God ended that covenant when people got greedy and selfish. And made it to where we are to be with one person only.

what the 'law' recognizes as marriage is not uniform, even within the 50 united states, different states don't require the same things

God knows your heart, is the best advice I have read or heard,,

from gotquestions.org

So, what constitutes marriage in God’s eyes? It would seem that the following principles should be followed: 1) As long as the requirements are reasonable and not against the Bible, a couple should seek whatever formal governmental recognition is available. 2) A couple should follow whatever cultural and familial practices are typically employed to recognize a couple as “officially married.” 3) If possible, a couple should consummate the marriage sexually, fulfilling the physical aspect of the “one flesh” principle.

What if one or more of these principles are not fulfilled? Is such a couple still considered married in God’s eyes? Ultimately, that is between the couple and God. God knows our hearts (1 John 3:20). God knows the difference between a true marriage covenant and an attempt to justify sexual immorality.


Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/marriage-constitutes.html#ixzz2wkmXlcpI

msharmony, there is something that you have left out. A marriage would not be a marriage in God's eyes if one "marriage partner" is still legally married to her/his previous spouse.

A person who is still legally married would have to get legally divorced or become widowed in order for that person to become re-married in God's eyes.

true

one husband/wife only

So, if a person is still legally married to a living being, then it would be a sin for that person to start a sexual relationship with different living being.

As long as we agree on that ...

lol

agreed

Legality or anything "legal" doesn't make a difference, nor can they become "re-married"

Matthew 19
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery

Genesis 2:24
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.


Mark 10:8
8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

It's not about that little piece of paper we use these days the "marriage certificate" or whatever it's called. That's not what marries two together. The vowing to love one another before God is what joins the two together, again not some piece of paper, not some preacher, or anything or anyone else except God, the man, and the woman.

Would be sinful for that person even if they were legally "divorced", UNLESS it was on the grounds of sexual "cheating". Outside of that, there is no way to "divorce" someone.

Jesus said it best -

Mark 10:2-12
2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.

3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?

4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.

5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.

11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

Premarital sex is fornication. It is a sin.