Topic: scumbag punches 8 yo, steals Ipad...
mightymoe's photo
Fri 03/21/14 10:37 AM
video here: http://www.sott.net/article/276005-Scum-of-the-earth-who-punched-8-year-old-boy-stole-his-iPad-is-chased-down-by-good-Samaritan
Reg Chapman
CBS News - Minnesota
Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:40 CDT

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Police say cell phones and other mobile devices are being stolen more often, but a violent robbery involving an 8-year-old boy had some people shaking their heads and a Minneapolis man leaping to action.

Last Thursday, a boy was punched and the iPad in his hands was stolen outside a Minneapolis restaurant.

Aaron Stillday, 32, was arrested and charged with first-degree aggravated robbery. Police caught him after a good Samaritan chased him down.

"Poor kid," said Mohammad Armeli, the man who chased down the robber. "I can't believe it, the blood was all over his face. Could have broken his nose."

Surveillance video shows the 8-year-old following his aunt out of a day care building. What happened next left Armeli's blood boiling.


"This is the scum of the earth," he said. "You cannot hit a child like that. Don't hit him for his iPad, or for anything."

Armeli, who works at a Greek restaurant nearby, heard the commotion and went after the robber. While talking to 911 on his cell phone, he chased Stillday for more than a half-mile.

Police say they've seen Stillday before.

"As I was told, he's been arrested 60 times," Armeli said. "I can't believe they let him out."

Police have also seen this kind of crime before. While there isn't much left of the iPad - it was smashed on the sidewalk - its original value is what made it a target in the first place.

"These are valuable items that people want," said Scott Seroka of the Minneapolis Police Department. "And if you don't have to have them out, maybe you can wait until you're in a secure environment to use them."

On the bright side: The boy's sister said the family took the shattered iPad to the Apple store in Uptown, along with video of the incident, and they were given a new iPad.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/21/14 10:44 AM
terrible.

Glad they caught him and everyone is ok.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 03/21/14 11:24 AM

terrible.

Glad they caught him and everyone is ok.


and the kid got a new Ipad... :banana:

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/21/14 11:24 AM
right?

panchovanilla's photo
Fri 03/21/14 11:35 AM
The one thing that's guaranteed to hit my 'enrage' button, is anyone hurting a child.explode

mightymoe's photo
Fri 03/21/14 12:49 PM

The one thing that's guaranteed to hit my 'enrage' button, is anyone hurting a child.explode
hopefully, he won't see his 61st release... prison guys will love it when he gets there, the real inside justice...

Smartazzjohn's photo
Fri 03/21/14 01:40 PM
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Fri 03/21/14 01:41 PM
WTF is wrong with these a'holes?

And what's the solution to this kind crap according to Scott Seroka of the Minneapolis Police Department? Wait until you are in a secure place to use VALUABLE ITEMS LIKE THIS!!!!!!! Really??? Let the scumbags dictate where and when we can enjoy our valuable? REDICULOUS!!!!!!!

Maybe the solution is for people to do what the REAL HERO did.....NOT LET THE CRIMINAL GET AWAY!!!!!!

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/21/14 02:35 PM
I don't think its a solution as much as a precaution.

Like, at a stop signal, not everyone stops

so, along with cracking down on the jerks who keep going
its also wise to use the PRECAUTION of looking to MAKE SURE the car stopped

it can be brave or stupid to chase someone down, thank goodness in this case the assailant was caught and no one lost their life

Smartazzjohn's photo
Fri 03/21/14 03:47 PM
What kind of a society is it when the law abiding citizens have to take precautions before doing something that is LEGAL? That is what happens in an UNCIVIL society where people don't stand up to the terrorists, and make no mistake about it, criminals are terrorists. I'll be damned if I'll be held hostage by the minority of people who are criminals.


It's the criminals who should be taking precautions not to get their a**es beat, or worse, for their actions.

vanaheim's photo
Sat 03/22/14 09:06 PM
A similar experience gives me another view on this too.
Several years ago, living at an inner suburban boarding house for a bit, I saw a mugging in broad daylight right on a city street from a nearby park.
The park was known for the occasional druggies in the public toilets, and one had wandered over to the city street and decided to try to grab the purse of an elderly asian lady with her more elderly husband, it was atrocious.
She was trying to beat him off with her umbrella, must've been in her sixties (her husband in his 80s I'd guess), but tough old bird. It was this activity that told me it wasn't a joke, it was a real mugging.
So this is about 08:30am with people in business suits with briefcases literally walking around them dispassionately while it was going on, like it was some kind of street play they weren't interested in watching. Nobody was even bothering to use their mobile phone to call the police, or instruct the mugger to stop, they were literally just stepping around the altercation as if it was nothing, and heading off to their office jobs.

That actually made me as angry as the mugging itself, I wasn't in real good shape those days (out of work, barely scraping by with food), but thankfully just my running over shouting like a crazy person gave the mugger enough of a fright that he left them and turned to me as a threat. Tall guy, but clearly stoned and it wasn't hard drawing him back into the park, away from his victims and then escaping (he was being joined by a heavier mate that just came out of the public toilet after shooting up, so I wasn't about to hang about and get knifed).


My point however, is that the bystanders are probably more scumbag than the perpetrator, whilst criminally aggressive and violent, thieving, intolerable, he was at least desperate. They were just arrogant.

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 03/22/14 09:11 PM
"And if you don't have to have them out, maybe you can wait until you're in a secure environment to use them."


How about instead we put criminals like this in stocks in town square and let the public humiliate them with rotten veggies.

vanaheim's photo
Sat 03/22/14 09:16 PM

"And if you don't have to have them out, maybe you can wait until you're in a secure environment to use them."


How about instead we put criminals like this in stocks in town square and let the public humiliate them with rotten veggies.


Punishment =/= prevention.
Intervention = prevention.

People prefer to be happy than uhappy. Hating/attacking others is unhappy. Strangers wanting to be your friend is happy.
The majority of buglaries are more circumstantial than by design, nobody tries to make themselves live such a way they need to rob someone to achieve something (food, drugs, expressionism, whatever).

ie. you can't stop crime with penalties, you can stop it with intervention, and you can reduce its proliference by reducing criminal environments with fruitious ones of lawful endeavour.

Things like muggings are a social statement, not an alien invasion. This should be obvious.

Smartazzjohn's photo
Sun 03/23/14 08:09 AM
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Sun 03/23/14 08:18 AM


"And if you don't have to have them out, maybe you can wait until you're in a secure environment to use them."


How about instead we put criminals like this in stocks in town square and let the public humiliate them with rotten veggies.


Punishment =/= prevention.
Intervention = prevention.

People prefer to be happy than uhappy. Hating/attacking others is unhappy. Strangers wanting to be your friend is happy.
The majority of buglaries are more circumstantial than by design, nobody tries to make themselves live such a way they need to rob someone to achieve something (food, drugs, expressionism, whatever).

ie. you can't stop crime with penalties, you can stop it with intervention, and you can reduce its proliference by reducing criminal environments with fruitious ones of lawful endeavour.

Things like muggings are a social statement, not an alien invasion. This should be obvious.


So what kind of intervention do you use with someone that has been ARRESTED 61 times like this scumbag? Burglaries are commit by people who don't RESPECT the property and RIGHTS of others. Is your idea of intervention to GIVE them what they want? Intervention for first offenses via probation is the normal action taken against low level criminals and that is an intervention rather that punishment approach. It's NOT WORKING effectively.

Harsher punishments, especially for repeat offenders like this scumbag, are needed. How any rational person can put the blame on punishment received and/or society for the actions of a man who punches an EIGHT YEAR OLD in order steal something from them knowing he doesn't stand a chance defending himself is beyond me. HE ALONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HE DID. Blaming the actions of a COWARD like this scumbag on anyone or anything but him is ridiculous.

Muggings aren't a SOCIAL STATEMENT, THEY are CRIMES!!! THIS IS OBVIOUS TO RATIONAL PEOPLE!!!!!!

boredinaz06's photo
Sun 03/23/14 08:46 AM


"And if you don't have to have them out, maybe you can wait until you're in a secure environment to use them."


How about instead we put criminals like this in stocks in town square and let the public humiliate them with rotten veggies.


Punishment =/= prevention.
Intervention = prevention.

People prefer to be happy than uhappy. Hating/attacking others is unhappy. Strangers wanting to be your friend is happy.
The majority of buglaries are more circumstantial than by design, nobody tries to make themselves live such a way they need to rob someone to achieve something (food, drugs, expressionism, whatever).

ie. you can't stop crime with penalties, you can stop it with intervention, and you can reduce its proliference by reducing criminal environments with fruitious ones of lawful endeavour.

Things like muggings are a social statement, not an alien invasion. This should be obvious.


Aint got time for your hippy mess, just throw hives of wasps at them.