Stop being stubborn. Just ask her to marry you. If not, You should never want to hurt anyone intentionally so I wouldnt make any crazy decisions like revenge. I'd buy her things and tell her u love her but u need some more time. Don't hurt that poor girl.

It's not very nice to stay with a woman who is only with you because she's under the impression it was leading to marriage, but you do not want to marry her.

You are supposed to throw away 3.5yrs of stringing her along, especially now she's realized you're just stringing her along, because all of it is not very nice of you towards her.

You're the bad one here, not her. A person has a human right to want to share themselves with few others without marriage being involved. For some it is their religious belief and you hurt them when you steal this decision from them by lying to yourself and them about how serious you were about them in the long term.

This sort of thing can really hurt some people, make them suddenly feel like instead of life being wonderful, some malicious guy corrupted and stole from them, just to gets his rocks off.

Now those might not be your beliefs nor mine, but the fact they are some people's beliefs gives you an adult responsibility to consider and accommodate their feelings if you're going to have any relationship with one, or pretend you care about them.

So you're just not a very nice person feller, that's all.

you are right van :) .. That's why i agree in the funny quote that says "if somebody will took our wings away, we can still fly.... On a broomstick! That's how flexible we are." see players create a bad woman.


P.S. i dont judge you feller as one. Because i dont know u andur girl's real situation. It was just my opinion.

I think the suggestion of good and bad people is a very very relative and subjective statement, this given it is a relative observation of a person's actions and thus not particularly judgemental.

People thinking they're being judged usually has more to do with introspetive guilt than anything else.

I don't do ultimatums, I'm not in the market for a conditional relationship. If a girl said that too me I'd dump her and move on, no second chances.

OMG

I don't think that's a waste of either of their time. If she is telling him he has to marry her or she'll leave him then she doesn't love him anyway, she just wants someone to marry her. Why wouldn't just being with the person you love be enough?

If it's not broken, then why fix it? I've seen mates that were with their girlfriends for years and happy, then they got married and split up not long after. As long as you treat her right, do things together, love her and are faithful to her, then whats the big deal about whether you're married, or not?

*Kidding* If you don't marry me soon, I'm outta here. You can keep the CD's. And all the photo's of our holidays together.

So so true, the games and stringing her along trying to hold on will hurt much more them just letting go, if u don't see forever with her then let go let her find someone who does

she gives an ultimatum, I say don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya.