Now what would lead someone to believe a college degree would be involved, but if the indoctrination is continued, enough intelligence is lost to qualify for a masters.

But over the long term, a college education does show that one is a good little citizen capable of following the required programming. Sort of along the lines of Ayn Ryan's "The Fountainhead" and Howard Roark, good for fundamentals but gets in the way of critical thinking and real education.

And nowhere was there an "I" in regards to responsibility, but thank you for proving my point, their is no understanding and no it is not a "kindergarten" concept, perhaps that is the problem. Today's world and the modern generations have no understanding beyond the "kindergarten" level.

If you really want to understand education, then look at the old "Harvard" of the 17th and 18th Centuries (yes Harvard was more than 100 years old when this country was born) or look at the original William and Mary that Jefferson helped to establish.

U R kidding right? lost intelligence in receiving a masters...of course you can't wrap your mind around that absurdity I'm sure...

good little citizen...who broke your nose? such that u feel superior over others...that world of critical thinking you are in must be a lonely world...

Not kidding at all, as serious as a heart attack, maybe more so. Absurd, depends on where you sit, on this side absolutely not absurd at all. The worse I've met are MBAs from Harvard, good pull, little thinking.

Good little citizens, absolutely, the world is full of them. And what makes you think violence was involved, your answer to situations where you are uncomfortable? Superior, yes to those with an inferiority complex it would seem so.

And my world being lonely, absolutely not but it isn't as crowed as the other side. In fact there are more than a few posting on this forum that are members of that world where the inhabitants employ critical thinking. And the interesting part is I don't even need to name them, they know who they are.

and in the real world, that is referred to as a being a legend in one's own mind...such a dim view of humanity...

Real world, what is a real world? Are you inferring that the world of the sheeple being good citizens is not real or are you inferring that the world of those refusing to be sheeple is not real.

Well I love to pop your little indoctrinated bubble but both are very real. It is just a matter of how you make that journey from birth to death that differs.

To those capable of critical thinking and discovering education it is a challenging and exciting world full of exciting things to be discovered and choices to be made. Some choices are easy but it is those that are hard that are the separators, there are fraught with dangers, ridicule and pain but the freedom enjoyed is worth every moment.

Humanity, I always have a dim view of humanity. All it takes is a study of history to understand humanity if fraught with the sheeple that makes freedom painful.