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Topic: local police kill 8 times more americans than terrorists
Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Fri 12/27/13 05:10 PM
Conrad, what do you mean by "big labor?" What in the world is that? Sleeping Partners of Big Oil,Big Steel,Big Pharma,Big Corporations! And the Sleeping Partners of Big Government! The Marriage who wrecked Detroit! Nafta free trade and global capitalism wrecked Detroit. These results were forseen by many who were against them at the time. Of course one can parrot the corporate controlled medias line all day but its not a well thought out statement. Unions were a necessary solution to corporate greed way back... They add a increase in costs to goods... But maintain a fair playing field in regards to corporate mistreatment and unites the average blue collar worker to stand up to corporate abuses. Things have changed since the mid fifties... Your economy(and mine) decided to outsource to 3rd world and Communist countries who have no problem with child labor or dangerous working conditions. How did you ever expect to compete? I was just in Vegas and toured the Rodeo convention... This industry understands it seems, Buy locally made, Keep the skills needed here and make a way better product which outlasts the cheap Chinese chit. I must hand it to the cowboys(no not the team ) To identify and protect their industry Sorry, Identifying NAFTA as the culprit is an uninformed opinion on worldwide business. unions were valid when they were needed, now they are just a drain on the economy... BTW, for all you pro union people, who pays for the 25.00 dollar an hour janitor that sweeps the floors at night? THE CONSUMERS, or the people that want their product... is it not ok to hire a 16 year old kid for minimum wage to sweep the floors? I suppose if your so against unions you can give back your weekends, social security,child labor laws,health and safety laws,overtime pay etc etc. the government regulates that now, no thanks are needed... still didn't answer the question... Your question is not well thought out. If you can find a 16 year old to sweep a floor at midnight in a large corporate building or retail establishment you would violate child labor laws. Most of these floor sweepers are adults. The average ceo makes 354 times more than the average worker. If wages were attached to the productivity increases the average pay would be 18 an hour. Our trouble is our greedy CEO's not the working stiff trying to make enough to eat.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 12/28/13 06:33 AM
If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it is reasonable to shoot back with your own gun. Not at the head, where a fatal wound might result. But at some other body part, such as a leg." If you are going to pop caps, right in the 4 ring, head and heart, pop two just to make sure.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 12/28/13 06:34 AM
If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it is reasonable to shoot back with your own gun. Not at the head, where a fatal wound might result. But at some other body part, such as a leg." The Manual says at the Biggest Body-Mass,Not a Kneecap! as I am not a gun owner, (and the dala lama may not be one either), I don't know about manuals or what they say Im just responding to the opinion that others introduced into the discussion So admitting that you know nothing about a subject..... why would you feel you can comment on it with any logic? Most Odumboites are that way.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 12/28/13 10:47 AM Edited by msharmony on Sat 12/28/13 11:44 AM
Im not calling anyone losers,,,, Socrates is,,,,

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 12/28/13 11:08 AM
Im not calling anyone losers,,,, Socrates is,,,, Really? Don't believe so, more like this: http://elsaiselsa.hubpages.com/hub/Critical-Thinking-vs-Stupid-Opinions

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 12/28/13 11:48 AM
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HER REGARDNG STUPID LOGIC notice? the examples she give have to do with claims of what 'all' of someone does or what 'noone' does? sound familiar?

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 12/28/13 01:32 PM
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HER REGARDNG STUPID LOGIC notice? the examples she give have to do with claims of what 'all' of someone does or what 'noone' does? sound familiar? No but this does: "For those hanging onto poor thinking, the situation is different. They live with a distorting mirror, which reflects them back to themselves as tolerant, caring, good, kind, nice, politically correct, and so on. Time for that mirror to be cracked and shattered into small pieces, so they can see - like the emperor parading around naked - that they are not mentally well dressed. My hope is that, slowly but surely, better thinking will prevail - in part through the efforts of all those on the side of good thinking, clear thinking, critical thinking." For my part, I'm not tolerant of idiots, I really don't care, and never politically correct. A spade is a spade and I don't have a problem pointing it out.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 12/28/13 01:35 PM
and most here look in that mirror right now thinking it pertains to them,,, that they are so obviously the ones on the side of 'good thinking' oh well,,,

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 12/28/13 01:36 PM Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 12/28/13 01:42 PM
Im not calling anyone losers,,,, Socrates is,,,, Isn't that the Guy who got the Slopbucket with the Night-Soil emptied all over him? So much for Winner! Then later they made him drink that Cup of Hemlock as well!

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 12/28/13 02:03 PM
and yet all those pesky textbooks include him as a brilliant philosopher,,,go figure,,,

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 12/28/13 02:56 PM
and yet all those pesky textbooks include him as a brilliant philosopher,,,go figure,,, Much like that book that instills Jesus as a brilliant philosopher and look at the results there.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 12/28/13 03:04 PM Edited by msharmony on Sat 12/28/13 03:05 PM
yes,,, lets just do away with stupid books,, or documents, that don't create perfect and flawless results, that put some men and people in higher esteem than others,,,or of better knowledge,, and just rely on mans instincts and desires to learn how to live together and progress,,, lol

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sat 12/28/13 06:07 PM Edited by mightymoe on Sat 12/28/13 06:32 PM
Conrad, what do you mean by "big labor?" What in the world is that? Sleeping Partners of Big Oil,Big Steel,Big Pharma,Big Corporations! And the Sleeping Partners of Big Government! The Marriage who wrecked Detroit! Nafta free trade and global capitalism wrecked Detroit. These results were forseen by many who were against them at the time. Of course one can parrot the corporate controlled medias line all day but its not a well thought out statement. Unions were a necessary solution to corporate greed way back... They add a increase in costs to goods... But maintain a fair playing field in regards to corporate mistreatment and unites the average blue collar worker to stand up to corporate abuses. Things have changed since the mid fifties... Your economy(and mine) decided to outsource to 3rd world and Communist countries who have no problem with child labor or dangerous working conditions. How did you ever expect to compete? I was just in Vegas and toured the Rodeo convention... This industry understands it seems, Buy locally made, Keep the skills needed here and make a way better product which outlasts the cheap Chinese chit. I must hand it to the cowboys(no not the team ) To identify and protect their industry Sorry, Identifying NAFTA as the culprit is an uninformed opinion on worldwide business. unions were valid when they were needed, now they are just a drain on the economy... BTW, for all you pro union people, who pays for the 25.00 dollar an hour janitor that sweeps the floors at night? THE CONSUMERS, or the people that want their product... is it not ok to hire a 16 year old kid for minimum wage to sweep the floors? I suppose if your so against unions you can give back your weekends, social security,child labor laws,health and safety laws,overtime pay etc etc. the government regulates that now, no thanks are needed... still didn't answer the question... Your question is not well thought out. If you can find a 16 year old to sweep a floor at midnight in a large corporate building or retail establishment you would violate child labor laws. Most of these floor sweepers are adults. The average ceo makes 354 times more than the average worker. If wages were attached to the productivity increases the average pay would be 18 an hour. Our trouble is our greedy CEO's not the working stiff trying to make enough to eat. your right, i won't argue with that part...while i do think it's a big problem, unions are still another big part of the problem... Chevy took most of their employees out of the unions, by moving the major plants to Mexico and other places... but they won't lower the price of the cars because of the CEO and board members are taking more of the profits saved by less labor costs...