1. Required or commanded by authority; obligatory:

Mandatory regularly scheduled check ups!

Women are already advised to have regular mamograms!

when you take away the choice it is communism

it is defiantly not a freedom

i will now have to be against him even more now

it also makes it sound like he sold out

to the health insurance lobby

kinda like seat belts

keep the injuries down keeps the insurance expenditures down

once yer an adult it should be your choice

Anything "mandatory" by the gov't has got to be wrong!

Preventative healthcare options and programs should be offered, but *requiring* someone to take certain tests or undergo certain procedures because someone somewhere said it's "recommended" is just too invasive. And what about those who can't afford these "mandatory" tests under the current medical system? Are the taxpayers going to have to take on the burden of that segment of the population too?

And don't even get me started on Sandra Day stepping down when she did...as a woman, her departure really concerns me in a lot of these areas. If these justices are appointed for life, there's a lot of bill-passing that could really affect me in future.

Ai yi yi...I could go on...

bay i am liking you more all the time

adju!

It's all just common sense, isn't it??

I just have to laugh at some of the things these politicians will say or do just to get a vote.

but the scary thing is

how many fall for it

mandatory check up now

what will it be next

sterilization if you do not meet certain specs

i just wonder how many liberties the "people"
will let be taken away for the false sense of security

that is what is scary

but i hope no one uses that as a justification for sterilization

Hey, you bring up a whole other thread all together.

The masses have already passed these "not-so-private" privacy laws because of that "false sense of security" that you bring up. The gov't has too many liberties as it is, but people just think, "Oh, it doesn't affect me 'cuz I have nothing to hide". Umm...yeah...I am just waiting for that landmark case that exposes all the flaws in this "ideal".

Ok...I think I'm done with my political ranting tonight.

Let's see what's happening in the sex threads...

I guess for me, I can't seem to wrap myself up in these types of 'ideas' because I can't even get past, how they would be funded. The tax dollars we currently pay, do not even cover all the things they are suppose to. This is why the states are forever finding new things to tax or reasons to raise and existing tax. This is also the reason that the Federal Government extends entitlements to programs appropriated at the state level. This is also a big reason why our government is so deep into a defeceit.
Most people are already paying about $25 out of every $100 in wages. How much is too much. When will we finally say, I earned that money, for the benefit of my family. What benefits my family is a well run ethical government, which I am happy to support, not one that interfers with or contols the funding policies of entitlements.

The healthcare industry has issues. But this is a society based on free enterprise. To request that the government get involved, is to open that same door to every business venture in the U.S. A business stays in business by suppling products or services that fill a need. If businesses stopped using those who refused to fulfill that need perhaps they would change their policy.

As far as those without healthcare. Again, this is a capitalist society based on free enterprise. Health insurance is available to everyone, but not on a free basis.

Those who do not make enough money to pay for this benefit, those who are employable but not working due to lack of work in their field or due to lack of jobs, are certainly entitled to something. However, that something should not come in the form of a business run through the hands of the Federal Government, nor one appropriated and/or controled by same goverment. What that something is, is a government willing to review the reasons why we are in economic crisis. Why there are so many uninsured, and then to further do thier jobs by providing the way and the means for American to improve their status through that SAME FREE ENTERPRISE. That is a big part of what our Federal tax dollars were meant to pay for. Not entitlement, and not government held or run businesses.

maybe we should quit funding foreign govts

we send enough money to countries that do not
want us there anyway

causing the corruption in said govts

i say we cut that aid first

and use the money here

and if you add up all the money the govt takes you will find it is more than 25%

just make a list

income tax (fed state, and city for some)

social security tax 7% with employer match (raises cost of product)

sales tax in most states 6-7.5% around here

fuel tax $0.20 federal i think plus state share $0.22 here i think per gallon

tax(or govt fees) on various utilities above the sales tax

just to name a few

Hello Robin and Di

Just wondering, do you have a government funded medi-care...bulk-billing system in place now??

The only disturbing thing I see is MANDATORY....in all of that...

It is MANDATORY that part of our taxes here, go into a public health scheme...'Medicare'...and we have a 'top up' system where low income earners are eligible for 'bulk billing' and pharmeceutical subsidies..

there is a health care system (govt funded) for poor

but not really for above the poverty level

elderly have medicare but that is part of the social security system which they have paid into usually

adju there is a gov funded health care for the dead beats...none for those that just can't afford it.

um....... i just thought mandatory health care meant it is mandatory to be available.... whether you use it or not

here in Amsterdam for instance, women over 45 have an automatic invitation for a mamogram every year. But if one chooses not to do that or for what ever reason does not take advantage of it, they are still entitled to receive it within the rights of our mandatory health care.


it is mandatory to provide it, not mandatory to use it.

OK, OK, Uncle devinci!

Maybe your way is the only way to deal with these mind sets!

I agree to disagree and wont analyse your posts so deep!

Take the zipper off and let loose!!!!!!

The government couldn't even run a brothel in Nevada and you want them to be in charge of healthcare?

but alex

you forget where we are

and the way the system likes to manipulate
the people it will state that way

but then when you least expect it

the deal will change

you used to have a lot of the freedoms here
that they have in amsterdam

till they changed the deal

----for your own good of course----

it is a slippery slope the way things are worded
can make a world of difference 10 years down the road

you put the idea in the head

oh it is ok that is not what ""we"" mean
but then when the ""we"" changes

there are new interpreters of what was written

and all of the sudden

it has a whole different meaning

if you need an example of this

just look back to some documents written in the 1700s

Ok what I understand from this is.....its universal which means what? Everyone has healthcare for a low set price depending on how much you make? And mandatory, going to the doctor to find out if you have something, BEFORE you end up with Stage 4 cancer......hmmmm doesnt sound like a bad idea to me. What you see as something "mandatory" against your rights, I see as a very smart way to manage your health.

True, we as people, especially me, do not like being told what to do but what if the healthcare was available to everyone for a lower price......I don't know what exactly your "universal" healthcare means in the states so would someone please explain it to me as it may be different there!

Btw.......isnt anything better than private healthcare where you are being bombarded by health insurance companies???

Yes,,,, a voice of reason and common sense!!!!!!!