So it's kind of odd lately, but I've been thinking, and thinkin' without figuring too much about it either. What appears to me evident is that science will borrow from biology greatly in the coming years. Historically, I think that this will raise Darwin's work above even the level of credit it recieves in the history of ideas today, which if you watch you tube video or the like on human future or past will run into easily enough. There are simple ideas that can be applied not so much as they specifically relate to life and DNA and whatever else comes to mind when one speaks of the nitty-gritty make up of life and the pieces of this evolution machine. But rather, a time when simple specks or parts of it are borrowed in the hopes that what worked in that department of science will also work in this one. Smolin uses a grandfather clause for the propogation of universes through or by black holes, which merely says one thing in common with Darwin's thinking, and that is an offspring is likely to come from fertile parents, which in his case mean universe came from a previous birth-source universe that had conditions for black holes. Interestingly, how ever far out this idea seems, it sets limits on the observation on expects in terms of mass of black holes in our current universe, none of which have been contridicted to date.

So those are neat ideas, and example what is called biological or evolutionary principles in physics. They look handy for the current job, which in my opinion is to set up a base or template for laws that evolve dynamically through time. This means that no absolutes or eternal truths exist in science, at least.

It doesn't really ease my gut about where things are going, though. Much is to be had in the way of satisfaction- actually feeling good about an ideas soundness deep down. The type of ideas that anwser the questions about consciousness or the like that haunt my soul. But the thinking is better than strings, whose tremendous beauty and attraction were really repulsive to me. Too much was the message that flashed between my eyes. Sometimes, if I'm feeling very generous with myself, I fancy that i'm movie cartoon romantic, but setting me down with a glass slipper is too kind. I'd rather make my own shoe, and know how to make it fit right, or hobble without grumblings aimed at a cobbler. Then again, I am a target customer for a "mender of bad soles."

What is interesting, or at leat the main importance here, is that the physical laws might evolve or arise through some selection method. Each momnet of time would be a deciding point that leads to some future event. The group behavoir described by the laws which we now encapsulate nature by is a development of occurences that happened in a casual relation to form simply the habits of nature. What is in experiment as witness in labs or elsewhere is a trend or trait of what nature likes to do, of what is efficient at the time. The passage of time is paramount because it is seen as the enabler from one state of reality, or the present situation, to another. Thinking vaguely and slightly mathematically, this could be seen as a trace of momentum from slices, but one that is not conserved. That is another thing, hit lightly on above, that namely all laws change at each event, or there is some point of participation in the universe that then lets us look for patterns of information. It's a tough nut to crack, and my thinking tells me it is a dream more than what makes up the usual experience of reality. So I'm trying to incorporate my dream substance into reality, but isn't that the objective of most psycho therapies? It will turn out or it won't.

What is really gnawing at me is that there might be some deeper meaning that I'm muddling through. I have to look at it instead of anything else. Another troublesome concern is what to think about gr? Some theorists, who I'm increasingly taken up by, want to look for substitutes for gr, and godspeed and all the power to them. I'm just not sure about my own primative ideas for it. Can analogy to magnetics evern be born out in a consistent or meaningful way logically? Is that just working with too few puzzle pieces? So it's a semi dark time, but the light of what is thought draws me out, or the poison in my soul. I almost pulled a Archimedes this morning when I thought of all these ideas, but no, I wasn't in the shower, or bath. Almost is no cake though, but such is ideal human hogwash anyway. I'm not worried about the sweets now anyway, I'll let them pass.

This pretty much leaves me in a daze. With one thought left last. The expansion took place, and it took time to get here. Throughout that it would develop, if any of that above rambling holds valid. A development entails change of limits, and the one that is the most important is the value of c. So light between development points, or events, would be something of a biological clock for evolution. The term ratio comes to mind, as it is illustrative, and how my mind works.

With that said, I can really only think of a guitar that I'm supposed to check out that I found for sale online. It's a cheapy, but if it plays well or decent, I might hop. That is, if the chap doesn't have a "change in plans" again. So I'm counting down the hours now. 3-5, maybe six? Ah, oh well, who needs efficiency anyway...

... well, we know that thinking... deep thinking can seem useless to some, but it is a wonderful way to get to know yourself. I hate too much noise. It is a distraction from my thought process. I could live in a place with very little of it. My mind goes on and on and is self-entertaining. I do not need others to keep me entertained, though enjoying the company and thoughts of others is wonderful as well. It is simply that I can keep myself entertained for hours, days, weeks... indeed.. possibly even months... if need be. :D hahaha At any rate, I think it is an interesting concept that perhaps our universe came out of the back side of a black hole in another universe... or some such. It would be time consuming, really. Contrary to popular belief, black holes do not suck. They don't. Once in a great while, something falls into one... and it is truly amazing to watch what happens. There is a time warp along with it. We see the slow tearing up of whatever falls in. It takes a long time for something huge to be torn up... from our side of it. In reality, it happens instantaneously to whatever is falling into the hole, but something about our point of view makes it last longer from our side. How crazy is that?

What happens to all of that mass that falls into the black hole? It does not get any larger, hence it cannot be gaining mass, right? This is where your comments come to light as something quite possible. This does, however, pose a new question. If the stuff that falls out the other side is creating a universe, then does this occur with each item that falls in, or do they combine until there is enough energy that... BANG? I don't know about you, but I do not intend to drop anything into one in order to find out...I'm just posing a question.

Darwinism is highly overrated. It does not work when it comes to man. Only some of the various hominids on our planet actually have DNA ties, and there are huge jumps in some cases between one form of man and others, while others overlap. The only thing that is for certain... man and dinosaur never walked the Earth at the same time. :D We simply keep on using Darwinism because nothing better has been figured out to replace it with. I believe that it is only when we meet other intelligent species that we will ever truly find out...

As for noise, I find that just a little background is very nice for concentrating, because the mind has to tune it out to focus, and when it does that, any other possible disturbance falls to the wayside, and doesn't get through. It's like a bug net for the occasional biter. I think I have entertained a train of thought that I could recall constantly for a few months, to the degree that I could think about the weeks bygone by the progress of the thought. Once this happened in Highschool, and if I looked like a zombie, or was entirely unresponsive on the school bus, such was the cause. Another time had to do with time, and I ended up talking to a friend-type from grade school up to that college year, resulting in the opinion, coming through the mouth of her friend that I was involved with, that I was out there in my own world, a notion I don't deny. The girl I ran into, the friend-type, was so shaken (i guess?) that she called my brother and asked him to check up on me. So of course I had to tell him all the nonesense I told her that got me in trouble in the first place, and all I could muster for limp conclusion was "that's were thinking for months on months straight gets you..."

What happens to the 'lost' mass is the question. It is something of a wonder that black holes to seem to exhibit such extreme behavior. It also radiates, so that might be something of a weak explanation, and I think that it's temperature increases. My first thoughts on the matter is that what happens to the mass is that it itself is warped and changed something like the time, that is that the value of unit mass changes in respect to gravitation. Then the energy loss would be of no msytery. The fact that it happens so infrequently that bodies fall very slowly in or condense or whatnot, which is also exhibited perhaps most clearly in the light cone diagrams, would make it more reasonable as a limiting case, or why it doesn't have a shifting effect all the time. But the idea that you speak of that the discontinous nature of growth of the black hole, if such a vague term will be passed, is perhaps a mass constraint that could be used observationally. Such that a certain contraction process happens with only so much mass could be a stipulation of Smolin's Precedence or Progency principle. Read his Temperal Naturalism paper for a summary of his current theoretical and philosophical thinking. Another alternative is that black holes really aren't rare, that they exist in any discontinous process. I could drop anything around into a black hole without second thought.

About the time constraints, evidence in the cosmological background noise, which I think all can agree about its importance for physical thinking, or lack of it for a time changing development that would be expected with ideas of a meshy universe, if there were such an event it would likely be an accumulation of many.

However nice and thrilling it would be to meet a truly new life form, I don't think that it is neccessary for understanding a world view that has also in it the correct development of man. This stems in most part from the BELIEF that the true origins of reality having nothing to do with what human or life forms exhibit on it through thought or observation. I don't know if it will ever be known. And I think that the value of Darwin's scheme is what it will influence in the hard sciences and that people of thought will use it as a tool and analogy, also contributing to the borrow or give and take of physics and biological sciences that is currently increasing. So if Darwinism is to have it's place, it is in breeding the next one up on the ladder of theoretical physics, which would have it's place later when looking back at a history. Ultimately, it may not be the way to do science, and most absolute-reality explanations are generally regarded in the sphere religious experience, but if physics is an unruly teenager to philosophy or religion, it is not a phase that should be interfered with.

In sum of the black hole idea and other good points raised, I personally think that beholding order that could go beyond one event or universe is both natural and deeply religious.

Or if you like a more modern reply about where the mass goes, the very end of this blog entry or whatever it is says that momentum has a limit in a certain sense because in Lie algebra it coils curls around itself and acts massless, so there are some weird dynamics going on there. http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week232.html

Now that I've thought about it some more, the evolutionary thought trends in science won't be useful, but borrowing specific ideas is sometimes a modicum, and will continue with varied success. The basis is not evolutionary in the since of Darwinism, but biological analogies may help.