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Wed 10/30/13 09:01 AM

28 Signs That The West Coast Is Being Absolutely Fried With Nuclear Radiation From Fukushima

Every single day, 300 tons of radioactive water from Fukushima enters the Pacific Ocean. That means that the total amount of radioactive material released from Fukushima is constantly increasing, and it is steadily building up in our food chain.

Ultimately, all of this nuclear radiation will outlive all of us by a very wide margin. They are saying that it could take up to 40 years to clean up the Fukushima disaster, and meanwhile countless innocent people will develop cancer and other health problems as a result of exposure to high levels of nuclear radiation. We are talking about a nuclear disaster that is absolutely unprecedented, and it is constantly getting worse. The following are 28 signs that the west coast of North America is being absolutely fried with nuclear radiation from Fukushima…

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http://www.endalldisease.com/28-signs-west-coast-absolutely-fried-nuclear-radiation-fukushima/

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Wed 10/30/13 10:43 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Wed 10/30/13 10:46 AM
If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!

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Wed 10/30/13 12:02 PM


28 Signs That The West Coast Is Being Absolutely Fried With Nuclear Radiation From Fukushima

Every single day, 300 tons of radioactive water from Fukushima enters the Pacific Ocean. That means that the total amount of radioactive material released from Fukushima is constantly increasing, and it is steadily building up in our food chain.

Ultimately, all of this nuclear radiation will outlive all of us by a very wide margin. They are saying that it could take up to 40 years to clean up the Fukushima disaster, and meanwhile countless innocent people will develop cancer and other health problems as a result of exposure to high levels of nuclear radiation. We are talking about a nuclear disaster that is absolutely unprecedented, and it is constantly getting worse. The following are 28 signs that the west coast of North America is being absolutely fried with nuclear radiation from Fukushima…

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http://www.endalldisease.com/28-signs-west-coast-absolutely-fried-nuclear-radiation-fukushima/


I just love it when I read such statements written by people who know nothing about the shielding effect of water.

/sarc

First, it isn't the water that is radioactive. It is the particles dissolved in the water that are radioactive.

Second, water acts as a shield against radiation. The more water, the better the shielding.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 10/30/13 12:05 PM

If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc

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Wed 10/30/13 12:45 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Wed 10/30/13 12:47 PM


If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc


There hasn't been any properly working power production out of Fukushima since the meltdowns, so what am I misrepresenting?...Tell me; I'd love to know.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 10/30/13 04:09 PM



If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc


There hasn't been any properly working power production out of Fukushima since the meltdowns, so what am I misrepresenting?...Tell me; I'd love to know.


It takes more that a couple of fuel rods banging together (as if they could bang together) for a nuclear reactor to have a sustained nuclear reaction.

I will admit that it has been awhile since my training at an active nuclear reactor. Yet, the principles of nuclear power production haven't changed, because nuclear physics haven't changed.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Wed 10/30/13 05:17 PM




If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc


There hasn't been any properly working power production out of Fukushima since the meltdowns, so what am I misrepresenting?...Tell me; I'd love to know.


It takes more that a couple of fuel rods banging together (as if they could bang together) for a nuclear reactor to have a sustained nuclear reaction.

I will admit that it has been awhile since my training at an active nuclear reactor. Yet, the principles of nuclear power production haven't changed, because nuclear physics haven't changed.



What I said about the danger of criticality at unit 4 stands.

I don't think you are familiar enough with the disaster or with unit 4 to see the very real hazards. To acquaint you with the hazards of nuclear power gone awry, I'm providing you with a series of links regarding both Chernobyl and Fukushima, and reminding you that fukushima is already an order of magnitude worse than chernobyl ever was, even without the additional "contribution" of the rods in unit 4 (which will make it probably ten times worse than it already is, which would then be 100 times worse than Chernobyl.)

http://akiomatsumura.com/fukushima-one-year-later-focus-on-reactor-4

http://enenews.com/yale-professor-fukushima-unit-4-pool-in-perilous-condition-all-of-humanity-will-be-threatened-for-thousands-of-years-if-not-able-to-be-kept-cool-danger-of-it-collapsing-in-storm-or-during-a

http://americablog.com/2013/10/fukushima-update-three-reactor-cores-melted-earth-accident-tepco-still-charge.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/25/73-magnitude-earthquake-hits-japan/
(I think we dodged a bullet!)

http://enenews.com/gundersen-deformities-stillbirths-kept-secret-after-fukushima-officials-not-being-honest-with-public-about-health-effects-govt-suppressing-studies-on-deformities-in-animals-audio

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VffZ2sSZ30M
(Chernobyl kids)

http://climatechange.umaine.edu/icecores/IceCore/Radioactivity.html

In the last URL, check the South Pole Ice Cores to compare Chernobyl with most of the nuclear tests (and remember that Chernobyl is farther away from Antarctica than where the Chinese test of 1964 was held.

no photo
Wed 10/30/13 05:24 PM




If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc


There hasn't been any properly working power production out of Fukushima since the meltdowns, so what am I misrepresenting?...Tell me; I'd love to know.


It takes more that a couple of fuel rods banging together (as if they could bang together) for a nuclear reactor to have a sustained nuclear reaction.

I will admit that it has been awhile since my training at an active nuclear reactor. Yet, the principles of nuclear power production haven't changed, because nuclear physics haven't changed.


Were you trained at the nuclear plant in Hebei northern province of China?
Just wondering?spock

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 10/30/13 07:07 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Wed 10/30/13 07:17 PM





If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc


There hasn't been any properly working power production out of Fukushima since the meltdowns, so what am I misrepresenting?...Tell me; I'd love to know.


It takes more that a couple of fuel rods banging together (as if they could bang together) for a nuclear reactor to have a sustained nuclear reaction.

I will admit that it has been awhile since my training at an active nuclear reactor. Yet, the principles of nuclear power production haven't changed, because nuclear physics haven't changed.



What I said about the danger of criticality at unit 4 stands.

I don't think you are familiar enough with the disaster or with unit 4 to see the very real hazards. To acquaint you with the hazards of nuclear power gone awry, I'm providing you with a series of links regarding both Chernobyl and Fukushima, and reminding you that fukushima is already an order of magnitude worse than chernobyl ever was, even without the additional "contribution" of the rods in unit 4 (which will make it probably ten times worse than it already is, which would then be 100 times worse than Chernobyl.)

http://akiomatsumura.com/fukushima-one-year-later-focus-on-reactor-4

http://enenews.com/yale-professor-fukushima-unit-4-pool-in-perilous-condition-all-of-humanity-will-be-threatened-for-thousands-of-years-if-not-able-to-be-kept-cool-danger-of-it-collapsing-in-storm-or-during-a

http://americablog.com/2013/10/fukushima-update-three-reactor-cores-melted-earth-accident-tepco-still-charge.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/25/73-magnitude-earthquake-hits-japan/
(I think we dodged a bullet!)

http://enenews.com/gundersen-deformities-stillbirths-kept-secret-after-fukushima-officials-not-being-honest-with-public-about-health-effects-govt-suppressing-studies-on-deformities-in-animals-audio

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VffZ2sSZ30M
(Chernobyl kids)

http://climatechange.umaine.edu/icecores/IceCore/Radioactivity.html

In the last URL, check the South Pole Ice Cores to compare Chernobyl with most of the nuclear tests (and remember that Chernobyl is farther away from Antarctica than where the Chinese test of 1964 was held.


Dude, I was reading classified information about the Chernobyl disaster before mere civilians were permitted to learn the details about that disaster.

I didn't say that the Fukushima disaster wasn't a disaster. I merely pointed out that there is more to nuclear power production than meets the untrained eye.

Anyway, here is are excerpts from a 31 August 2013 NBC News story about Fukushima.

Ocean simulations showed that the plume of radioactive cesium-137 released by the Fukushima disaster in 2011 could begin flowing into U.S. coastal waters starting in early 2014 and peak in 2016. Luckily, two ocean currents off the eastern coast of Japan,�� the Kuroshio Current and the Kuroshio Extension, has diluted the radioactive material so much that its concentration fell well below the World Health Organization'��s safety levels within four months of the Fukushima incident.


The release of cesium-137 from Fukushima in Japan'��s more turbulent eastern currents means the radioactive material is diluted to the point of posing little threat to humans by the time it leaves Japan'��s coastal waters.


If you want accurate information about Fukushima, then use a reliable scientific source such as the FAQ from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. It is at http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=83397&tid=3622&cid=94989


Blogs and websites that promote fear-mongering aren't helpful and spread misinformation.

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Thu 10/31/13 12:55 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Thu 10/31/13 01:03 AM






If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc


There hasn't been any properly working power production out of Fukushima since the meltdowns, so what am I misrepresenting?...Tell me; I'd love to know.


It takes more that a couple of fuel rods banging together (as if they could bang together) for a nuclear reactor to have a sustained nuclear reaction.

I will admit that it has been awhile since my training at an active nuclear reactor. Yet, the principles of nuclear power production haven't changed, because nuclear physics haven't changed.



What I said about the danger of criticality at unit 4 stands.

I don't think you are familiar enough with the disaster or with unit 4 to see the very real hazards. To acquaint you with the hazards of nuclear power gone awry, I'm providing you with a series of links regarding both Chernobyl and Fukushima, and reminding you that fukushima is already an order of magnitude worse than chernobyl ever was, even without the additional "contribution" of the rods in unit 4 (which will make it probably ten times worse than it already is, which would then be 100 times worse than Chernobyl.)

http://akiomatsumura.com/fukushima-one-year-later-focus-on-reactor-4

http://enenews.com/yale-professor-fukushima-unit-4-pool-in-perilous-condition-all-of-humanity-will-be-threatened-for-thousands-of-years-if-not-able-to-be-kept-cool-danger-of-it-collapsing-in-storm-or-during-a

http://americablog.com/2013/10/fukushima-update-three-reactor-cores-melted-earth-accident-tepco-still-charge.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/25/73-magnitude-earthquake-hits-japan/
(I think we dodged a bullet!)

http://enenews.com/gundersen-deformities-stillbirths-kept-secret-after-fukushima-officials-not-being-honest-with-public-about-health-effects-govt-suppressing-studies-on-deformities-in-animals-audio

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VffZ2sSZ30M
(Chernobyl kids)

http://climatechange.umaine.edu/icecores/IceCore/Radioactivity.html

In the last URL, check the South Pole Ice Cores to compare Chernobyl with most of the nuclear tests (and remember that Chernobyl is farther away from Antarctica than where the Chinese test of 1964 was held.


Dude, I was reading classified information about the Chernobyl disaster before mere civilians were permitted to learn the details about that disaster.

I didn't say that the Fukushima disaster wasn't a disaster. I merely pointed out that there is more to nuclear power production than meets the untrained eye.

Anyway, here is are excerpts from a 31 August 2013 NBC News story about Fukushima.

Ocean simulations showed that the plume of radioactive cesium-137 released by the Fukushima disaster in 2011 could begin flowing into U.S. coastal waters starting in early 2014 and peak in 2016. Luckily, two ocean currents off the eastern coast of Japan,�� the Kuroshio Current and the Kuroshio Extension, has diluted the radioactive material so much that its concentration fell well below the World Health Organization'��s safety levels within four months of the Fukushima incident.


The release of cesium-137 from Fukushima in Japan'��s more turbulent eastern currents means the radioactive material is diluted to the point of posing little threat to humans by the time it leaves Japan'��s coastal waters.


If you want accurate information about Fukushima, then use a reliable scientific source such as the FAQ from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. It is at http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=83397&tid=3622&cid=94989


Blogs and websites that promote fear-mongering aren't helpful and spread misinformation.


It is unintelligent to say the least to imply that the only real danger from Fukushima is carried in the currents of the Pacific Ocean. While the fallout from the meltdowns does spread thru the ocean, the poisoning of the Pacific is NOT The only problem. The WORST of it is spread quickly in the atmosphere. The ATMOSPHERIC fallout from the initial explosions has already circumnavigated the globe and long half-life radiosotopes have been deposited everywhere on the planet! While some areas (like Antarctica) got less fallout, many (like north America's west coast) got FAR more of it. Some fell as contaminated rain and was taken up in the roots of now contaminated food crops (particularly from California). Cattle have grazed on contaminated grass & hay over the last two years, so food being slaughtered now is probably unfit for human consumption...best to check the meat (or vegetables) it with a scintillator to see. As you should know, the higher you get up the food chain, the greater the concentration of heavy isotopes.

We've already been eating contaminated food for two years now, and the contamination hasn't gone away...we ate it and continue to do so. Most of the rain that falls, while worse two years ago, is still bad enough to give you high readings of radioactivity. I remember watching someone at Lake Louise driving down the highway in the rain two years ago. He stopped his car, wiped a little rain off it and took a reading. His detector quickly went off scale and warned him to leave the area immediately!! A lot of us formed a network to monitor the radiation at many points in North America, since we couldn't trust the American readings (and in Canada, they had snapped into action immediately & quit taking them altogether!!...Canada no longer monitors japanese goods for radioactivity. (unlike places like Russia, Brazil & China, all of whom have rejected shipments of things like cars for radioactivity far exceeding their standards) At any rate, as he took the reading, with all the alarms going off on his detector, a motorcyclist went by on the highway...he was obviously totally oblivious to the fact that he was bathing himself in heavily contaminated water as he rode down the highway...I felt sorry for him, thinking he might one day get cancer, quite possibly caused by his riding in the rain without ever even suspecting a little rain might have caused it (He;d probably attribute it to smoking or second hand smoke like most people would)

I've lost too many friends to cancer over the years, lung cancer in particular...and more than half of them never even smoked! I feel quite certain that probably half the cancers & leukemia we've experienced over the years have been caused by nuclear tests from the 50s & sixties, and of course our nuclear accidents, two or three of which have been far far worse than the bomb tests. Just a guess of course, and the data is sketchy...My hypothesis is thus far unprovable, but don't think for a minute that I've given up trying to isolate the variables in my attempts to find corroborating correlations...The research is ongoing, and while suggestive, is certainly not conclusive or even suggestive enough to make assertions...not just yet, anyway. I have however "proved" my hypothesis to myself to the extent that I haven't quit researching it.

One "little hint" that something went wrong at Fukushima can be found in the "spiking" of stillbirths on the north American west coast. MANY babies have already died before they even had a chance to take their first breath! I would not want to be the mother of a stillbirth these days, because I'd never know why my baby was a stillbirth...I'd only have a "gut feeling" that the accident at Fukushima caused it.

no photo
Thu 10/31/13 08:50 AM






If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc


There hasn't been any properly working power production out of Fukushima since the meltdowns, so what am I misrepresenting?...Tell me; I'd love to know.


It takes more that a couple of fuel rods banging together (as if they could bang together) for a nuclear reactor to have a sustained nuclear reaction.

I will admit that it has been awhile since my training at an active nuclear reactor. Yet, the principles of nuclear power production haven't changed, because nuclear physics haven't changed.



What I said about the danger of criticality at unit 4 stands.

I don't think you are familiar enough with the disaster or with unit 4 to see the very real hazards. To acquaint you with the hazards of nuclear power gone awry, I'm providing you with a series of links regarding both Chernobyl and Fukushima, and reminding you that fukushima is already an order of magnitude worse than chernobyl ever was, even without the additional "contribution" of the rods in unit 4 (which will make it probably ten times worse than it already is, which would then be 100 times worse than Chernobyl.)

http://akiomatsumura.com/fukushima-one-year-later-focus-on-reactor-4

http://enenews.com/yale-professor-fukushima-unit-4-pool-in-perilous-condition-all-of-humanity-will-be-threatened-for-thousands-of-years-if-not-able-to-be-kept-cool-danger-of-it-collapsing-in-storm-or-during-a

http://americablog.com/2013/10/fukushima-update-three-reactor-cores-melted-earth-accident-tepco-still-charge.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/25/73-magnitude-earthquake-hits-japan/
(I think we dodged a bullet!)

http://enenews.com/gundersen-deformities-stillbirths-kept-secret-after-fukushima-officials-not-being-honest-with-public-about-health-effects-govt-suppressing-studies-on-deformities-in-animals-audio

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VffZ2sSZ30M
(Chernobyl kids)

http://climatechange.umaine.edu/icecores/IceCore/Radioactivity.html

In the last URL, check the South Pole Ice Cores to compare Chernobyl with most of the nuclear tests (and remember that Chernobyl is farther away from Antarctica than where the Chinese test of 1964 was held.


Dude, I was reading classified information about the Chernobyl disaster before mere civilians were permitted to learn the details about that disaster.

I didn't say that the Fukushima disaster wasn't a disaster. I merely pointed out that there is more to nuclear power production than meets the untrained eye.

Anyway, here is are excerpts from a 31 August 2013 NBC News story about Fukushima.

Ocean simulations showed that the plume of radioactive cesium-137 released by the Fukushima disaster in 2011 could begin flowing into U.S. coastal waters starting in early 2014 and peak in 2016. Luckily, two ocean currents off the eastern coast of Japan,�� the Kuroshio Current and the Kuroshio Extension, has diluted the radioactive material so much that its concentration fell well below the World Health Organization'��s safety levels within four months of the Fukushima incident.


The release of cesium-137 from Fukushima in Japan'��s more turbulent eastern currents means the radioactive material is diluted to the point of posing little threat to humans by the time it leaves Japan'��s coastal waters.


If you want accurate information about Fukushima, then use a reliable scientific source such as the FAQ from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. It is at http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=83397&tid=3622&cid=94989


Blogs and websites that promote fear-mongering aren't helpful and spread misinformation.


We used to get some news from the Hebei Province.
But not in a while.sad2

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Thu 10/31/13 09:12 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Thu 10/31/13 09:13 AM







If you think it's bad now, just wait...Reactor 4's rods are essentially uninsulated and unstable, subject to any vibration...All it takes is a shaking sufficient to make a couple of those fuel rods bang together to start a criticality fission reaction that will bathe the planet in ten time the radiation already released.
North America has already been bathed in enough radioactive contamination to significantly shorten the average lifespan of the average North American. The younger you are, the shorter your life will be on average. I'm guessing that right now, young children in North America can expect to live to be about 60 (on average) thanks to what Fukushima has already done. (We won't really know until about 40 years have elapsed whether or not I'm right).

I can say this much though...If reactor 4 gets shaken enough, the resulting criticality will bathe the planet in TEN TIMES the total radiation already released from Fukushima. At that point, I'm guessing it'll be pretty much over for North America and much of the world, as the average lifespan of a child in N.A. will probably drop to about 40!...maybe even less.

BTW...in the last couple of weeks, there have been two earthquakes by Fukushima...I think they were both over 7 on the Richter scale (I know one was...I'm afraid to check on the other one)...If those rods didn't already bang together, we are very, very, lucky!


I love it when I read such statements that misrepresent how nuclear power production works.

/sarc


There hasn't been any properly working power production out of Fukushima since the meltdowns, so what am I misrepresenting?...Tell me; I'd love to know.


It takes more that a couple of fuel rods banging together (as if they could bang together) for a nuclear reactor to have a sustained nuclear reaction.

I will admit that it has been awhile since my training at an active nuclear reactor. Yet, the principles of nuclear power production haven't changed, because nuclear physics haven't changed.



What I said about the danger of criticality at unit 4 stands.

I don't think you are familiar enough with the disaster or with unit 4 to see the very real hazards. To acquaint you with the hazards of nuclear power gone awry, I'm providing you with a series of links regarding both Chernobyl and Fukushima, and reminding you that fukushima is already an order of magnitude worse than chernobyl ever was, even without the additional "contribution" of the rods in unit 4 (which will make it probably ten times worse than it already is, which would then be 100 times worse than Chernobyl.)

http://akiomatsumura.com/fukushima-one-year-later-focus-on-reactor-4

http://enenews.com/yale-professor-fukushima-unit-4-pool-in-perilous-condition-all-of-humanity-will-be-threatened-for-thousands-of-years-if-not-able-to-be-kept-cool-danger-of-it-collapsing-in-storm-or-during-a

http://americablog.com/2013/10/fukushima-update-three-reactor-cores-melted-earth-accident-tepco-still-charge.html

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/25/73-magnitude-earthquake-hits-japan/
(I think we dodged a bullet!)

http://enenews.com/gundersen-deformities-stillbirths-kept-secret-after-fukushima-officials-not-being-honest-with-public-about-health-effects-govt-suppressing-studies-on-deformities-in-animals-audio

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://enenews.com/asahi-unexpectedly-high-number-of-thyroid-cancers-in-fukushima-children-experts-premature-to-say-fukushima-nuclear-disaster-played-no-role

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VffZ2sSZ30M
(Chernobyl kids)

http://climatechange.umaine.edu/icecores/IceCore/Radioactivity.html

In the last URL, check the South Pole Ice Cores to compare Chernobyl with most of the nuclear tests (and remember that Chernobyl is farther away from Antarctica than where the Chinese test of 1964 was held.


Dude, I was reading classified information about the Chernobyl disaster before mere civilians were permitted to learn the details about that disaster.

I didn't say that the Fukushima disaster wasn't a disaster. I merely pointed out that there is more to nuclear power production than meets the untrained eye.

Anyway, here is are excerpts from a 31 August 2013 NBC News story about Fukushima.

Ocean simulations showed that the plume of radioactive cesium-137 released by the Fukushima disaster in 2011 could begin flowing into U.S. coastal waters starting in early 2014 and peak in 2016. Luckily, two ocean currents off the eastern coast of Japan,�� the Kuroshio Current and the Kuroshio Extension, has diluted the radioactive material so much that its concentration fell well below the World Health Organization'��s safety levels within four months of the Fukushima incident.


The release of cesium-137 from Fukushima in Japan'��s more turbulent eastern currents means the radioactive material is diluted to the point of posing little threat to humans by the time it leaves Japan'��s coastal waters.


If you want accurate information about Fukushima, then use a reliable scientific source such as the FAQ from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. It is at http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=83397&tid=3622&cid=94989


Blogs and websites that promote fear-mongering aren't helpful and spread misinformation.


We used to get some news from the Hebei Province.
But not in a while.sad2


The simple truth is that most of the worlds reactors are poorly designed units, forced by a false economy to "live" far past their predicted life. Quite obviously, the original probability of failure estimates weren't even in the ballpark, and we are now destroying most of the life on this planet (except cockroaches & maybe rats) thanks to miscalculation, corporate greed, gullibility, and apathy.

It may or may not be too late to mothball all of the worlds existing reactors, but if we don't, I have no doubt that the human race is essentially finished.

Provably safe reactor designs exist and have for some time. The only problem they presented was in their lack of plutonium production...Pretty hard to build a decent H Bomb without that lovely plutonium trigger.

In the end, it all comes down to our greed and powerlust overriding even our instinct for self-preservation, as those at the top turn out to be the biggest gamblers of all with other peoples' money.

The historically oh-so-profitable roll of the economic dice is now coming up "craps" on nearly every throw. If we don't stop these loons NOW and IMMEDIATELY START trying to fix the fine mess we've gotten ourselves into, the human race will soon be "crapped out."

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Mon 11/04/13 07:02 PM
Regarding unit 4, it appears some of those rods were already banged together awhile back...hopefully when there was water in the pool.

http://enenews.com/professor-there-are-fuel-rods-probably-fused-in-fukushima-unit-4-pool-now-on-bent-legs-and-lateral-supports-were-not-put-in-when-first-built-ap-international-concern-about-catastrophic-op

The US has a direct interest in the succesful cleanup of Fukushima...probably because those syupid reactors are a badly engineered GE design.

http://enenews.com/energy-secretary-shocked-stunned-after-being-fukushima-plant-unprecedented-daunting-task-ahead-japan-america-direct-interest-tepco-doing-safely-video

OOP...another quake has just delayed things again:

http://enenews.com/postponed-fuel-removal-attempt-at-fukushima-unit-4-delayed-possibly-for-weeks-govt-safety-agency-wants-tests-conducted

no photo
Mon 11/04/13 07:21 PM
The simple truth is,
You don't know what the fk you are talking about.laugh

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 11/04/13 07:42 PM

The simple truth is,
You don't know what the fk you are talking about.laugh


Uh, alleoops, that was uncalled for.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 11/04/13 07:45 PM
I would prefer to get my news about Fukushima from an actual news organization, such as The Japan Daily Press, as opposed to a website dedicated to fear-mongering.

no photo
Mon 11/04/13 07:48 PM


The simple truth is,
You don't know what the fk you are talking about.laugh


Uh, alleoops, that was uncalled for.

I couldn't help it..slaphead

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 11/04/13 08:12 PM



The simple truth is,
You don't know what the fk you are talking about.laugh


Uh, alleoops, that was uncalled for.

I couldn't help it..slaphead


Perhaps you are in need of a vacation to the Hebei Province.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Tue 11/05/13 01:56 AM

The simple truth is,
You don't know what the fk you are talking about.laugh


Is that the best you could do? ...Sounds like projection to me.


I would prefer to get my news about Fukushima from an actual news organization, such as The Japan Daily Press, as opposed to a website dedicated to fear-mongering.


What was that called again?...the A Few growths On Your Baby's Thyroid Are Perfectly Normal and Healthy Press? I'll have to have a look at it. Is that as reliable as the censored-for-public-consumption-NBC-News report you mentioned earlier, or maybe ABC News?:

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3884029.htm

I had a look and sure enough, you're right. There IS watered-down, optimistic news coming out of Japan these days:

http://fukushimaupdate.com/koizumi-defends-changing-stance-on-nuclear-power/

With any luck, someday they won't have any reactors to blow up, melt down, and contaminate the rest of the planet. I feel better already!

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 11/05/13 10:11 AM
Edited by Dodo_David on Tue 11/05/13 10:14 AM


The simple truth is,
You don't know what the fk you are talking about.laugh


Is that the best you could do? ...Sounds like projection to me.


I would prefer to get my news about Fukushima from an actual news organization, such as The Japan Daily Press, as opposed to a website dedicated to fear-mongering.


What was that called again?...the A Few growths On Your Baby's Thyroid Are Perfectly Normal and Healthy Press? I'll have to have a look at it. Is that as reliable as the censored-for-public-consumption-NBC-News report you mentioned earlier, or maybe ABC News?:

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3884029.htm

I had a look and sure enough, you're right. There IS watered-down, optimistic news coming out of Japan these days:

http://fukushimaupdate.com/koizumi-defends-changing-stance-on-nuclear-power/

With any luck, someday they won't have any reactors to blow up, melt down, and contaminate the rest of the planet. I feel better already!


Blow up? Wow, what a misunderstanding of nuclear power production that is. A nuclear reactor is not a bomb.

By the way, that ABC story doesn't pertain to the west coast of the USA, which is the topic of this thread.


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