Topic: Working Hard,,,
msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 10:35 AM
More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 10/16/13 10:49 AM

More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html


So it's everybody elses problem that some don't succeed?

So we steal the wealth of those who don't really succeed but simply try to live comfortably, exempting the rich, so the unfortunate among us can indebt everyone else?

That's not rising them up, it's bringing everyone else down!

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 10/16/13 10:53 AM


More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html


So it's everybody elses problem that some don't succeed?

So we steal the wealth of those who don't really succeed but simply try to live comfortably, exempting the rich, so the unfortunate among us can indebt everyone else?

That's not rising them up, it's bringing everyone else down!


Liberal logic is an oxymoron

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 10:55 AM


More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html


So it's everybody elses problem that some don't succeed?

So we steal the wealth of those who don't really succeed but simply try to live comfortably, exempting the rich, so the unfortunate among us can indebt everyone else?

That's not rising them up, it's bringing everyone else down!



yes, poverty is EVERYONES problem,,,,

because, in the long run, at the end of a day, as a society, its consequences affect EVERYONE,,,,,

we can invest in making ourselves 'wealthier' but we fight and complain about the investment to make our country better

which it ineveitably becomes when people are uplifted instead of beaten down,,,

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:00 AM


Problem is you've got people who work at McDonalds and have kids which they cannot take care of on fast food wages (fast food by the way is not meant as a career) and instead of looking for something better or creating their own job they continue down the same path then they have another kid which leads to welfare bratting.

People need to be accountable for themselves as I am, you nor anyone else are my responsibility. I already have the government to suck me dry and I don't need some yayhoo in New York livin off my tit either.

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:06 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 10/16/13 11:08 AM



Problem is you've got people who work at McDonalds and have kids which they cannot take care of on fast food wages (fast food by the way is not meant as a career) and instead of looking for something better or creating their own job they continue down the same path then they have another kid which leads to welfare bratting.

People need to be accountable for themselves as I am, you nor anyone else are my responsibility. I already have the government to suck me dry and I don't need some yayhoo in New York livin off my tit either.


how does one with kids 'create their own job', while taking care of the children, supervising the children, feeding, clothing, doing homework with and providing time and resources for the children?

if they barely have resources to do THOSE Things, where will the resources come to pay for licensing and materials , advertisement, and transportation , possibly insurance costs for such business?

its very easy for those without these concerns or obstacles to blindly talk of these things as if they are 'simple' solutions

but they are not,,,

and Id love to see the evidence beyond more hateful rumor mill rhetoric that those on welfare have some 'welfare bratting' trend,, I doubt most who are struggling with the ones they have are eager to have more,,

the poor are no more or less 'accountable' than anyone else, but we all better start being more concerned about others beyond ourselves or one day we might be that one without the opportunity, or resource, or good fortune,,,,,, receiving the karma for our own self righteous selfishness and judgment,,,


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:07 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 10/16/13 11:09 AM



More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html


So it's everybody elses problem that some don't succeed?

So we steal the wealth of those who don't really succeed but simply try to live comfortably, exempting the rich, so the unfortunate among us can indebt everyone else?

That's not rising them up, it's bringing everyone else down!



yes, poverty is EVERYONES problem,,,,

because, in the long run, at the end of a day, as a society, its consequences affect EVERYONE,,,,,

we can invest in making ourselves 'wealthier' but we fight and complain about the investment to make our country better

which it ineveitably becomes when people are uplifted instead of beaten down,,,


So, drive a whole nation to poverty so a few on both ends can feel good about themselves, screwing the middle to make it happen?

That's liberal logic at it's finest!

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:09 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 10/16/13 11:10 AM




More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html


So it's everybody elses problem that some don't succeed?

So we steal the wealth of those who don't really succeed but simply try to live comfortably, exempting the rich, so the unfortunate among us can indebt everyone else?

That's not rising them up, it's bringing everyone else down!



yes, poverty is EVERYONES problem,,,,

because, in the long run, at the end of a day, as a society, its consequences affect EVERYONE,,,,,

we can invest in making ourselves 'wealthier' but we fight and complain about the investment to make our country better

which it ineveitably becomes when people are uplifted instead of beaten down,,,


So, drive a whole nation to poverty so a few can feel good about themselves?

That's liberal logic at it's finest!



trash logic,,,,

and I don't care if its liberal or conservative

so you think wanting to eat and have shelter and provide basics for ones family , or provide your family a future in return for all the 'hard work' that allegedly is the payment to have those basics in this country,,

is simply about 'feeling good about' yourself


amazing!

Toks88's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:11 AM
Poverty is a disease. I'll never be poor in life and in spirit.

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:14 AM

Poverty is a disease. I'll never be poor in life and in spirit.


and that's great for you truly

but poverty, as in the inability to have the RESOURCES to meet ones needs,, is a reality for far too many who are no more gullty of being 'lazy' or undeserving than those who constantly degrade and minimalize their struggles,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:15 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 10/16/13 11:16 AM





More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html


So it's everybody elses problem that some don't succeed?

So we steal the wealth of those who don't really succeed but simply try to live comfortably, exempting the rich, so the unfortunate among us can indebt everyone else?

That's not rising them up, it's bringing everyone else down!



yes, poverty is EVERYONES problem,,,,

because, in the long run, at the end of a day, as a society, its consequences affect EVERYONE,,,,,

we can invest in making ourselves 'wealthier' but we fight and complain about the investment to make our country better

which it ineveitably becomes when people are uplifted instead of beaten down,,,


So, drive a whole nation to poverty so a few can feel good about themselves?

That's liberal logic at it's finest!



trash logic,,,,

and I don't care if its liberal or conservative

so you think wanting to eat and have shelter and provide basics for ones family , or provide your family a future in return for all the 'hard work' that allegedly is the payment to have those basics in this country,,

is simply about 'feeling good about' yourself


amazing!



When you have to steal from others to do so..... theft is theft, no matter how it occurs or under what premiss

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:20 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 10/16/13 11:21 AM






More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html


So it's everybody elses problem that some don't succeed?

So we steal the wealth of those who don't really succeed but simply try to live comfortably, exempting the rich, so the unfortunate among us can indebt everyone else?

That's not rising them up, it's bringing everyone else down!



yes, poverty is EVERYONES problem,,,,

because, in the long run, at the end of a day, as a society, its consequences affect EVERYONE,,,,,

we can invest in making ourselves 'wealthier' but we fight and complain about the investment to make our country better

which it ineveitably becomes when people are uplifted instead of beaten down,,,


So, drive a whole nation to poverty so a few can feel good about themselves?

That's liberal logic at it's finest!



trash logic,,,,

and I don't care if its liberal or conservative

so you think wanting to eat and have shelter and provide basics for ones family , or provide your family a future in return for all the 'hard work' that allegedly is the payment to have those basics in this country,,

is simply about 'feeling good about' yourself


amazing!



When you have to steal from others to do so..... theft is theft, no matter how it occurs



IN sorry, how is it stealing?

do you not pay rent to live in a home? so you pay taxes to live in a country,,,,thats life


and those who don't have enough to contribute a 'tax' to their country are still contributing in other ways,,,,

so how is their contribution any less of a payment towards their rights and status and freedoms and opportunities than the monetary contribution those WITH SOME MONEY can give?

so if IM working and not being paid, can I say Im being enslaved?

taxes maintain certain things that contribute to the quality of the life we want to maintain in this country

if people continue believing poverty isn't a huge DRAIN on the quality of life they pay for

if they insist its not their 'problem' or 'responsibility' to try to keep that quality of life and want to paint it instead as someone 'stealing' from them

,,,I feel for them , and I hope their disregard for the value of human life and dignity doesn't become the type of mainstream philosophy everyone adopts,, or else no amount of taxes or 'hard work' is gonna keep this place from being a morally bankrupt craphole,,,


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:22 AM







More than 46 million Americans live in poverty. Locally, in Couleecap’s four-county service area, almost 29,000 people — including 8,600 children — live at or below the poverty line.

Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security, and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future.

In poverty, the choices you have are different from the choices of those with privilege and access to resources. The crisis of poverty rarely allows you to plan for your future. Most people in poverty do what they have to do to meet basic survival needs and to help those they love who are also in crisis. It is hard to think about having a future when your family is hungry today.

One of the many myths related to poverty is that poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics. This is not true. Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people.


Two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of

1.7 jobs, and 83 percent of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent.

Americans have to move past stereotypes and focus on meeting the basic needs of those living in poverty, while setting them up for success, rather than berating them for not being middle class


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/grace-e-jones-don-t-believe-myths-about-poverty/article_e35298c2-e293-11e2-9fc5-001a4bcf887a.html


So it's everybody elses problem that some don't succeed?

So we steal the wealth of those who don't really succeed but simply try to live comfortably, exempting the rich, so the unfortunate among us can indebt everyone else?

That's not rising them up, it's bringing everyone else down!



yes, poverty is EVERYONES problem,,,,

because, in the long run, at the end of a day, as a society, its consequences affect EVERYONE,,,,,

we can invest in making ourselves 'wealthier' but we fight and complain about the investment to make our country better

which it ineveitably becomes when people are uplifted instead of beaten down,,,


So, drive a whole nation to poverty so a few can feel good about themselves?

That's liberal logic at it's finest!



trash logic,,,,

and I don't care if its liberal or conservative

so you think wanting to eat and have shelter and provide basics for ones family , or provide your family a future in return for all the 'hard work' that allegedly is the payment to have those basics in this country,,

is simply about 'feeling good about' yourself


amazing!



When you have to steal from others to do so..... theft is theft, no matter how it occurs



IN sorry, how is it stealing?

do you not pay rent to live in a home? so you pay taxes to live in a country,,,,thats life


and those who don't have enough to contribute a 'tax' to their country are still contributing in other ways,,,,

so how is their contribution any less of a payment towards their rights and status and freedoms and opportunities than the monetary contribution those WITH SOME MONEY can give?

so if IM working and not being paid, can I say Im being enslaved?

taxes maintain certain things that contribute to the quality of the life we want to maintain in this country

if people continue believing poverty isn't a huge DRAIN on the quality of life they pay for

if they insist its not an investment in keeping that quality of life and want to paint it instead as someone 'stealing' from them

,,,I feel for them , and I hope their disregard for the value of human life and dignity doesn't become the type of mainstream philosophy everyone adopts,, or else no amount of taxes or 'hard work' is gonna keep this place from being a morally bankrupt craphole,,,




Liberal logic! How to destroy a country and its economy without thinking.....

lilott's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:23 AM
You need to tell that Muslim leader of yours to stop bringing the country down.

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:27 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 10/16/13 11:31 AM
as soon as you tell your 'Christian' congress the same,,,laugh laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:31 AM

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 11:33 AM
like 'death panels'
exempted congressmen
doctored photos?


lol, ,yeah, I can see how this particular type of cartoon is posted against both sides all over the internet,,, and therefore, its probably true,,,


according to 'logic',,,lol

mrjallenbrown's photo
Wed 10/16/13 02:34 PM
When has one president had the power to bring a country down,?? These things would be happening no matter who was the president.. Obama is not perfect just like alot of other presidents that has hurt america in some way... But these problems have been in the making for over a decade... No increase in minimum wage, more and more businesses moving overseas.. YOu have factory workers that have been working for over 20years making 15-20 dollars an hour laid off because of the money hungry CEO's and the ease of running a business overseas increasing profits.. Not everyone is having babies working at a mcdonalds... Someone has to be janitors, cooks, housekeepers, valets and other various minimum wage jobs, not everyone can go to college or get high paying jobs, and so what we pay them 7/hr just because,?? and how would doing something about this hurt the middle class and the upper class citizens.? wouldnt it be better on the high tax payer.?? decreasing the number of welfare recipients, decreasing crime, and getting more people to work.. I know plenty of guys and women work their butts off that live in those poor areas, get up early and go to bed late, not all are looking for a hand out and having baby after baby..

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/16/13 02:36 PM

When has one president had the power to bring a country down,?? These things would be happening no matter who was the president.. Obama is not perfect just like alot of other presidents that has hurt america in some way... But these problems have been in the making for over a decade... No increase in minimum wage, more and more businesses moving overseas.. YOu have factory workers that have been working for over 20years making 15-20 dollars an hour laid off because of the money hungry CEO's and the ease of running a business overseas increasing profits.. Not everyone is having babies working at a mcdonalds... Someone has to be janitors, cooks, housekeepers, valets and other various minimum wage jobs, not everyone can go to college or get high paying jobs, and so what we pay them 7/hr just because,?? and how would doing something about this hurt the middle class and the upper class citizens.? wouldnt it be better on the high tax payer.?? decreasing the number of welfare recipients, decreasing crime, and getting more people to work.. I know plenty of guys and women work their butts off that live in those poor areas, get up early and go to bed late, not all are looking for a hand out and having baby after baby..


by George someone GETS IT!!!

flowerforyou

mrjallenbrown's photo
Wed 10/16/13 02:45 PM
All this liberal talk is nonsense, when people leave the names and the finger-pointing alone, we could get to a solution...No single group of people is responsible for this, thats why "WE"(not you or me) vote people in and out.. Yes america has diehard liberals, but thats what makes us a great nation thats why we're so diverse because we have different views and have the ability to voice them... The stupid cartoon photos is the reason we're in this now, we all have the same president, we all live in the U.S. So what if Obama is muslim, christian or scientologist... I care not, and so should america.. If a religion makes you a better person I say go for it, it does not make you any worse or good than anyone... Post solutions, not who's the blame, because you know what?? at the end of the day we all endure the problems of america no matter rich or poor