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Topic: Hate Crime
Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Tue 09/10/13 02:50 PM
Edited by Serchin4MyRedWine on Tue 09/10/13 02:51 PM
CBS) NEW YORK - A 62-year-old man died Monday after being attacked by complete stranger last week in Union Square in New York City, CBS New York reports.

Jeffrey Babbitt slipped into a coma and had been declared brain dead at Bellevue Hospital after he was allegedly beat by 31-year-old Lashawn Marten last week.

Babbitt, a retired train conductor, was reportedly walking in Union Square around 3 p.m. Wednesday when Marten allegedly shouted a racial comment and began attacking people.

"He said 'the next white person who walks by I'm going to [expletive],'" one female witness told CBS New York. "His fist went in and the man's head bobbed and he hit the ground and you could hear his skull hitting the ground."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57602060-504083/jeffrey-babbitt-update-nyc-man-dies-after-random-possibly-racially-motivated-attack/

It's sad when any race attacks another over race, but it's despicable when the media outrage only happens when it's against a black person.

Let's see how long it takes everyone to wear Jeffery Babbitt tee Shirts and march in the streets....not holding my breathgrumble

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/10/13 02:56 PM
give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:04 PM

give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also


Being homeless is a great excuse for being a racist...he was smart enough to play chess, but too stupid to know the difference between right and wrong. You should be his lawyerlaugh

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:05 PM

give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also



Well, there won't be any justice if this crime is not recognized as being the anti-white hate crime that it is.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:05 PM


give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also


Being homeless is a great excuse for being a racist...he was smart enough to play chess, but too stupid to know the difference between right and wrong. You should be his lawyerlaugh


I wouldn't be his lawyer, just adding facts

btw, not every mentally ill person is STUPID or incapable of a game of chess

my brothers were playing chess at the age of 7

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:06 PM


give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also



Well, there won't be any justice if this crime is not recognized as being the anti-white hate crime that it is.


that is, if he is declared sane enough to be held accountable

if he is,, it will be a hate crime,,,

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:22 PM



give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also


Being homeless is a great excuse for being a racist...he was smart enough to play chess, but too stupid to know the difference between right and wrong. You should be his lawyerlaugh


I wouldn't be his lawyer, just adding facts

btw, not every mentally ill person is STUPID or incapable of a game of chess

my brothers were playing chess at the age of 7

There nothing in the investigation saying the suspect is mentally ill. He has a long arrest record of assaults and drugs. The ONLY mention is that he lived in a Jewish boarding home for the homeless and also houses psychiatric tenets.
Not everyone homeless there is mentally challenged or disabled.

Btw..this is second hate crime in a week...but hardly any media attention...here is the other:

According to witness accounts of the apparently unconnected Friday incident, reported by the New York Daily News, a 31-year-old Queens, NY, man was riding the M60 bus around 127th St. between Amsterdam Avenue and Morningside Drive in Harlem.

When the man, whose name has not been made public, walked to the front of the bus to approach the driver, another passenger � an African American man apparently in his mid-to-late 30s � confronted him.

The other passenger called the Queens man a �cracker.�

According to the Daily News account, the first passenger replied, �Why are you in my face?�

The suspect then attacked, pushing the man to the floor of the bus and striking him in the face. The victim suffered a broken nose and possibly fractured eye socket.

The suspect fled. Police released a surveillance photo of a man they say is the suspect, described as about 5-foot-11 and 185 pounds, 35 to 40 years of age. The city�s Hate Crimes Task Force is also investigating.

lilott's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:30 PM
This whole world is out of control.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:30 PM
yeah, every crime hate or otherwise doesn't make then news

except the news that people copy and paste it from,,,lol




but those people involved are prosecuted

as this person will be as well


whenever all the details are in,, he will be held accountable


Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:35 PM



give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also



Well, there won't be any justice if this crime is not recognized as being the anti-white hate crime that it is.


that is, if he is declared sane enough to be held accountable

if he is,, it will be a hate crime,,,

One, if he had a history of mental illness, they wouldn't have given him a million dollar bail.
Two, if there was history of mental illness, they'd take him to Bellevue for a psychological evaluation before putting him in general population.

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:37 PM

yeah, every crime hate or otherwise doesn't make then news

except the news that people copy and paste it from,,,lol




but those people involved are prosecuted

as this person will be as well


whenever all the details are in,, he will be held accountable


Yes your right, it only makes the news when a thug jumps a white guy with a gun and there's no evidence to convict the white guy.whoa

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:41 PM
Get your Jeffery Babbitt tee shirts now...there selling out fast!laugh

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 09/10/13 03:59 PM



give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also



Well, there won't be any justice if this crime is not recognized as being the anti-white hate crime that it is.


that is, if he is declared sane enough to be held accountable

if he is,, it will be a hate crime,,,


huh Isn't that the other way around? The last time that I check, insanity has to be proven.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/10/13 04:03 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 09/10/13 04:06 PM


yeah, every crime hate or otherwise doesn't make then news

except the news that people copy and paste it from,,,lol




but those people involved are prosecuted

as this person will be as well


whenever all the details are in,, he will be held accountable


Yes your right, it only makes the news when a thug jumps a white guy with a gun and there's no evidence to convict the white guy.whoa

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or if an armed adult pursues an unarmed teen in a vehicle, and later on foot, after being SPECIFICALLY ADVISED NOT TO

and then , after someone on the phone hears him confront said unarmed teen and a witness sees him tussling with unarmed teen,,

unarmed teen is shot dead and said adult is allowed to WALK AWAY,,,

,,,,,

many believe the adult should be held accountable for the death of a teen,,

took protests to see it happened

most believe this man will be held accountable for the death of this man

I doubt it will take protesting to see it happen

,, I don't see the issue or the gripe,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/10/13 04:05 PM




give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also



Well, there won't be any justice if this crime is not recognized as being the anti-white hate crime that it is.


that is, if he is declared sane enough to be held accountable

if he is,, it will be a hate crime,,,


huh Isn't that the other way around? The last time that I check, insanity has to be proven.



I didn't state any order,,simply saying he may or may not be found guilty of a hate crime, depending upon his mental capacity

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 09/10/13 05:26 PM





give it a rest


'outrage' comes in when people believe there will be no justice

this assailant was living in a homeless shelter for the mentally ill
, yet I doubt he will not be fully persecuted and accountable for the death of the innocent man also



Well, there won't be any justice if this crime is not recognized as being the anti-white hate crime that it is.


that is, if he is declared sane enough to be held accountable

if he is,, it will be a hate crime,,,


huh Isn't that the other way around? The last time that I check, insanity has to be proven.



I didn't state any order,,simply saying he may or may not be found guilty of a hate crime, depending upon his mental capacity


There is a difference between being guilty of a hate crime and being legally accountable for a hate crime. An insane person can be guilty of a hate crime but not legally accountable for it because of the person's insanity.

The OP of this thread pertains to an obvious case of an anti-white hate crime regardless of the mental condition of the perpetrator.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/10/13 05:29 PM
so, a person can be guilty even if they are found

'not guilty'

or

'not guilty by reason of insanity'...

,,,how novel an idea THAT is


,,obviously, there is a racial element that COULD make it a hate crime,,

the justice system, I HAVE NO DOUBT, will sort it out and hold someone accountable in some way for the mans death

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 09/10/13 05:35 PM

so, a person can be guilty even if they are found

'not guilty'

or

'not guilty by reason of insanity'...

,,,how novel an idea THAT is


,,obviously, there is a racial element that COULD make it a hate crime,,

the justice system, I HAVE NO DOUBT, will sort it out and hold someone accountable in some way for the mans death


If the perpetrator attacked the victim because the victim was white, then the crime is a hate crime.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/10/13 05:41 PM
Congress has defined a hate crime as a �criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender�s bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.�

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 09/10/13 05:43 PM

Congress has defined a hate crime as a �criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender�s bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.�


That definition fits what I said.
If the perpetrator attacked the victim because the victim was white, then the crime is a hate crime.

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