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Breaking news...The Brits have just pulled out of supporting the US in any military strikes on Syria.
This is just the latest show of how our allies see us. Earlier today Merkel of Germany agreed with Putin that military force should not be used(the first time Germany sided with Russia instead of U.S.) I'm not a young man and have seen many Presidents both Democratic and Republican engage in all kinds of military actions around the world but have never seen ALL our allies fail to back us regardless of the situation. Obama has lost all credibility and respect from our allies that we USE to work with and protect. Britain, France, Germany and the UAE all past strong supporters of us have all said no! This "leading from behind" has been a complete failure and our relations with Russia have never been worse since Obama's "RESET" with Russia. Russia has walked all over Obama, Al-Qaeda is spreading in North Africa, Asia and the middle east faster then a California wild fire. As Obama has hid in his Ideological closet, the bullies of the world have come out to play and see us as weak, and with no clear foreign policy or strategy. It doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree with the use of force against Syria, it is the unbelievable ineptness of this whole administration from Fast n Furious, IRS, Bengazi, NSA to the weakness and lack of understanding foreign policy. I just hope we can survive another two years of this! |
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Yep and the Democrats are running from the Syria issue. Tonite, there was also news that he is about to take unconstitutional action in several areas such as gun control without congressional approval.
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Thu 08/29/13 07:54 PM
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Amen brother!
![]() Time to flush that toilet in DC! Time for term limits, loss of benefits, and no more carreer politicians! Why should the people be the 1st and only ones to suffer when they are the cause? |
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Yep and the Democrats are running from the Syria issue. Tonite, there was also news that he is about to take unconstitutional action in several areas such as gun control without congressional approval. LOL..that's nothing new...he thinks he is a dictator and has circumvented the laws in almost every aspect of our constitution from his own immigration policies to changing Obamacare as he sees fit.ONLY congress can make and change laws. It's unconstitutional for the Executive branch to change anything. They are suppose to uphold and enforce the laws of our country. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Thu 08/29/13 07:59 PM
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The lunatics are running the asylum!
Obozo is nothing more than a manchurian candidate for Soros! ![]() |
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The lunatics are running the asylum! Obozo is nothing more than a manchurian candidate for Soros! well put ![]() Now the Egyptians are threatening to close the canal so US war ships can't pass. We have always had a position of strength in the world where little two bit thug types would never challenge us. Now everyone knows we are impotent and a laughing joke. ![]() |
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! |
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! Yes but sometimes it's better to bomb to keep the peace rather then have no peace at all. ![]() |
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! Yes but sometimes it's better to bomb to keep the peace rather then have no peace at all. ![]() Peace thru superior firepower is never having to threaten, or use it |
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! Yes but sometimes it's better to bomb to keep the peace rather then have no peace at all. ![]() Peace thru superior firepower is never having to threaten, or use it No, sometimes you have to use it to show the bullies you mean it and to show others the extent of that strength. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Thu 08/29/13 08:44 PM
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! Yes but sometimes it's better to bomb to keep the peace rather then have no peace at all. ![]() Peace thru superior firepower is never having to threaten, or use it No, sometimes you have to use it to show the bullies you mean it and to show others the extent of that strength. I have to disagree. A man doesn't strike another man to show he has the balls to do so, it is always best to let someone assume your strength or weaknesses. Our ability is known. What is also known is that if we act against Syria as we did in Iraq, it won't be only Muslim extremists who we will have to worry about in the future! We may end up closing our bases overseas as Ron Paul has always suggested, and bringing our troops home, but it might not be because it was a wise thing to do financially, it will be because we get thrown out! When a bully loses the power to intimidate, they may become a laughing stock, but it does not mean they aren't capable of doing a lot of damage. |
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! Yes but sometimes it's better to bomb to keep the peace rather then have no peace at all. ![]() Peace thru superior firepower is never having to threaten, or use it No, sometimes you have to use it to show the bullies you mean it and to show others the extent of that strength. I have to disagree. A man doesn't strike another man to show he has the balls to do so, it is always best to let someone assume your strength or weaknesses. Our ability is known. What is also known is that if we act against Syria as we did in Iraq, it won't be only Muslim extremists who we will have to worry about in the future! We may end up closing our bases overseas as Ron Paul has always suggested, and bringing our troops home, but it might not be because it was a wise thing to to financially, it will be because we get thrown out! When a bully loses the power to intimidate, they may become a laughing stock, but it does not mean they aren't capable of doing a lot of damage. The bullies are trying to intimidate us now, because we have no credibility. In your example of a man punching another,If a man walks into your daughters house and wants to rape her, I guess you would just stand by and watch. As for Syria, it's way too late to get involved, Obama had a chance to back the REAL freedom fighters two years ago when they asked for help(not to bomb..just weapons). Now all The SYRIAN freedom fighters have fled to Jordan and the rest of the "rebels" are assorted terrorist groups from Iraq, North Africa and supported by the Muslim Brotherhood controlled Turkish govt. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Thu 08/29/13 09:17 PM
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! Yes but sometimes it's better to bomb to keep the peace rather then have no peace at all. ![]() Peace thru superior firepower is never having to threaten, or use it No, sometimes you have to use it to show the bullies you mean it and to show others the extent of that strength. I have to disagree. A man doesn't strike another man to show he has the balls to do so, it is always best to let someone assume your strength or weaknesses. Our ability is known. What is also known is that if we act against Syria as we did in Iraq, it won't be only Muslim extremists who we will have to worry about in the future! We may end up closing our bases overseas as Ron Paul has always suggested, and bringing our troops home, but it might not be because it was a wise thing to to financially, it will be because we get thrown out! When a bully loses the power to intimidate, they may become a laughing stock, but it does not mean they aren't capable of doing a lot of damage. The bullies are trying to intimidate us now, because we have no credibility. In your example of a man punching another,If a man walks into your daughters house and wants to rape her, I guess you would just stand by and watch. As for Syria, it's way too late to get involved, Obama had a chance to back the REAL freedom fighters two years ago when they asked for help(not to bomb..just weapons). Now all The SYRIAN freedom fighters have fled to Jordan and the rest of the "rebels" are assorted terrorist groups from Iraq, North Africa and supported by the Muslim Brotherhood controlled Turkish govt. Dude, you're going out of context. Of course a man would kill any man who attempted or harmed his daughter given the opportunity. But, Syria has NOT attacked the US, it is a civil war, well, it started as one until Al Queada's Al Nusra Front came in and took it over, and we have no business putting our noses into it! That is why we have a UN supposedly, but Kerry has stock in Raytheon as well as many in congress, and they stand to make millions just as they did in Iraq, Libya and the big poppy field! |
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! Yes but sometimes it's better to bomb to keep the peace rather then have no peace at all. ![]() Peace thru superior firepower is never having to threaten, or use it No, sometimes you have to use it to show the bullies you mean it and to show others the extent of that strength. I have to disagree. A man doesn't strike another man to show he has the balls to do so, it is always best to let someone assume your strength or weaknesses. Our ability is known. What is also known is that if we act against Syria as we did in Iraq, it won't be only Muslim extremists who we will have to worry about in the future! We may end up closing our bases overseas as Ron Paul has always suggested, and bringing our troops home, but it might not be because it was a wise thing to to financially, it will be because we get thrown out! When a bully loses the power to intimidate, they may become a laughing stock, but it does not mean they aren't capable of doing a lot of damage. The bullies are trying to intimidate us now, because we have no credibility. In your example of a man punching another,If a man walks into your daughters house and wants to rape her, I guess you would just stand by and watch. As for Syria, it's way too late to get involved, Obama had a chance to back the REAL freedom fighters two years ago when they asked for help(not to bomb..just weapons). Now all The SYRIAN freedom fighters have fled to Jordan and the rest of the "rebels" are assorted terrorist groups from Iraq, North Africa and supported by the Muslim Brotherhood controlled Turkish govt. Dude, you're going out of context. Of course a man would kill any man who attempted or harmed his daughter given the opportunity. But, Syria has NOT attacked the US, it is a civil war, well, it started as one until Al Queada's Al Nusra Front came in and took it over, and we have no business putting our noses into it! That is why we have a UN supposedly, but Kerry has stock in Raytheon as well as many in congress, and they stand to make millions just as they did in Iraq and the big poppy field! No DUDE, I'm not taking it out of context. For an analogy I'll use WW2, A Man (say he is Germany)tries to rape a helpless woman(Poland) then we help get rid of the "attacker" so she is free. There is always a "good" use of force when absolutely necessary. |
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but i thought bush was the war monger?...
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Rumor has it, if oBamby is impeached the Dumbocraps will riot and kill white people. Oh, and Latinos.
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 08/30/13 07:10 AM
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We might be able to bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb our way to peace! Yes but sometimes it's better to bomb to keep the peace rather then have no peace at all. ![]() Peace thru superior firepower is never having to threaten, or use it No, sometimes you have to use it to show the bullies you mean it and to show others the extent of that strength. I have to disagree. A man doesn't strike another man to show he has the balls to do so, it is always best to let someone assume your strength or weaknesses. Our ability is known. What is also known is that if we act against Syria as we did in Iraq, it won't be only Muslim extremists who we will have to worry about in the future! We may end up closing our bases overseas as Ron Paul has always suggested, and bringing our troops home, but it might not be because it was a wise thing to to financially, it will be because we get thrown out! When a bully loses the power to intimidate, they may become a laughing stock, but it does not mean they aren't capable of doing a lot of damage. The bullies are trying to intimidate us now, because we have no credibility. In your example of a man punching another,If a man walks into your daughters house and wants to rape her, I guess you would just stand by and watch. As for Syria, it's way too late to get involved, Obama had a chance to back the REAL freedom fighters two years ago when they asked for help(not to bomb..just weapons). Now all The SYRIAN freedom fighters have fled to Jordan and the rest of the "rebels" are assorted terrorist groups from Iraq, North Africa and supported by the Muslim Brotherhood controlled Turkish govt. Dude, you're going out of context. Of course a man would kill any man who attempted or harmed his daughter given the opportunity. But, Syria has NOT attacked the US, it is a civil war, well, it started as one until Al Queada's Al Nusra Front came in and took it over, and we have no business putting our noses into it! That is why we have a UN supposedly, but Kerry has stock in Raytheon as well as many in congress, and they stand to make millions just as they did in Iraq and the big poppy field! No DUDE, I'm not taking it out of context. For an analogy I'll use WW2, A Man (say he is Germany)tries to rape a helpless woman(Poland) then we help get rid of the "attacker" so she is free. There is always a "good" use of force when absolutely necessary. Don't get me wrong. I am a war veteran, Vietnam. I have seen the atrocities that occur in war, and unless someone has, the picture is not so easy to paint for them. It would be impossible even with pictures to convey holding a friends guts inside of him until medics can arrive, or collecting bodies and parts after a napalm strike. Our Constitution says "National Defense" not Global Aggression! You used Germany as your descriptor. Why? Because the US has never been challenged or threatened with invasion. 9/11 was a cowardly and evil act, some 3000 souls perished, and there should have been retaliation, or arrests and trials, but we were not given anything so simple as that. Instead we were lied into destabilizing or destroying 2 countries, creating millions of homeless and exploited victims, killing a million Iraqis, not to mention the cost to our own country and troops for such aggression. So who really is the bigger offender? Which rapist as you point out, is more guilty? Ours or theirs? Because you carry a tool, do you use it to create or destroy? That is the human element, imperfect and swayed by emotion. The media plays on that emotion for effect, to the benefit of those who support it! It has long ago lost its value of seeking truth to power and instead has become nothing but a machine for propaganda to promote an agenda for whoever is willing to pay the most. We have been funding and arming our enemy from one country, to destroy our enemy in another. And this seems sane to you? It is the war mentality. Victory at any cost. It has worked so well in Iraq that we have now turned it into an Al Queda breeding ground where it was not before, and those terrorists, the Al Nusra Front, are now trying to remove Assad to take over Syria as well! So which bad guy do we like the best, and how much have we accomplished in actual democracy or peace to either of these nations? What of the innocent civilians? Does killing or victimizing a few million more help in some way? So I still disagree with your assessment of this! |
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Breaking news...The Brits have just pulled out of supporting the US in any military strikes on Syria. This is just the latest show of how our allies see us. Earlier today Merkel of Germany agreed with Putin that military force should not be used(the first time Germany sided with Russia instead of U.S.) I'm not a young man and have seen many Presidents both Democratic and Republican engage in all kinds of military actions around the world but have never seen ALL our allies fail to back us regardless of the situation. Obama has lost all credibility and respect from our allies that we USE to work with and protect. Britain, France, Germany and the UAE all past strong supporters of us have all said no! This "leading from behind" has been a complete failure and our relations with Russia have never been worse since Obama's "RESET" with Russia. Russia has walked all over Obama, Al-Qaeda is spreading in North Africa, Asia and the middle east faster then a California wild fire. As Obama has hid in his Ideological closet, the bullies of the world have come out to play and see us as weak, and with no clear foreign policy or strategy. It doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree with the use of force against Syria, it is the unbelievable ineptness of this whole administration from Fast n Furious, IRS, Bengazi, NSA to the weakness and lack of understanding foreign policy. I just hope we can survive another two years of this! Once again Obama makes foreign policy history…One of our closest allies stands up and gives him the finger while, at the same time, Russia and China dine together on a meal of caviar and champaign…Now we have Obama scrambling to muster up support for the strike in his own country!! …Strong substantial evidence is not enough, US needs to wait until UN inspectors report their findings on alleged chemical warfare….Assad has made it clear that he is preparing for the threat of airstrikes by dispersing enough assets to ensure a need for US to "BROADEN" its original plan…That means the probability for collateral damage escalates!…That is not acceptable, especially in view of the fact that alleged chemical attacks have not been confirmed and won't be until the UN presents its clinical findings…Last year, when Obama "issued" his warning to Syria about how the use of chemical warfare would be "crossing a US red line" , he did so without stating what his response would be because he did not have a plan!…It was just one more example of "lip service" from a president who is clueless… Three things need to happen before US does anything…. The use of chemical warfare in Syria must be indisputable… US must have majority international support ( in spite of what Obama says)… And most importantly, Obama must have Congressional approval… If US moves without these three things in place, Obama should be impeached... |
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but i thought bush was the war monger?... ![]() |
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but i thought bush was the war monger?... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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