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I'm a born again Christian. There's still some
things I'm not quite sure of. In the Bible it mentions fornication, which to my knowledge is sexual intercourse itself. What about oral or mutual masturbation between an unmarried or dating couple? Is that permitted? |
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Ok. Maybe I should have put "just born".
I believed before, but there was actually a lot I didn't know about religion beforehand. I had been going to the Salvation Army church for close to a year, stopped for a short time and am now back there on Sunday Mornings. I'm a little shocked no one with someone with religious knowledge hasn't replied. If someone can help, it would be much appreciated. I am single right now. Although I'd like to get some information should I meet a lady in the future. |
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Edited by
savel921
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hi....I too am born again! As a woman that's divorced with two children I struggled with the idea of no sex before marriage! I don't see marriage in my near future so no sex... wow that was a hard one for me to understand too for it seems in the Bible it says no self abuse... meaning you can't touch yourself either! To quote you verses and where exactly it says it in the Bible my tool is to ask the question in Google and instantly it comes up and I can read it word for word as written in the Bible! Many people will go ahead and ttranslate it to what they want to hear.. it's pretty clear what it's stating! I found a Preacher on Utube that hits this on the head....Jefferson Bethke. Best of luck and word of advice in your search for dating someone date someone of the same yolk!
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hi....I too am born again! As a woman that's divorced with two children I struggled with the idea of no sex before marriage! I don't see marriage in my near future so no sex... wow that was a hard one for me to understand too for it seems in the Bible it says no self abuse... meaning you can't touch yourself either! To quote you verses and where exactly it says it in the Bible my tool is to ask the question in Google and instantly it comes up and I can read it word for word as written in the Bible! Many people will go ahead and ttranslate it to what they want to hear.. it's pretty clear what it's stating! I found a Preacher on Utube that hits this on the head....Jefferson Bethke. Best of luck and word of advice in your search for dating someone date someone of the same yolk! I read that part in the Bible about self abuse. Difficult when society is saying that masturbation is normal and healthy. And on the other flip of the coin, the Gospel is saying it's a sin and self harmful. I have no children, but I struggled with it too not too far in the distant past. I'll now have to grab my privates with a pair of tongs. 
I wasn't touching myself! It was the tongs!!
And thanks for mentioning Jefferson Bethke to me. I'll have to look him up, when I check out YT. 
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Any genuinely born again christian knows that msturbation,lesbianism or torching your self sexually is damning sin.the reprobate and sons and daughters of perdition could believe whatsoever they want to believe and hear whatsoever they want to hear from their funky and backsliden pastors,mostly from the morally bankrupt western countries.but the foundation of God stands sure,let everyone that nameth the name of the Lord depart from iniquity;including filthy and uncleaness of the flesh and mind
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Any genuinely born again christian knows that msturbation,lesbianism or torching your self sexually is damning sin.the reprobate and sons and daughters of perdition could believe whatsoever they want to believe and hear whatsoever they want to hear from their funky and backsliden pastors,mostly from the morally bankrupt western countries.but the foundation of God stands sure,let everyone that nameth the name of the Lord depart from iniquity;including filthy and uncleaness of the flesh and mind CLASSIC TRUTH! It is always bitter. GOD BLESS YOU FOR SAYING THE TRUTH! |
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Well, here I am, weighing in on masturbation!
From a practical standpoint, it can really disrupt one's sex life. People are just too, how should I say, ON TARGET when touching themselves. So how can one expect a live, flesh-and-blood partner, NOT merely a fantasy in one's head, to be as accurate when touching their partner?  And don't even get me started on vibrator-bashing! The clitoris is just too sensitive, and the vibrator too efficient and addictive, to give a woman's male partner even a snowball's chance in hell of pleasing her! Now bring on the hate-mail, ladies, now that I'm threatening your relationship with "Victor".
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Well, here I am, weighing in on masturbation!
From a practical standpoint, it can really disrupt one's sex life. People are just too, how should I say, ON TARGET when touching themselves. So how can one expect a live, flesh-and-blood partner, NOT merely a fantasy in one's head, to be as accurate when touching their partner? And don't even get me started on vibrator-bashing! The clitoris is just too sensitive, and the vibrator too efficient and addictive, to give a woman's male partner even a snowball's chance in hell of pleasing her! Now bring on the hate-mail, ladies, now that I'm threatening your relationship with "Victor".
[/qu I'm a born again Christian, GV. I'm sure it's a hinderance to a sex life, if you have one. True Christians aren't supposed to get laid until marriage. So here's the toughie. Can't w@ck off if you're single. You have a relationship with a girl or woman, you're not supposed to fornicate, which to my knowledge, means to have sexual intercourse. I just wasn't sure if a couple are permitted to pleasure one another in any other way that's acceptable. Seems the only way to be saved and be sexually satisfied is have a wife. Easy? No, hard! Damn hard! And I ain't talking about my lower regions! Oh yeah, it can
get hard, but a true Christian man or woman isn't supposed to do a darn thing about it. |
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To me, and other Christians who share the same
belief, the above is a small price to pay to not go to the underworld when our physical body dies. 80 or more years of mortal life is nothing compared to our souls, which are eternal. We're given free will, and can either choose the path of sin or redemption from the sins we have committed. Only two ways to go....up or down. |
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Well, here I am, weighing in on masturbation!
From a practical standpoint, it can really disrupt one's sex life. People are just too, how should I say, ON TARGET when touching themselves. So how can one expect a live, flesh-and-blood partner, NOT merely a fantasy in one's head, to be as accurate when touching their partner? And don't even get me started on vibrator-bashing! The clitoris is just too sensitive, and the vibrator too efficient and addictive, to give a woman's male partner even a snowball's chance in hell of pleasing her! Now bring on the hate-mail, ladies, now that I'm threatening your relationship with "Victor".
[/qu I'm a born again Christian, GV. I'm sure it's a hinderance to a sex life, if you have one. True Christians aren't supposed to get laid until marriage. So here's the toughie. Can't w@ck off if you're single. You have a relationship with a girl or woman, you're not supposed to fornicate, which to my knowledge, means to have sexual intercourse. I just wasn't sure if a couple are permitted to pleasure one another in any other way that's acceptable. Seems the only way to be saved and be sexually satisfied is have a wife. Easy? No, hard! Damn hard! And I ain't talking about my lower regions! Oh yeah, it can
get hard, but a true Christian man or woman isn't supposed to do a darn thing about it. I'm just about done w/ sex with a partner, anyway. "Haven't had it since it had me"! When I have yanked my crank recently, I held my palm in the reverse posiyion so it woild feel like somenody else was doing it Sex is too readily used by a woman as noth a tool and a weapon. I feel I have to be on guard all the time! No fun at all. |
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Well, here I am, weighing in on masturbation!
From a practical standpoint, it can really disrupt one's sex life. People are just too, how should I say, ON TARGET when touching themselves. So how can one expect a live, flesh-and-blood partner, NOT merely a fantasy in one's head, to be as accurate when touching their partner? And don't even get me started on vibrator-bashing! The clitoris is just too sensitive, and the vibrator too efficient and addictive, to give a woman's male partner even a snowball's chance in hell of pleasing her! Now bring on the hate-mail, ladies, now that I'm threatening your relationship with "Victor".
[/qu I'm a born again Christian, GV. I'm sure it's a hinderance to a sex life, if you have one. True Christians aren't supposed to get laid until marriage. So here's the toughie. Can't w@ck off if you're single. You have a relationship with a girl or woman, you're not supposed to fornicate, which to my knowledge, means to have sexual intercourse. I just wasn't sure if a couple are permitted to pleasure one another in any other way that's acceptable. Seems the only way to be saved and be sexually satisfied is have a wife. Easy? No, hard! Damn hard! And I ain't talking about my lower regions! Oh yeah, it can
get hard, but a true Christian man or woman isn't supposed to do a darn thing about it. I'm just about done w/ sex with a partner, anyway. "Haven't had it since it had me"! When I have yanked my crank recently, I held my palm in the reverse position so it woild feel like somenody else was doing it Sex is too readily used by a woman as noth a tool and a weapon. I feel I have to be on guard all the time! No fun at all. |
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Well, here I am, weighing in on masturbation!
From a practical standpoint, it can really disrupt one's sex life. People are just too, how should I say, ON TARGET when touching themselves. So how can one expect a live, flesh-and-blood partner, NOT merely a fantasy in one's head, to be as accurate when touching their partner? And don't even get me started on vibrator-bashing! The clitoris is just too sensitive, and the vibrator too efficient and addictive, to give a woman's male partner even a snowball's chance in hell of pleasing her! Now bring on the hate-mail, ladies, now that I'm threatening your relationship with "Victor".
[/qu I'm a born again Christian, GV. I'm sure it's a hinderance to a sex life, if you have one. True Christians aren't supposed to get laid until marriage. So here's the toughie. Can't w@ck off if you're single. You have a relationship with a girl or woman, you're not supposed to fornicate, which to my knowledge, means to have sexual intercourse. I just wasn't sure if a couple are permitted to pleasure one another in any other way that's acceptable. Seems the only way to be saved and be sexually satisfied is have a wife. Easy? No, hard! Damn hard! And I ain't talking about my lower regions! Oh yeah, it can
get hard, but a true Christian man or woman isn't supposed to do a darn thing about it. I'm just about done w/ sex with a partner, anyway. "Haven't had it since it had me"! When I have yanked my crank recently, I held my palm in the reverse position so it woild feel like somenody else was doing it Sex is too readily used by a woman as noth a tool and a weapon. I feel I have to be on guard all the time! No fun at all.
That's the thing, GV, It's waiting for the right woman. To be on the prowl for sex isn't really the right way to go, if you're Christian that is. Yeah, some women can use their bodies as tools and weapons. Women like this will just use men for their money. |
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JESUS saved us all from all sin! If you believe that from the true Gospel, or are you still stuck in the LAW??
So JESUS saved us from Past, Present and Future sins; the ones' we remember, and the ones' we don't! To say we don't sin, or sin anymore....IS A DAMNED LIAR! Self-righteous, or Lordship Salvationists that judge other Christians on sin, and forget that they are still sinners themselves are NOT truly Born-Again! They are Pharisees of our time! It's very easy to be truly Born Again: Romans 3:23 Romans 10: 9,10 Galatians 2:20 Read these, and you are saved for eternity! That simple! Also watch: jacksmack77 on YouTube! |
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JESUS saved us all from all sin! If you believe that from the true Gospel, or are you still stuck in the LAW?? So JESUS saved us from Past, Present and Future sins; the ones' we remember, and the ones' we don't! To say we don't sin, or sin anymore....IS A DAMNED LIAR! Self-righteous, or Lordship Salvationists that judge other Christians on sin, and forget that they are still sinners themselves are NOT truly Born-Again! They are Pharisees of our time! It's very easy to be truly Born Again: Romans 3:23 Romans 10: 9,10 Galatians 2:20 Read these, and you are saved for eternity! That simple! Also watch: jacksmack77 on YouTube! I'm not on here to pretend I'm some saint. Of course I know I'm imperfect and sin. Having remorse and then praying for those sins, are the most important thing. IMO, a real Christian shouldn't gossip or judge others on sin, as we're only judging ourselves.As I've said before that God is our judge. We don't have that right to slander and condemn others personally. Thanks for the verses and the link to Jacksmack77 on Ytube. The Vigilant Christian is also a very informative channel. If you'd never heard of him, I'd highly suggest you check him out. |
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I wasn't judging you personally, and I'm sorry if it seemed that way....
But I have seen a lot of Christians today judging so many others on sin, and it drives me mad! I was speaking on them, not you. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding....I am deeply sorry for that. I will check out the Vigilant Christian. |
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I wasn't judging you personally, and I'm sorry if it seemed that way.... But I have seen a lot of Christians today judging so many others on sin, and it drives me mad! I was speaking on them, not you. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding....I am deeply sorry for that. I will check out the Vigilant Christian. It's ok, Farandbetween! No offense taken.
You wonder what's up with people who are supposed to be following God's word, and end up being "half baked"? I've only been reading and studying the Bible for a short time. I went to the church, but never took Bible study. Only been to church for maybe close to a year now. I did learn somethings, learned that being a hypocrite, a gossiper and just being mean spirited is sinful. Some things I didn't know about the Bible, I ended up learning not too long ago. The Vigilant Christian has some great vids. I'd highly recommend watching his stuff.
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If you think of Christianity as a lifestyle rather than a religion, everything makes much more sense. Its not enough to say you are a Christian if you believe in God and Jesus, you actually have to incorporate that into your daily life. The bible tells you how to live to be a true Christian. In the end, thats all that matters.
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Tue 09/03/13 06:08 AM
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If you think of Christianity as a lifestyle rather than a religion, everything makes much more sense. Its not enough to say you are a Christian if you believe in God and Jesus, you actually have to incorporate that into your daily life. The bible tells you how to live to be a true Christian. In the end, thats all that matters. Amen! and those who love God, do not find his ways grievous. People who love God want to live to Please God. |
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Edited by
anita087
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Tue 09/03/13 10:13 AM
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I think masturbation is a sin, for both men and women. If ur going to knowingly and purousefully sin, then God won't fogive you. If you already have someone in your life, then get married if you guys are in love.
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If you think of Christianity as a lifestyle rather than a religion, everything makes much more sense. Its not enough to say you are a Christian if you believe in God and Jesus, you actually have to incorporate that into your daily life. The bible tells you how to live to be a true Christian. In the end, thats all that matters. You're very right, Anita! Precisely! The Bible is the word of God. We, as Christians have to incorporate it into our daily lives. It isn't enough to just go to church. You have to walk the walk, as my Dad always says. 
As mortal, flesh and blood humans, we aren't perfect. However, from Jesus sacrificing himself on the cross for our sins, doing it so that everyone horrific place called hell when we finally depart our physical bodies. We also have to keep in mind that as a true Christian, we really don't have the right to be hypocrites or judge anyone. It specifically states in the Bible how God is our judge. You, I and the rest of our brother's and Sister's on this planet do not have that right. It states in the Bible clearly that" all non-believers will have their part in the lake of fire" Now, it doesn't take a genius to figure out where the lake of fire is. We can only get through to so many, however. There are just too many close minded people out there. |
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