Topic: Don't be gay in Russia...
mightymoe's photo
Thu 08/08/13 01:28 PM
By RAF CASERT (AP Sports Writer) | The Associated Press – 3 hours ago

MOSCOW (AP) -- Urging critics of Russia's new anti-gay law to ''calm down,'' the country's sports minister said Thursday that the rights of all athletes competing at next year's Winter Olympics in Sochi will be respected.

Sports Minister Vitaly Mutko did insist that athletes would ''have to respect the laws of the country'' during the Feb. 7-23 games in the Black Sea resort in southern Russia.

The law, signed by President Vladimir Putin in June, bans ''propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations'' and imposes fines on those holding gay pride rallies.

Mutko said ''the athletes can come and compete'' and the chase for medals should be their primary concern.

''This is a sports forum,'' he said. ''This is a sports festival and we have to talk only about it.''

Mutko raised concern last week among gay rights advocates with comments that the law would be enforced during the Sochi Games.

On Thursday, he insisted that, beyond the law, Russia has ''a constitution that guarantees to all citizens rights for the private life and privacy.''

''Rest assured that all the athletes and all the sports organizations should be relaxed,'' he said.

Mutko said the issue had been blown out of proportion by a groundswell of protest and unease outside Russia.

''I want to ask you to calm down,'' he said.

Mutko spoke at a news conference two days before the opening of the track and field world championships in Moscow.

The International Association of Athletics Federations has urged Russia to reconsider its views on gay rights, but the head of track and field's ruling body said Thursday the federation did not want to raise political issues about the law.

''I don't have the feeling there is a problem whatsoever,'' IAAF President Lamine Diack said. ''There is a law that exists. The law has to be respected. Some things have to be respected. We are here for the world championships.''

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/08/13 01:31 PM
my understanding is its not a law prohibiting 'being gay'

any more than laws here against distributing SEXUAL Materials in public is the same as not allowing people to be sexual

its just a law regarding PROMOTION of certain behaviors,, not a law against engaging in them

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/08/13 01:33 PM
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mightymoe's photo
Thu 08/08/13 01:34 PM

my understanding is its not a law prohibiting 'being gay'

any more than laws here against distributing SEXUAL Materials in public is the same as not allowing people to be sexual

its just a law regarding PROMOTION of certain behaviors,, not a law against engaging in them


not allowed to show affections in public, nor demonstrate against it...

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/08/13 01:36 PM


my understanding is its not a law prohibiting 'being gay'

any more than laws here against distributing SEXUAL Materials in public is the same as not allowing people to be sexual

its just a law regarding PROMOTION of certain behaviors,, not a law against engaging in them


not allowed to show affections in public, nor demonstrate against it...



that's not whats posted here, whats posted here is a law against 'propoganda'

Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of the community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument

mightymoe's photo
Thu 08/08/13 01:42 PM



my understanding is its not a law prohibiting 'being gay'

any more than laws here against distributing SEXUAL Materials in public is the same as not allowing people to be sexual

its just a law regarding PROMOTION of certain behaviors,, not a law against engaging in them


not allowed to show affections in public, nor demonstrate against it...



that's not whats posted here, whats posted here is a law against 'propoganda'

Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of the community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument
"propaganda" is a vague term... holding hands can be propaganda... anything that is viewed as promoting gaydom is against the law... broad spectrum there... either way, great law... we're to pussified to get good laws like that here...grumble

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/08/13 01:46 PM




my understanding is its not a law prohibiting 'being gay'

any more than laws here against distributing SEXUAL Materials in public is the same as not allowing people to be sexual

its just a law regarding PROMOTION of certain behaviors,, not a law against engaging in them


not allowed to show affections in public, nor demonstrate against it...



that's not whats posted here, whats posted here is a law against 'propoganda'

Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of the community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument
"propaganda" is a vague term... holding hands can be propaganda... anything that is viewed as promoting gaydom is against the law... broad spectrum there... either way, great law... we're to pussified to get good laws like that here...grumble


well, Russia and many countries don't quite carry the 'freedoms' to such absolutes,,,


some things and expressions are not to be shared in public,,,,

many countries do the same with racist speech,,,,,which is prosecutable,,,and not protected as a 'freedom of speech' element

or gun ownership, where there is no 'freedom to bear arms' ,,,etc,,,


different cultures agree to different boundaries I guess

mightymoe's photo
Thu 08/08/13 03:21 PM





my understanding is its not a law prohibiting 'being gay'

any more than laws here against distributing SEXUAL Materials in public is the same as not allowing people to be sexual

its just a law regarding PROMOTION of certain behaviors,, not a law against engaging in them


not allowed to show affections in public, nor demonstrate against it...



that's not whats posted here, whats posted here is a law against 'propoganda'

Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of the community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument
"propaganda" is a vague term... holding hands can be propaganda... anything that is viewed as promoting gaydom is against the law... broad spectrum there... either way, great law... we're to pussified to get good laws like that here...grumble


well, Russia and many countries don't quite carry the 'freedoms' to such absolutes,,,


some things and expressions are not to be shared in public,,,,

many countries do the same with racist speech,,,,,which is prosecutable,,,and not protected as a 'freedom of speech' element

or gun ownership, where there is no 'freedom to bear arms' ,,,etc,,,


different cultures agree to different boundaries I guess


i have to say i agree with more than i disagree with it... it's mainly being used as a tool to slow down the "spread" of gaydom...