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Wasn't Zimmerman proven "not guilty" nope, he just wasnt proven guilty in a criminal case the default if guilt is not proven 'beyond a reasonable doubt' its not guilty there is no such thing as being proven not guilty,,,,,, but there is such a thing as a civil case vs a criminal case,,,,one requiring a preponderance of evidence and another requiring a more stringent absence of a 'reasonable' doubt... Yeah, what fool would think that not guilty means "not guilty"? 
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How much he stand to rake in? A lot, that is the only reason he is involved. |
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Wasn't Zimmerman proven "not guilty" nope, he just wasnt proven guilty in a criminal case the default if guilt is not proven 'beyond a reasonable doubt' its not guilty there is no such thing as being proven not guilty,,,,,, but there is such a thing as a civil case vs a criminal case,,,,one requiring a preponderance of evidence and another requiring a more stringent absence of a 'reasonable' doubt... The verdict was not guilty, but you can twist it however you want you always do. |
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Edited by
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OK Ima say it and then run right quick
gun c-o-n-t-r-o-l civilians roaming the streets with weapons who are not skilled law enforcement officers was the problem here....I think harmony is right to be concerned but the issue is not race....the issue is why was a PLEB armed and patrolling???? neighborhood watch is supposed to call the cops, not approach *ducks and runs* lol |
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Unfortunately, Mr Z did not approach dead thug.
Dead thug turned and approved Mr Z Then, laid hands on, assaulting Mr Z. Mr Z then used proper gun control. Defending himself. Thugs wish we were disarmed and vulnerable. |
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Unfortunately, Mr Z did not approach dead thug.
Zimmerman deliberately got out of his vehicle and followed Martin, contrary to what the 911 police operator told Zimmerman to do. If Zimmerman had not been armed with a loaded gun, I seriously doubt that he would have followed Martin. Even if he did kill Martin in self-defense, Zimmerman set up the situation by prejudging Martin as being a criminal, which is why Zimmerman called 911. |
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Unfortunately, Mr Z did not approach dead thug.
Zimmerman deliberately got out of his vehicle and followed Martin, contrary to what the 911 police operator told Zimmerman to do. If Zimmerman had not been armed with a loaded gun, I seriously doubt that he would have followed Martin. Even if he did kill Martin in self-defense, Zimmerman set up the situation by prejudging Martin as being a criminal, which is why Zimmerman called 911. What a crock of horse hockey that statement is! So a person does not have a right to leave their car and walk the street now? When was that law passed? Neighborhood watches are supposed to patrol how? From the couch in their living rooms? If they don't follow, watch/film, interview and report what is their job? Chewing bubble gum? A 911 dispatcher is NOT the police, and he was NOT ordered not to follow, he was told "we don't need you to do that", then asked "can you still see him?" Both had the option to walk away, neither did. T could have called 911, instead he called a girl spouting racial names in reference to Z. T then turned and attacked Z, at that moment he changed the scenario, a bad move it ends up being when his "victim" was armed. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 07/17/13 05:09 AM
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OK Ima say it and then run right quick gun c-o-n-t-r-o-l civilians roaming the streets with weapons who are not skilled law enforcement officers was the problem here....I think harmony is right to be concerned but the issue is not race....the issue is why was a PLEB armed and patrolling???? neighborhood watch is supposed to call the cops, not approach *ducks and runs* lol Neighborhood watches do not just call cops! Their job is to prevent crime, and acquire evidence of crime, to help the police, who investigate crime, in their case of solving or prosecuting it. These watches are chosen by communities, trained and sanctioned by police, and used to keep insurance and security cost down for home owners in HOAs and other communities. Follow, watch/film, interview and report, that is their job. Most time their presence is all that's needed to prevent small crime, keep vandals moving, or purse snatchers and bicycle thieves choosing other areas. This case is not about race, or gun control, or stand your ground. This case was about a burden of proof to show who the guilty party was, and it was unanimously decided by a jury the guilty party was not Z, no matter what else happened or who used the poorest judgment! A boy who attacked a man, who happened to be armed, and was able to save himself from a life threatening situation by using his lisenced and legal weapon in self defense. That is what was proven by a trial and a jury of his peers, which is the vehicle for justice in this country. Nothing more! |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 07/17/13 05:35 AM
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I ask again....What about Bradley Manning, the young hero who exposed the atrocities permitted by this administration on the citizens of foreign countries who is being persecuted quietly while the DOJ and Obozo keep the racial fires burning over this circus?
Where is the media, the outrage, the good people so upset with injustice? What a joke! Scream injustice for a violent banger and sleep while a hero is being persecuted! How proud you all must be of yourselves! |
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Unfortunately, Mr Z did not approach dead thug.
Zimmerman deliberately got out of his vehicle and followed Martin, contrary to what the 911 police operator told Zimmerman to do. If Zimmerman had not been armed with a loaded gun, I seriously doubt that he would have followed Martin. Even if he did kill Martin in self-defense, Zimmerman set up the situation by prejudging Martin as being a criminal, which is why Zimmerman called 911. What a crock of horse hockey that statement is! So a person does not have a right to leave their car and walk the street now? When was that law passed? Neighborhood watches are supposed to patrol how? From the couch in their living rooms? If they don't follow, watch/film, interview and report what is their job? Chewing bubble gum? A 911 dispatcher is NOT the police, and he was NOT ordered not to follow, he was told "we don't need you to do that", then asked "can you still see him?" Both had the option to walk away, neither did. T could have called 911, instead he called a girl spouting racial names in reference to Z. T then turned and attacked Z, at that moment he changed the scenario, a bad move it ends up being when his "victim" was armed. both didn't have the option to walk away, one USED Their option to walk away, change directions and RUN, but still wasn't able to get rid of a strange man who CHOSE to follow him through all of those attempts why would one call 911, if what another person was doing wasn't 'illegal',, the logic here is ambiguous on the one hand Z wasn't doing anything illegal,, but on the other hand this boy should have thought to call an emergency number about a non crime,,,, whatever,,lol as I have said, having arms is not being armed unless you are prejudged as a 'banger' who obviously is fatal just by being able to fight with his hands,,,lol karma,, karma, karma,, that's all that's left to say,, Z aint gonna enjoy 'freedom' for very long,,,,,its ineveitable,,, |
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Unfortunately, Mr Z did not approach dead thug.
Zimmerman deliberately got out of his vehicle and followed Martin, contrary to what the 911 police operator told Zimmerman to do. If Zimmerman had not been armed with a loaded gun, I seriously doubt that he would have followed Martin. Even if he did kill Martin in self-defense, Zimmerman set up the situation by prejudging Martin as being a criminal, which is why Zimmerman called 911. What a crock of horse hockey that statement is! So a person does not have a right to leave their car and walk the street now? When was that law passed? Neighborhood watches are supposed to patrol how? From the couch in their living rooms? If they don't follow, watch/film, interview and report what is their job? Chewing bubble gum? A 911 dispatcher is NOT the police, and he was NOT ordered not to follow, he was told "we don't need you to do that", then asked "can you still see him?" Both had the option to walk away, neither did. T could have called 911, instead he called a girl spouting racial names in reference to Z. T then turned and attacked Z, at that moment he changed the scenario, a bad move it ends up being when his "victim" was armed. both didn't have the option to walk away, one USED Their option to walk away, change directions and RUN, but still wasn't able to get rid of a strange man who CHOSE to follow him through all of those attempts why would one call 911, if what another person was doing wasn't 'illegal',, the logic here is ambiguous on the one hand Z wasn't doing anything illegal,, but on the other hand this boy should have thought to call an emergency number about a non crime,,,, whatever,,lol as I have said, having arms is not being armed unless you are prejudged as a 'banger' who obviously is fatal just by being able to fight with his hands,,,lol karma,, karma, karma,, that's all that's left to say,, Z aint gonna enjoy 'freedom' for very long,,,,,its ineveitable,,, Sad....you tell yourself lies contrary to evidence and convince yourself they are truths! Nothing you stated comes anywhere close to truth! A jury said T didn't run, he turned and attacked. If he felt threatened, most would call 911, not a g/f! Both made choices, attacking another person is not a smart choice by any standard, simply aggressive behavior, for which a price was paid. That is the sad truth in a nut shell. Both made the wrong choice! Self defense is not a crime, walking a street is not a crime, possessing a lisenced firearm is not a crime, attacking another is a crime, and one that T chose as response to the situation. His own poor judgement was to blame, the justice system made up of a trial, evidence, witnesses, and a jury of peers, has made that a fact.... Deal with it! |
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Wasn't Zimmerman proven "not guilty" nope, he just wasnt proven guilty in a criminal case the default if guilt is not proven 'beyond a reasonable doubt' its not guilty there is no such thing as being proven not guilty,,,,,, but there is such a thing as a civil case vs a criminal case,,,,one requiring a preponderance of evidence and another requiring a more stringent absence of a 'reasonable' doubt... Yeah, what fool would think that not guilty means "not guilty"?
none that I know of but those who study law know that 'not guilty' doesn't mean 'innocent' You apparently do not study law or you would know that a verdict of "not guilty" means he was proven in a court of law to be not guilty. |
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criminal activity is neither up nor down as a result of this verdict people have the right to demonstrate in support or protest,,,just as zimmerman had the right to hunt down that boy,,,,,, aint america grand that way? zimmerman's parents are in hiding due to receiving death threats. those crimes of terroristic threats are due to the verdict. crimes are being committed all over the country due to the verdict, so criminal activity is up as a result of the verdict, sheesh first you said zimmerman followed that boy. then it was zimmerman profiled the boy. now it's zimmerman hunted down that boy. what's next? maybe you would have liked for zimmerman to have scalped him or taken a picture with his foot on martin's head i served in the united states marine corps so that you could have the right to say and think those things, ain't america grand that way Yes Ese and I am proud to have you as a friend and fellow citizen. |
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Sharpton The Sharpster to lead Rallies for Justice!
He wouldn't know Justice if it bit his Arse! A Confidence-Trickster that's all he is! |
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Unfortunately, Mr Z did not approach dead thug.
Zimmerman deliberately got out of his vehicle and followed Martin, contrary to what the 911 police operator told Zimmerman to do. If Zimmerman had not been armed with a loaded gun, I seriously doubt that he would have followed Martin. Even if he did kill Martin in self-defense, Zimmerman set up the situation by prejudging Martin as being a criminal, which is why Zimmerman called 911. What a crock of horse hockey that statement is! So a person does not have a right to leave their car and walk the street now? When was that law passed? Neighborhood watches are supposed to patrol how? From the couch in their living rooms? If they don't follow, watch/film, interview and report what is their job? Chewing bubble gum? A 911 dispatcher is NOT the police, and he was NOT ordered not to follow, he was told "we don't need you to do that", then asked "can you still see him?" Both had the option to walk away, neither did. T could have called 911, instead he called a girl spouting racial names in reference to Z. T then turned and attacked Z, at that moment he changed the scenario, a bad move it ends up being when his "victim" was armed. both didn't have the option to walk away, one USED Their option to walk away, change directions and RUN, but still wasn't able to get rid of a strange man who CHOSE to follow him through all of those attempts why would one call 911, if what another person was doing wasn't 'illegal',, the logic here is ambiguous on the one hand Z wasn't doing anything illegal,, but on the other hand this boy should have thought to call an emergency number about a non crime,,,, whatever,,lol as I have said, having arms is not being armed unless you are prejudged as a 'banger' who obviously is fatal just by being able to fight with his hands,,,lol karma,, karma, karma,, that's all that's left to say,, Z aint gonna enjoy 'freedom' for very long,,,,,its ineveitable,,, Sad....you tell yourself lies contrary to evidence and convince yourself they are truths! Nothing you stated comes anywhere close to truth! A jury said T didn't run, he turned and attacked. If he felt threatened, most would call 911, not a g/f! Both made choices, attacking another person is not a smart choice by any standard, simply aggressive behavior, for which a price was paid. That is the sad truth in a nut shell. Both made the wrong choice! Self defense is not a crime, walking a street is not a crime, possessing a lisenced firearm is not a crime, attacking another is a crime, and one that T chose as response to the situation. His own poor judgement was to blame, the justice system made up of a trial, evidence, witnesses, and a jury of peers, has made that a fact.... Deal with it! nothing I Believe is contrary to evidence,,,just because jurors believed that Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman doesnt mean he didnt actually defend himself against an aggressive stalker ,,none of us were there , including the jurors,, but the witnesses acount doesnt back up any version where zimmerman was sucker punched and fell down,,, ,,,deal with that...! |
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OK Ima say it and then run right quick gun c-o-n-t-r-o-l civilians roaming the streets with weapons who are not skilled law enforcement officers was the problem here....I think harmony is right to be concerned but the issue is not race....the issue is why was a PLEB armed and patrolling???? neighborhood watch is supposed to call the cops, not approach *ducks and runs* lol Neighborhood watches do not just call cops! Their job is to prevent crime, and acquire evidence of crime, to help the police, who investigate crime, in their case of solving or prosecuting it. These watches are chosen by communities, trained and sanctioned by police, and used to keep insurance and security cost down for home owners in HOAs and other communities. Follow, watch/film, interview and report, that is their job. Most time their presence is all that's needed to prevent small crime, keep vandals moving, or purse snatchers and bicycle thieves choosing other areas. This case is not about race, or gun control, or stand your ground. This case was about a burden of proof to show who the guilty party was, and it was unanimously decided by a jury the guilty party was not Z, no matter what else happened or who used the poorest judgment! A boy who attacked a man, who happened to be armed, and was able to save himself from a life threatening situation by using his lisenced and legal weapon in self defense. That is what was proven by a trial and a jury of his peers, which is the vehicle for justice in this country. Nothing more! it was not 'proven' that he was not guilty,, not guilty is not something that is 'proven' guilt is proven and if guile is not proven (beyond any doubt in criminal or by a preponderance of evidence in civil, the DEFAULT is not guilty again, noone is 'proven' not guilty,, they are found not guilty if there wasnt adequate representation to PROVE they were guilty,,,, this man was guilty of stalking and accosting this boy,, this boy was guilty of defending himself, but beause this man was the only one standing and had a broken nose and scrapes on his head, he could convince a gullible jury and attorney that he was the victim minding his business and being visciouly attacked unjustifiably,,, people are gullible,, but Karma is a trip,, and his ego and over inflated sense of authority will come back to him some day,,, I have no doubt of that either,,, |
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Wasn't Zimmerman proven "not guilty" nope, he just wasnt proven guilty in a criminal case the default if guilt is not proven 'beyond a reasonable doubt' its not guilty there is no such thing as being proven not guilty,,,,,, but there is such a thing as a civil case vs a criminal case,,,,one requiring a preponderance of evidence and another requiring a more stringent absence of a 'reasonable' doubt... Yeah, what fool would think that not guilty means "not guilty"?
none that I know of but those who study law know that 'not guilty' doesn't mean 'innocent' You apparently do not study law or you would know that a verdict of "not guilty" means he was proven in a court of law to be not guilty. lol, WRONG,, there is no such thing as 'proven' not guilty,, there is no burden on defense to PROVE their innocence, ,the burden is on prosecution to PROVE guilt,,,,in the absence of sufficient evidence to prove GUILT the DEFAULT must be 'not guilty' |
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Sharpton The Sharpster to lead Rallies for Justice! He wouldn't know Justice if it bit his Arse! A Confidence-Trickster that's all he is! even a broke clock is capable of being right twice a day this case he has hit on the head, and plenty of others agree with him,,,,,, |
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90% of who follow Sharpie are gutter ferals who want to run in a pack and maybe kill a few whites.
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 07/17/13 01:24 PM
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Sharpton the shyster and Jackson the joker
What great leaders they are continually promoting the cause of racism and always doing more harm than good for their own race and people. What a sad joke on ALL American people, not just blacks or minorities! MLK they are NOT! Not by action or cause! Just a couple of self serving, race baiting, harmful bigots! Ambulance chasers comes to mind! They would throw fuel on a fire for more funding! |
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