Topic: Surveillance Is Unconstitutional
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 07/14/13 05:38 PM
The Wall Street Journal

The NSA's Surveillance Is Unconstitutional

Congress or the courts should put a stop to these unreasonable data seizures.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323823004578593591276402574.html

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Sun 07/14/13 06:59 PM
Forget about whether or not it's constitutional...It's against your natural human right to privacy!

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Mon 07/15/13 03:21 PM
I watched all night last night this subject being discussed on television live.

There were some great points raised, and people are becoming more informed about it.

None of this would have taken place had it not been for the whistle blower who now is hold up in Russia.

...not the best place to be either. Russia and Obama are partners in crime...

1j9b6c5's photo
Mon 07/15/13 03:38 PM

I watched all night last night this subject being discussed on television live.

There were some great points raised, and people are becoming more informed about it.

None of this would have taken place had it not been for the whistle blower who now is hold up in Russia.

...not the best place to be either. Russia and Obama are partners in crime...
So you admit to surveilling this subject all night? And you being a judge too. An honorable one at that. More puns, I need more puns.
Serious subject matter tho. just kidding around with jen.

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Mon 07/15/13 03:47 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 07/15/13 03:48 PM


I watched all night last night this subject being discussed on television live.

There were some great points raised, and people are becoming more informed about it.

None of this would have taken place had it not been for the whistle blower who now is hold up in Russia.

...not the best place to be either. Russia and Obama are partners in crime...
So you admit to surveilling this subject all night? And you being a judge too. An honorable one at that. More puns, I need more puns.
Serious subject matter tho. just kidding around with jen.



Yes I needed something on tv that I could fall asleep during....
But it was really pretty interesting.


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Mon 07/15/13 03:49 PM


I watched all night last night this subject being discussed on television live.

There were some great points raised, and people are becoming more informed about it.

None of this would have taken place had it not been for the whistle blower who now is hold up in Russia.

...not the best place to be either. Russia and Obama are partners in crime...
So you admit to surveilling this subject all night? And you being a judge too. An honorable one at that. More puns, I need more puns.
Serious subject matter tho. just kidding around with jen.


Oh Geeze!...I just noticed!...Hey Jeannie,; when did you get a seat on The Bench?...I sincerely hope you're sitting in the Supreme Court when it issues the arrest warrants!...I know you'll have plenty to issue...Hope you don't get writer's cramp. :laughing:

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Mon 07/15/13 03:50 PM



I watched all night last night this subject being discussed on television live.

There were some great points raised, and people are becoming more informed about it.

None of this would have taken place had it not been for the whistle blower who now is hold up in Russia.

...not the best place to be either. Russia and Obama are partners in crime...
So you admit to surveilling this subject all night? And you being a judge too. An honorable one at that. More puns, I need more puns.
Serious subject matter tho. just kidding around with jen.

Sorry I mispelled your name, shoulda gone with bean.

Yes I needed something on tv that I could fall asleep during....
But it was really pretty interesting.



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Mon 07/15/13 03:54 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 07/15/13 03:57 PM
The gist of the discussion was that what the Government or NSA is doing is collecting what they call "Meta Data."

This is quite different from listening in on your phone and reading the contents of your emails.

This meta date tells them who you are communicating with, when, etc.
They basically decided that what is needed is more over-site, not less meta-data collecting.

What disturbs me is they still feel they have the right and authority to target people in other countries. This is basically excused (permitted without a warrant) as "National Security."

Then, if while targeting someone in some other country, it leads to someone in America, then they can proceed to collect their meta data too.... without a warrant.

They also talked about the abuse of the system by doing reverse targeting. That is when they target someone from another country in order to have an excuse for targeting a specific individual in America, which they normally would need a warrant for.




JustDukkyMkII's photo
Thu 07/18/13 03:10 PM

The gist of the discussion was that what the Government or NSA is doing is collecting what they call "Meta Data."

This is quite different from listening in on your phone and reading the contents of your emails.

This meta date tells them who you are communicating with, when, etc.
They basically decided that what is needed is more over-site, not less meta-data collecting.

What disturbs me is they still feel they have the right and authority to target people in other countries. This is basically excused (permitted without a warrant) as "National Security."

Then, if while targeting someone in some other country, it leads to someone in America, then they can proceed to collect their meta data too.... without a warrant.

They also talked about the abuse of the system by doing reverse targeting. That is when they target someone from another country in order to have an excuse for targeting a specific individual in America, which they normally would need a warrant for.



It's a lot worse than that. Apparently they're collecting "metadata" three "hops" away from the calls they're monitoring...Ever hear of the "six-degrees of separation?" The NSA just admitted to recording up to three of them.

Neither the American people nor any other nations are too happy about it.

http://original.antiwar.com/Emma_Lo/2013/07/17/nsa-spying-leaves-washington-lonelier-than-ever/