Topic: Southern Baptists vs. Boy Scouts?
Dodo_David's photo
Wed 06/12/13 03:35 PM


Southern Baptist Convention vs. Boy Scouts of America?

Here is an excerpt from a news story about the Southern Baptist Convention and the Boy Scouts of America:

The nation's largest Protestant denomination stopped short of calling for its member churches to boycott the Boy Scouts, but voiced strong opposition to acceptance of gay scouts - with a top church leader predicting at the annual gathering of Southern Baptists that a "mass exodus" of youths from the program that has been a rite of passage for more than a century.

The move by the Southern Baptist Convention came at its annual, four-day meeting in Houston, and three weeks after the Boy Scouts of America voted to allow gay youth to join. With more than two-thirds of Boy Scout troops sponsored by religious organizations, and Baptists being the nation's largest protestant denomination, the resolution could have a crippling effect on the Boy Scouts.


This action by the SBC is troubling for several reasons.

1. The youngest members of the BSA are no more than eleven years old, and boys that age may not have a clear idea of what to think or believe about sexuality. If a young scout's sexual orientation doesn't fully develop until later, then it would be impractical at best for the BSA to try to screen out existing scouts who discover later on that they have homosexual feelings.

2. Sexual feelings are irrelevant to the values that the BSA instills into boys.

3. The SBC appears to be promoting punishment for boys who have sexual feelings that they did not choose to have.

4. Feelings are morally neutral. Behavior isn't. The BSA hasn't condoned any kind of sexual behavior.

5. The new membership policy of the BSA pertains to boy scouts, not adult leaders.

6. Having homosexual feelings isn't the unpardonable sin.

5. The SBC doesn't require people to reveal their sexual orientation before they attend worship services in SBC congregations. So, the SBC's complaint about the BSA appears to be hypocritical.


[Above commentary from PaxDeo.blogspot.com ©2013]

msharmony's photo
Wed 06/12/13 05:52 PM
its a sick culture that even reinforces/suggests young boys have a 'sexual preference' in the first place

I do understand though, that if it is clear a boy is attracted to boys, having him bunking with and doing other potentially 'intimate' things with other boys is not fair to those who are straight,,,


same reason I felt the DADT policy was wise,,,,the same way I dont want a straight man showering next to me (the potential reaction), I also dont want a homosexual male next to me because Im not interesting in seeing some strange mans junk

and I dont want a woman with the same type of attraction as a straight male there either,,,



no photo
Mon 07/01/13 01:40 AM
I feel you on that one. I dont see how there is a baptist vs boyscout anyway. The church IS supposed to be against anything that is offensive to God and HIS people. I have many members of my family in boyscout. I would not want then taught the ways of life and survival thru the eyes of another man who is CONFUSED. God did not make two men together. This is very clear at the beginning of the
bible. There should be no argument about who goes and what stays in or with the church. This its disgusting.
To think you can sit with the people of God, in the house of God and be civil....i dont know what the world has come to, smh

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 07/01/13 03:50 AM
amazing,the interest People take in other People's sexuality!:laughing:


Toodygirl5's photo
Tue 07/02/13 07:24 PM

amazing,the interest People take in other People's sexuality!:laughing:





Sad when people don't know the difference.

Toodygirl5's photo
Tue 07/02/13 07:25 PM

I feel you on that one. I dont see how there is a baptist vs boyscout anyway. The church IS supposed to be against anything that is offensive to God and HIS people. I have many members of my family in boyscout. I would not want then taught the ways of life and survival thru the eyes of another man who is CONFUSED. God did not make two men together. This is very clear at the beginning of the
bible. There should be no argument about who goes and what stays in or with the church. This its disgusting.
To think you can sit with the people of God, in the house of God and be civil....i dont know what the world has come to, smh


Well Said...:thumbsup:

no photo
Wed 07/03/13 12:06 AM
Edited by techknowlove on Wed 07/03/13 12:07 AM
To think you can sit with the people of God, in the house of God and be civil....i dont know what the world has come to, smh


I wonder the same thing when I attend a church service and sit amongst heterosexual couples who are having premarital sex..

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/03/13 04:03 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 07/03/13 04:09 AM

To think you can sit with the people of God, in the house of God and be civil....i dont know what the world has come to, smh


I wonder the same thing when I attend a church service and sit amongst heterosexual couples who are having premarital sex..


how do you know visually if someone is having premarital sex? are there premarital sex parades? do they wear proud to be in a consentual sex relationship on their shirt?


do you suppose adam and eve sinned in their fruitfulness because they had no government license or marriage ceremony?




lol

no photo
Wed 07/03/13 08:22 AM
Edited by techknowlove on Wed 07/03/13 08:23 AM


To think you can sit with the people of God, in the house of God and be civil....i dont know what the world has come to, smh


I wonder the same thing when I attend a church service and sit amongst heterosexual couples who are having premarital sex..


how do you know visually if someone is having premarital sex?

Maybe because I used to be a sex therapist laugh laugh

I can detect a person's immorality by just glancing at them. Don't even need my crystal ball noway

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 07/03/13 08:55 AM
Still, the Boy Scouts organization has nothing to do with sexuality, other than the facts that all Boy Scouts are males.

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/03/13 09:09 AM
yes, boy scouts have to do with
" The BSA provides a program for young people that builds character, trains them in the responsibilities of participating citizenship, and develops personal fitness.

For over a century, the BSA has helped build the future leaders of this country by combining educational activities and lifelong values with fun"


they determine what responsibility and personal fitness to reinforce

and it is the church right to take a position on spiritual fitness

no photo
Wed 07/03/13 10:51 AM
Why don't they let lesbian girls join the Boy Scouts and the gay boys join the Girl Scouts. There, every thing is settled.:smile:

no photo
Wed 07/03/13 11:14 AM
Gay scouts of america ?
lol
:laughing:
WAFJ !


no photo
Wed 07/03/13 11:23 AM
"its a sick culture that even reinforces/suggests young boys have a 'sexual preference' in the first place"


thanks harmony

I think we can just leave it at this

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 07/03/13 01:09 PM

yes, boy scouts have to do with
" The BSA provides a program for young people that builds character, trains them in the responsibilities of participating citizenship, and develops personal fitness.

For over a century, the BSA has helped build the future leaders of this country by combining educational activities and lifelong values with fun"


they determine what responsibility and personal fitness to reinforce

and it is the church right to take a position on spiritual fitness


The BSA organization is itself not a church and does not judge the spiritual fitness of any boy.

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/03/13 05:32 PM

Why don't they let lesbian girls join the Boy Scouts and the gay boys join the Girl Scouts. There, every thing is settled.:smile:



because we were never concerned with recognizing SEXUAL PREFERENCES instead of GENDER,, before,,,

but now , they can be seperate issues,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/03/13 05:34 PM


yes, boy scouts have to do with
" The BSA provides a program for young people that builds character, trains them in the responsibilities of participating citizenship, and develops personal fitness.

For over a century, the BSA has helped build the future leaders of this country by combining educational activities and lifelong values with fun"


they determine what responsibility and personal fitness to reinforce

and it is the church right to take a position on spiritual fitness


The BSA organization is itself not a church and does not judge the spiritual fitness of any boy.



no , but the church does

and boy scouts, has an interest in values and morale

people can choose to have kids join or not, and their interest is in trying to also provide a service that PARENTS are interested in,,,,

no photo
Wed 07/03/13 06:30 PM
What about the bi-sexual kids? Why are they being left out? They have rights too.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 07/03/13 06:33 PM
The BSA organization is not in the business of teaching anything that is particular to the Christian faith. A boy in the program can be either a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim or a Mormon.

Sure, the SBC can limit the use of its facilities to people who believe exactly like the SBC does, but doing so won't stop any boys from feeling however they feel.

I consider it going to too far to punish a civic organization for being unable to control the feelings of minors.

no photo
Wed 07/03/13 06:44 PM

The BSA organization is not in the business of teaching anything that is particular to the Christian faith. A boy in the program can be either a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim or a Mormon.

Sure, the SBC can limit the use of its facilities to people who believe exactly like the SBC does, but doing so won't stop any boys from feeling however they feel.

I consider it going to too far to punish a civic organization for being unable to control the feelings of minors.


Most kids feel with their fingers. So they wont be able to feel in SBC facilities.