Topic: Edward Snowden: Profile in Courage
mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/11/13 12:40 PM



Americans can no longer trust the President, Congress, or the courts to protect them, or the reporters, whistleblowers, and politicians on whom our democracy relies. Our government has been massively compromised by campaign contributions and executive secrecy.

God Bless Whistleblowers.

Manning & Snowden and those yet to come. May the floodgates open and justice be restored .


manning is an idiot, while snowden had balls...
both are Whistleblowers , both should be afforded protection.


i disagree, manning was in the military, and he took an oath to keep secrets...imagined warcrimes are not worth throwing your life away for, while spying on the whole of the US and then lying on top of that seems a bit more troublesome... but since you don't live in the US, your opinion is somewhat less meaningfull...

mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/11/13 12:47 PM
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/house-speaker-john-boehner-nsa-leaker-traitor-110116579.html?vp=1

bonehead...whoa

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 06/11/13 12:55 PM
you mean Boehner-Head?bigsmile

HappyBun's photo
Tue 06/11/13 01:21 PM
God Bless and protect all American Whistle Blowers and all those who will come in the near future. The climate is changing,

HappyBun's photo
Tue 06/11/13 01:41 PM
Booz Allen Hamilton were paid $5.6 billion tax payers dollars to spy on, guess who, Tax Payers. Nice work if you are connected to your Government. That very same Government that will punish Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning. And yet some people will defend their Government to the death. LOA

Toodygirl5's photo
Tue 06/11/13 02:16 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Tue 06/11/13 02:18 PM
Nothing new under the sun. Just more being revealed. US has not seen nothing yet. Meaning, there is a lot more out there that has yet to come out. Always has been and always will be. It didn't start with Obama and will not end, when he is out.

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Tue 06/11/13 10:10 PM




Americans can no longer trust the President, Congress, or the courts to protect them, or the reporters, whistleblowers, and politicians on whom our democracy relies. Our government has been massively compromised by campaign contributions and executive secrecy.

God Bless Whistleblowers.

Manning & Snowden and those yet to come. May the floodgates open and justice be restored .


manning is an idiot, while snowden had balls...
both are Whistleblowers , both should be afforded protection.


i disagree, manning was in the military, and he took an oath to keep secrets...imagined warcrimes are not worth throwing your life away for, while spying on the whole of the US and then lying on top of that seems a bit more troublesome... but since you don't live in the US, your opinion is somewhat less meaningfull...


There is an elite secret society who take oaths all the time and these oaths that they take are null and void and they never abide by them and they lie all the time because their allegiance is to themselves and to their agenda of world domination.

They expect the idiots who work under them to take and abide by their oaths while at the same time are above having to abide by the same oaths. They place themselves above the law, and above any oath.

So I say, a person cannot trust even the person or organization or military that they are swearing an oath to. If they find that this person or military or organization is evil and corrupt he is within his rights to disobey the oath, as even some of his superiors have done.

A person must first obey his own conscience and answer to that first and foremost. If his evil authorities want to punish him for that, he will most likely accept the consequences. But if you swore an oath to Hitler, and then learned he was insane and murdering children, how important is your oath compared to your HUMANITY?


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Tue 06/11/13 10:12 PM
How important is your oath compared to your humanity and your conscience?

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 06/12/13 12:43 AM


and look where the Dumbazz went!

On May 20, he boarded a flight to Hong Kong, where he has remained ever since. He chose the city because "they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent", and because he believed that it was one of the few places in the world that both could and would resist the dictates of the US government.

Hong Kong,Proxy of the PRC!:laughing:

In the three weeks since he arrived, he has been ensconced in a hotel room. "I've left the room maybe a total of three times during my entire stay," he said. It is a plush hotel and, what with eating meals in his room too, he has run up big bills.

He is deeply worried about being spied on. He lines the door of his hotel room with pillows to prevent eavesdropping. He puts a large red hood over his head and laptop when entering his passwords to prevent any hidden cameras from detecting them.

Though that may sound like paranoia to some, Snowden has good reason for such fears. He worked in the US intelligence world for almost a decade. He knows that the biggest and most secretive surveillance organisation in America, the NSA, along with the most powerful government on the planet, is looking for him.



Sure glad the PRC hasn't got a Dog in the Race!
Right from the Alligator's Mouth into the Mouth of the Dragon!slaphead


whistleblower Edward Snowden: 'I don't want to live in a society that does these sort of things' –
Then he Hightails it to China!
rofl


HappyBun's photo
Wed 06/12/13 01:01 AM

How important is your oath compared to your humanity and your conscience?


I live my life on both my humanity and conscience. There is no other way in my opinion . I hope that answers your question. I would put your question to all those involved in this thread.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 06/13/13 08:16 AM

Thomas Massie on NSA spying on you and government lying to you (Brian Thomas show 6/12/13)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOKuinVq8A8&feature=youtu.be

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 06/13/13 08:20 AM


Thomas Massie on NSA spying on you and government lying to you (Brian Thomas show 6/12/13)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOKuinVq8A8&feature=youtu.be
where you been this last forty years?bigsmile

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 06/13/13 11:02 AM
Sen Peter King is a liar!

Glenn Greenwald To Anderson Cooper: Peter King, Others Targeting Me For 'Crime Of Doing Journalism'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtUbVuWLgk&feature=youtu.be

Toodygirl5's photo
Thu 06/13/13 11:22 AM

Manning is an idiot, snowden is too, now he is hiding in China, who really like him. laugh

HappyBun's photo
Thu 06/13/13 11:29 AM

Sen Peter King is a liar!

Glenn Greenwald To Anderson Cooper: Peter King, Others Targeting Me For 'Crime Of Doing Journalism'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtUbVuWLgk&feature=youtu.be
Serious guy ths Glen Greenwald, serious paper The Guaddian. The hasbara school will find ity diffucult to pich holes in this one. Slowly Slowly the worm is turning.

Bestinshow's photo
Thu 06/13/13 12:28 PM
Its a sad day for america when dissidents have to flee this country.

Who can defend this? its most moronic, we do have a bill of rights.

The ones who should be afraid are the ones who betrayed our laws!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 06/13/13 01:43 PM

Even Patriot Act Architect Says Snowden Not A Traitor!

http://lionsofliberty.com/2013/06/13/patriot-act-architect-says-snowden-not-a-traitor/

mightymoe's photo
Thu 06/13/13 02:40 PM





Americans can no longer trust the President, Congress, or the courts to protect them, or the reporters, whistleblowers, and politicians on whom our democracy relies. Our government has been massively compromised by campaign contributions and executive secrecy.

God Bless Whistleblowers.

Manning & Snowden and those yet to come. May the floodgates open and justice be restored .


manning is an idiot, while snowden had balls...
both are Whistleblowers , both should be afforded protection.


i disagree, manning was in the military, and he took an oath to keep secrets...imagined warcrimes are not worth throwing your life away for, while spying on the whole of the US and then lying on top of that seems a bit more troublesome... but since you don't live in the US, your opinion is somewhat less meaningfull...


There is an elite secret society who take oaths all the time and these oaths that they take are null and void and they never abide by them and they lie all the time because their allegiance is to themselves and to their agenda of world domination.

They expect the idiots who work under them to take and abide by their oaths while at the same time are above having to abide by the same oaths. They place themselves above the law, and above any oath.

So I say, a person cannot trust even the person or organization or military that they are swearing an oath to. If they find that this person or military or organization is evil and corrupt he is within his rights to disobey the oath, as even some of his superiors have done.

A person must first obey his own conscience and answer to that first and foremost. If his evil authorities want to punish him for that, he will most likely accept the consequences. But if you swore an oath to Hitler, and then learned he was insane and murdering children, how important is your oath compared to your HUMANITY?




thats why they hire the "idiots" and not you...whoa rofl

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 06/14/13 06:10 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 06/14/13 06:14 AM
So.... with all the talk about Manning and Snowden being a threat to American lives and soldiers due to documents they leaked.....

What about the WH idiots who outted and leaked SEAL Team 6 was responsible for killing OBL which DID cost 17 SEAL Team members their lives?

Doesn't that make Biden/Obozo just as guilty of far worse crimes?

http://pix11.com/2013/05/16/justice-for-seal-team-6-larry-mendte/#ixzz2TT95SWBV

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 06/14/13 07:09 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 06/14/13 07:23 AM


Sen Peter King is a liar!

Glenn Greenwald To Anderson Cooper: Peter King, Others Targeting Me For 'Crime Of Doing Journalism'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtUbVuWLgk&feature=youtu.be
Serious guy ths Glen Greenwald, serious paper The Guaddian. The hasbara school will find ity diffucult to pich holes in this one. Slowly Slowly the worm is turning.
You need to stop using those exotic Words!
Some might remember!pitchfork rofl
Well,must have been a Freudian Slip!laugh