Topic: Yahoo: Let Us Read Your Emails or -- Goodbye!
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 06/02/13 05:06 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 06/02/13 05:10 PM
Yahoo to Users: Let Us Read Your Emails or -- Goodbye!

http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_MAIL_ML&locale=en_US&id=SLN3254

I already use startpage, for my search provider too, install it on all my customer machines, and recommend it to others.

Now they are launching a new PRIVATE email to beta testers until it formally launches in the near future.

It's time to JUST SAY NO! TO THESE DATA MINING CORPORATIONS AND THE GOVERNMENT INTRUSION INTO OUR PRIVATE LIVES!

There is also gmx mail, tormail and a couple of others who are filling the need for people who still believe their privacy is not open to government interpretation!

https://www.startpage.com/eng/press/yahoo-reads-your-mails.html

Momoiro_Usagi_7's photo
Sun 06/02/13 05:13 PM
Thank you!

oldhippie1952's photo
Sun 06/02/13 05:19 PM
Dang it and I've had my yahoo account forever too.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Fri 06/07/13 07:18 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Fri 06/07/13 07:25 PM
While it may be kinda late, I found this circulating on the hidden web. Some of you may still find it useful, though I accept no liability for its legality or lack of it:
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Please take notice that service to agent is service to principal and service to principal is service to agent. Notice also that this notice is one such service. Note that this "feedback" notice was sent on <date & time>.

Be advised that this "feedback" message entered at <"feedback" URL> is a lawful notice of potential billing to the Yahoo Corporation, hereinafter called "the account provider." Be advised also that I certify that I am the lawful possessor of and in lawful possession of the email account called "<yahoo email account>", hereinafter called "the account", and that I shall hereinafter refer to myself in the third person or as "the account holder" or simply "the holder." Be advised that this "feedback" notice is intended for and addressed to the account provider, which currently services the account.

The account holder has been using the account for approximately <# years> years, and while the holder was never overly happy with the old terms of service, the holder did agree to them notwithstanding the fact that he considers that he had already sacrificed a great deal of his precious privacy in exchange for "free" email service.

The account holder felt forced to treat his email like open postcards, which can be read by any interested party, however since some of his friends & associates never got the "hang" of encrypted private email, he continued to use the service, aware of the privacy limitations imposed by the old terms of service.

To the best of his knowledge & memory, he never willfully upgraded the account if a change in the terms of service and/or privacy policy was required, for the simple reason that he generally could not be bothered to deconstruct a lengthy proposed agreement to look for changes which might reduce what little online privacy rights he still retained under the new or modified terms that often go along with such an upgrade.

He sees now that he is being FORCED to either accept an email "upgrade" with a new or modified "agreement", or alternatively, relinquish some or all of the account provider's service to the account. Be advised that neither alternative is acceptable to him without fair monetary compensation for the inconvenience.

As you might expect, after <# years> years of contacts made, who can contact him only through the account he holds, losing the existing service on the account would impose a considerable hardship to him if he simply allowed the account provider to make changes detrimental to his interests without equitable compensation.

Be advised that the account holder considers the providing of many years of service from the account provider to grant him an "account easement", by which is meant a right to expect the service he has been getting to continue to be provided without interruption or modification of the existing agreement(s). Note also that this "feedback" is a lawful notice of equitable claim and potential billing to the account provider for equitable monetary compensation for the damages or inconvenience suffered by the holder for unapproved modification to the account and/or changes to the existing agreement(s) with respect to it.

In the event the account provider wishes to expedite changes to the account in lieu of the holder's expressed written approval, the holder offers the account provider the convenience of expediting proceedings by making such changes in lieu of said approval if the account provider agrees to pay the holder the sum of $<insert appropriate amount>, due within 30 days from the date that any such changes are first made to the account.

Any changes made to the existing account shall be deemed to be the account provider's acceptance of the above offer and the account provider's agreement to pay the aforementioned sum to the account holder in accordance with the above terms.

metalwing's photo
Fri 06/07/13 07:59 PM
I dumped yahoo a long time ago.

MoonsDragonLionWolf's photo
Fri 06/07/13 08:54 PM

Yahoo to Users: Let Us Read Your Emails or -- Goodbye!

http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_MAIL_ML&locale=en_US&id=SLN3254

I already use startpage, for my search provider too, install it on all my customer machines, and recommend it to others.

Now they are launching a new PRIVATE email to beta testers until it formally launches in the near future.

It's time to JUST SAY NO! TO THESE DATA MINING CORPORATIONS AND THE GOVERNMENT INTRUSION INTO OUR PRIVATE LIVES!

There is also gmx mail, tormail and a couple of others who are filling the need for people who still believe their privacy is not open to government interpretation!

https://www.startpage.com/eng/press/yahoo-reads-your-mails.html


Sorry to burst your bubble but the government is mining from pretty much everywhere.
Saying no isn't going to stop them.
Even if a new email site comes out they can mine there too until the current ruling is overturned by a judge which I'm sure it will as it's clear government overreach.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Sat 06/08/13 09:54 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Sat 06/08/13 09:57 AM


Yahoo to Users: Let Us Read Your Emails or -- Goodbye!

http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_MAIL_ML&locale=en_US&id=SLN3254

I already use startpage, for my search provider too, install it on all my customer machines, and recommend it to others.

Now they are launching a new PRIVATE email to beta testers until it formally launches in the near future.

It's time to JUST SAY NO! TO THESE DATA MINING CORPORATIONS AND THE GOVERNMENT INTRUSION INTO OUR PRIVATE LIVES!

There is also gmx mail, tormail and a couple of others who are filling the need for people who still believe their privacy is not open to government interpretation!

https://www.startpage.com/eng/press/yahoo-reads-your-mails.html


Sorry to burst your bubble but the government is mining from pretty much everywhere.
Saying no isn't going to stop them.
Even if a new email site comes out they can mine there too until the current ruling is overturned by a judge which I'm sure it will as it's clear government overreach.



the government is mining from pretty much everywhere.
Saying no isn't going to stop them.


If the government is mining your private information, you should send the government a fee schedule, charging them (retroactively) for any monitoring, recording, etc. of your private information, with or without without a lawfully authorized warrant issued by the judge of a court of competent jurisdiction, which you must be notified of within 90 days of any such surveillance.

Granted, you can't charge for something you don't know is occurring and if you are lawfully surveilled and that surveillance results in your being charged with and convicted of a crime, you are SOL, but if you aren't, and ever find out that you have been surveilled, the information is still YOUR PROPERTY and you can order done with it what you want, whether it is disclosure only to parties you expressly authorize, verified destruction of it, or billing the party storing it for the right to store and/or use it, or whatever.

Please remember that all law is contract and all contracts are the law between the parties.

All you really need to do is create a contract with "the government" that is more to your liking.

MoonsDragonLionWolf's photo
Sat 06/08/13 10:03 AM



Yahoo to Users: Let Us Read Your Emails or -- Goodbye!

http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_MAIL_ML&locale=en_US&id=SLN3254

I already use startpage, for my search provider too, install it on all my customer machines, and recommend it to others.

Now they are launching a new PRIVATE email to beta testers until it formally launches in the near future.

It's time to JUST SAY NO! TO THESE DATA MINING CORPORATIONS AND THE GOVERNMENT INTRUSION INTO OUR PRIVATE LIVES!

There is also gmx mail, tormail and a couple of others who are filling the need for people who still believe their privacy is not open to government interpretation!

https://www.startpage.com/eng/press/yahoo-reads-your-mails.html


Sorry to burst your bubble but the government is mining from pretty much everywhere.
Saying no isn't going to stop them.
Even if a new email site comes out they can mine there too until the current ruling is overturned by a judge which I'm sure it will as it's clear government overreach.



the government is mining from pretty much everywhere.
Saying no isn't going to stop them.


If the government is mining your private information, you should send the government a fee schedule, charging them (retroactively) for any monitoring, recording, etc. of your private information, with or without without a lawfully authorized warrant issued by the judge of a court of competent jurisdiction, which you must be notified of within 90 days of any such surveillance.

Granted, you can't charge for something you don't know is occurring and if you are lawfully surveilled and that surveillance results in your being charged with and convicted of a crime, you are SOL, but if you aren't, and ever find out that you have been surveilled, the information is still YOUR PROPERTY and you can order done with it what you want, whether it is disclosure only to parties you expressly authorize, verified destruction of it, or billing the party storing it for the right to store and/or use it, or whatever.

Please remember that all law is contract and all contracts are the law between the parties.

All you really need to do is create a contract with "the government" that is more to your liking.


All that legal gibberish just to in other words say
change the law. Lol. laugh

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Sat 06/08/13 10:16 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Sat 06/08/13 10:19 AM

All that legal gibberish just to in other words say
change the law. Lol.


All's fair in love, war and law...

They've been feeding you legalese gibberish since you were born and you've been swallowing it; don't you think it's time you returned the favour? You might as well stuff it down their throat, because I heard a rumour that the government only swallows it when they have to.
:laughing:

MoonsDragonLionWolf's photo
Sat 06/08/13 10:27 AM
I've never eaten legal gibberish. It tastes disgusting.
Like mayonnaise combined with Fruit Loops, Octopus, Celery, Other etc that can't be described. whoa

I eat pizza because it's good/favorite food and I can actually understand what it's made up of. :smile:

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/08/13 12:31 PM
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/06/08/us-uses-nsa-fbi-prism-program-to-snoop-on-everything-and-everybody/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2041044/how-to-protect-your-pc-from-prism.html

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/08/13 12:43 PM