I still think you should send her a bill

Then the reason she calls you late at night saying she misses you, is because you are more pleasing than her vibrator.

She is using you for sex perhaps.

hehehe and you're COMPLAINING ?

Really, this is me & I had to come to terms with it! Every word he says is spot on.
I remember been in my late 20 s next I know i'm almost 40, thinking what the f★ck just happend,
feeling I got robbed out of my thirties.
Three of these woman,all needy and emotional unavailable, back to back to back, and I've met
2000 woman just like them.

Before I can answer your question, I need to know what definition of "good" that you are using.

2000 women and 1 man

what's the common denominator? you.

just sayin'

I thnk the implication is conformists type....
brings to mind shy , quiet, clean cut that sort of thing
Like the opposite of gangster, criminal ect...

pretty much what mirage said. i sometimes put off a "thug" appearance because of my tattoos, but honestly ive been through some things id rather not talk about in an open forum, and it makes me appreciate life more.

Clean cut? Isn't that a rather subjective term?

For example, to some people, "clean cut" might mean that a person refrains from sex outside of marriage.

I'm not saying that is what "clean cut" should mean.
I'm saying that such may be how certain people define the term.

The opposite of a gangster or a criminal is someone who is law-abiding. A person can be law-abiding but still behave in ways that are not "good" from the perspective of another person.

By the way, I'm not trying to pick a fight. Far from it. I just wanted to know the definition of a "good" guy that is used by the author of the OP.

Women with brains in their heads which are the ones I associate with on here BTW are smart enough to appreciate a guy who is there for them on all levels. I am a VERY head strong individual and I have to find a guy who is not an idiot or push over. My current boyfriend has three master's degrees and is not about to let anyone walk all over him so I respect him. I cannot be with a man I do not respect.

On the other hand, I have been very guilty of using men for sex. Don't think women won't bed a young hottie and dump him because some of us will. Well, I used to. Ya, it's sad that some guys get used and then tossed aside but guys have done it to girls forever. Doesn't make it right. Just saying we are just as guilty.

Yeah well was not intended to be specifically defined as so much the motif.
Guessing the intent of the author is subjective however I believe their are likely rights and wrongs .... as such saying shy and quiet is subjective too.... as someone can be shy and quiet and a total rebel at heart and qualify for more on the opposite of the spectrum as 'bad' . However personality characteristics such as wholesome, clean cut, shy and quiet or often associated with being 'good' as in good guys finished last type of good and stereo typed as with such traits.

You met 10yrs ago,and your relationship is still erratic??

You do realise that your lady is just damaged goods,right?? To me,she'll always just want the sex,for i doubt she'll ever be ready/able to face a real relationship....face it;
if she could ran away from a marriage proposal.......??

And you,my dear,have helpers syndrome! That need to ''fix it''! And it makes you feel needed and all that such stuff!
This is going to weigh you down,bit by bit,till breaking point!

No! Good women are not allergic to good men-especially if said good men are also not allergic to these good women!

Take time off,rebuild yourself inside out,then go find yourself a real good woman,not damages that need fixing and they dont even want to fix it themselves!

Good Advice!

I was downtown waiting for a bus the other day, and there was this couple. The guy was shouting at her, using profanities, and such, and I remember saying. "Aaand meanwhile I'm still single".

oops doublepost.

I was very good friends with a guy (Not FWB) After some time he revealed to me that he really like me and wanted to date me...I've had some tragic thing happen to me before as well...I wasn't ready to get involved. He's was upset and never spoke to me again because I said no. Maybe you just need to give her time...Let her come to you. If are what she want I'm sure she will.

oops

Maybe she just needed her yard mowed and her house cleaned?
To me, you sound to easy to be used by someone.
Women do not like someone who will be under their thumb all the time.
IF you had sex and said I love you, is that the only time you
said it? Men are so good at this...why?
Men think with their lower parts and women think with their emotions.
When we say I love you...we mean it. It is not just because we are
having sex with you. Men say it during sex just to make themselves
not feel bad for having sex? I don't know, I guess I will never understand men!!

The opposite. We had a nice weekend. She lives with her mother and they were away at work. Her mother returned from work and overheard us having sex. Heathers 26 so I didn't understand why it was a big deal. But I mowed the lawn and cleaned the house to appease the mom. Afterall parents' opinions are important to women.

unsure: I told her I loved her outside the bedroom. She said it during sex. Twice. Once during and once after.

kic: Thats the thing. No she hasnt been clear. Shes wishy washy. She wants to date then she doesn't, back and forth. Thats what has my head spinning.

memoiro: I have a different philosophy than that guy apparently. I love her therefore I couldn't cut out on her simply because she's suffering from some connection issue. I've seen and heard about some of the things her ex's have done to her. When I care about somebody I make it my duty to be there regardless of circumstances.

newbiechick: You're probably right. I see the pattern. Many of my ex's were quote "damaged goods" unquote. Maybe you're onto something. I've yet to find a girl who has everything together. But then again, do any of us really have it all together?

mirage/dododavid: I'm simply stating my definition of a "good" guy is someone with a conscious. Someone who isn't going to cheat, abuse or neglect his woman.

teadipper: Yup, fully aware of that situation. I've been on that side of the coin a time or two. She has told me she has too much on her plate to start dating. My question is always, but isnt that what we're doing without the label? I mean, we sleep together. In both definitions of the term. She wants to cuddle, hug, kiss, whisper sweet nothings, then run off the next day and not call me for 2-3 days. Im unable to detach myself from that type of behavior in the bedroom. If its just sex, thats cool. Hug and cuddle for a few minutes then roll over. What makes it hard for me is she holds me like I'm her saving grace at night. She wants our bodies formed as one. Don't mean to go all poetic but I can't explain it any better. She treats me like a tossaway boyfriend, then like a real boyfriend. After reading up on borderline personality disorder I can see a little more into her psyche. Now I have to consider whether it is worth the effort.

Because I didn't "simply hang around her house all weekend". I was invited and it was a nice weekend. To me if a grown woman pays her rent, regardless of where she is living and supports her child, takes responsible action and gets on birth control, I would say having sex is not a big deal under a house where her parents live. It's an arrangement for them to all save money. And that's what it is. We did the respectable thing and waited until they were gone. Are we expected to migrate to the woods for intercourse? Or dish out $50 at the local sleazeball motel? She lives a good 40 minutes away from my house. Surely we can't be expected to travel nearly an hour and a half to have sex? You seem to be a very contentious person. Me and Heather talked about it after she had a chance to be around her mom. (Post sex) She seen her mom was upset about it and the grass needed cut so I volunteered. And quite the contrary, her mom loves me. We like the same types of movies, music, yada yada. We can converse on a good level. So yes, it is the opposite of your previous statement.