Topic: Who is the benefactor and the beneficiary of terrorism?
uche9aa's photo
Fri 05/24/13 10:25 AM
Who is really gainig or smiling to the bank after each successful act of terrorism? Who is really the benefacor and perhaps the beneficiary of terrorism?

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/24/13 10:28 AM

Who is really gaining or smiling to the bank after each successful act of terrorism? Who is really the benefactor and perhaps the beneficiary of terrorism?
you might have to ask the Terrorist or those who incite him to commit that Act!

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/24/13 10:32 AM
The purpose of terrorism is to terrorize." — Vladimir
Lenin
Vladimir Lenin once famously said that "the purpose of terrorism is to terrorize." Although terrorism employs violent means, and often uses military weaponry to execute attacks and massacres - the objective of a terrorist act isn't military victory. In fact, military forces are almost never the target of terrorist attacks. The objective of a terrorist attack is political reaction. The strategy behind such attacks is for them to be the catalyst, direct or indirect, for political change that weakens the enemy.

In classic political/strategic theory, the purpose of terrorism is to create a political psychology of fear and anger that persuades a government to undertake repressive and violent activities against its own populace, gradually losing their support, and eventually causing its own demise. Like a mite irritating a scorpion enough to persuade it to sting itself to death - the real weapon of terrorists isn't their bombs and guns - it is the the reactions they provoke. The harsher, more violent, brutal, and unreasonable those reactions are - the more successful the terrorist campaign becomes.

http://dmg-commonsense.blogspot.ch/2007/02/purpose-of-terrorism-is-to-terrorize.html

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Fri 05/24/13 11:44 AM
Was it Iran or Syria that paid money to the families of dead suicide bombers?

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/24/13 11:48 AM

Was it Iran or Syria that paid money to the families of dead suicide bombers?
Iran and also Saddam Hussein!

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Fri 05/24/13 11:59 AM
Ask the government. Oh wait, they'd lie about it. So best not.

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 05/24/13 01:08 PM
The U.S. government, they can spin it into a reason to take away our rights.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 05/24/13 01:10 PM

The U.S. government, they can spin it into a reason to take away our rights.
never let a good Crisis go to waste!pitchfork

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 05/24/13 06:09 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 05/24/13 06:11 PM
Most are partially right.

It is the banks who profit loaning money they print out of thin air, to gov'ts at interest (our gov't has the power to print our money interest free, but thanks to the Jekyl Island conspirators...all bankers.... and the 1913 FED bill passed while congress was in recess, doesn't).

When every dollar put into circulation comes with debt attached, how can we ever get out of debt..... simple math says there will never be enough money.

Today, money buys power, even governments. It is our banking system with absolute corruption at its core

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Fri 05/24/13 06:52 PM
no one wins

terrorists usually get caught, have bad karma and prison sentences and do no leave a positive, peaceful , loving footprint. They lose because they are a scourge and shame themselves and their families also.

The victims lose obviously

so no one wins...that's the fact that terrorists cannot get thru their heads

you catch more flies with honey than vinegar you stupid terrorists

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 05/24/13 07:25 PM

no one wins

terrorists usually get caught, have bad karma and prison sentences and do no leave a positive, peaceful , loving footprint. They lose because they are a scourge and shame themselves and their families also.

The victims lose obviously

so no one wins...that's the fact that terrorists cannot get thru their heads

you catch more flies with honey than vinegar you stupid terrorists


The banks never lose....they profit from both ends and never touch that bloody stick

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Mon 05/27/13 12:29 AM


no one wins

terrorists usually get caught, have bad karma and prison sentences and do no leave a positive, peaceful , loving footprint. They lose because they are a scourge and shame themselves and their families also.

The victims lose obviously

so no one wins...that's the fact that terrorists cannot get thru their heads

you catch more flies with honey than vinegar you stupid terrorists


The banks never lose....they profit from both ends and never touch that bloody stick


BINGO!!!...Give this man a cigar!

Momoiro_Usagi_7's photo
Mon 05/27/13 12:32 AM

The U.S. government, they can spin it into a reason to take away our rights.

SOOoOo True AGREE!

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 05/27/13 01:03 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 05/27/13 01:22 AM

Most are partially right.

It is the banks who profit loaning money they print out of thin air, to gov'ts at interest (our gov't has the power to print our money interest free, but thanks to the Jekyl Island conspirators...all bankers.... and the 1913 FED bill passed while congress was in recess, doesn't).

When every dollar put into circulation comes with debt attached, how can we ever get out of debt..... simple math says there will never be enough money.

Today, money buys power, even governments. It is our banking system with absolute corruption at its core
something wrong with Government if it can be bought,ain't there?
Or maybe they are in on the Scam,and always have been!

Yep,our Dear Public Servants,Victims of the Corporatists!:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
Benito Mussolini

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Mon 05/27/13 02:55 AM

Fascism sought to eliminate the class struggle, inculcating the idea that all ppl had a purpose.. in the production sense .. in reality it was not working a lot, because if a farmer was found in the square at nine in the evening, the fascist police beat he/she very hard.







They say that the terrorists with mental disabilities are cheap, so the group that organizes.. get a great return of money.

The news is not confirmed










Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 05/27/13 07:18 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/27/13 07:27 AM
In David Rockefeller's book "Memoirs" he admits that he is part of a secret cabal working to destroy the United States and create a new world order.

Here is the direct quote from his book pg. 405

For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. -David Rockefeller

Mr Rockefeller writes about the Bilderbergs (p. 410), at the "disppointment" of the "conspiracy-mongers" is just an "intensely interesting annual discussion group." Really? Then how come I'm never invited? What's all the secrecy about?

To give you an idea of why all the secrecy, here's an excerpt from a 1991 issue of the Hilaire duBerrier Report (also reported elsewhere in the French press):

"[Rockefeller] told his listeners: 'We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years....It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years....The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers ... is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in the past centuries.'"

In "Tragedy and Hope" written By Bill Clinton's professor at Georgetown, Carroll Quigley (p. 950) writes:

"There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Group has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it...but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."

Now why would the "Round Table Group" want to cooperate with the communists? James Kunen, in his "Strawberry Statement: Notes of a College Revolutionary," gives one reason:

"In the evening, I went up to the U. to check out a strategy meeting. A kid was giving a report on the SDS [Students for a Democratic Society] convention. He said that ... at the convention, men from Business International Round Tables, the meeting sponsored by Business International for their client groups and heads of government, tried to buy up a few radicals. These men are the world's leading industrialists and they convene to decide how our lives are going to go. These are the guys who wrote the Alliance for Progress. They are the left wing of the ruling class. They offered to finance our demonstrations in Chicago. We were also offered ESSO (Rockefeller) money. They want us to make a lot of radical commotion so they can look more in the center as they move to the left."

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Wed 05/29/13 03:04 PM
Terrorism is a constantly changing phenomenon played out with different tactics, means, targets and 'battle grounds'. it is constantly evolving. unfortunately there is no single definition accepted globally which presents huge problems. but we wont go into that.
there are various parties who benefit from terror. firstly and obviously the terrorists directly involved. they have a set goal and achieve it. as stated above- it is a political tool aimed at terrorizing- instilling fear into society so as to change the agenda in the long/short run. so with each attack, as public reaction experiences fright, hesitation and self questioning; the goal of the terrorist has been achieved.
secondly, the supporters of terrorists. yes- each group has many supporters who do not and will not engage in terrorism physically. they prefer to sponsor, promote and believe in the particular terrorist group's ideology. as they see their 'brothers' achieve mass casualties, public fright and media attention they benefit believing their political ideology is catching on and that change may occur in the future.
the monetary beneficiaries are endless: weapon manufactures, arms dealers, transport services, lodging havens, passport forgers, bomb makers. They do not have to belong to a terrorist group or even side with them ideologically- money rules largely with this group in many cases. large terrorist organisations can have a significant impact on a local economy e.g. hezbollah and al qaede.