Topic: Terror in London
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Thu 05/23/13 04:51 PM




I wonder if the brits will re-think the no gun police policy? They should.


There will always be a Black Market to some extent. If they did rethink their policy wouldn't it merely increase gun related violence?
Handgun-Crime has already steeply increased in spite of the Ban!


Of course, via the black market. You do realise that guns aren't illegal in the UK, just restricted? Wouldn't unrestricted access to weapons merely increase gun related violence to even higher levels?


Seems the police are the only ones restricted..

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Thu 05/23/13 04:52 PM




I wonder if the brits will re-think the no gun police policy? They should.


There will always be a Black Market to some extent. If they did rethink their policy wouldn't it merely increase gun related violence?
Handgun-Crime has already steeply increased in spite of the Ban!


Of course, via the black market. You do realise that guns aren't illegal in the UK, just restricted? Wouldn't unrestricted access to weapons merely increase gun related violence to even higher levels?


Seems the police are the only ones restricted..

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Thu 05/23/13 04:57 PM
do people in England always just walk around like nothing's happened when a headless body is lying in the street, and a man with bloody hands holding a bloody meat cleaver being interviewed? those people just walked right by him like nothing happened...

http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2013/05/beheading-in-london-graphic-pictures-soldier-behead-attackers-shot-2522000.html

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Thu 05/23/13 04:58 PM




I wonder if the brits will re-think the no gun police policy? They should.


There will always be a Black Market to some extent. If they did rethink their policy wouldn't it merely increase gun related violence?
Handgun-Crime has already steeply increased in spite of the Ban!


Of course, via the black market. You do realise that guns aren't illegal in the UK, just restricted? Wouldn't unrestricted access to weapons merely increase gun related violence to even higher levels?
try get a Handgun in the UK,legally that is!bigsmile

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Thu 05/23/13 04:59 PM

so ur saying that the boston bombing was islamic? it was by ur guys who caused the boston bombing. ****ing toerags blaming it on islamic people


poor muslims... they just get the blame for everything, huh...whoa

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Thu 05/23/13 05:02 PM

do people in England always just walk around like nothing's happened when a headless body is lying in the street, and a man with bloody hands holding a bloody meat cleaver being interviewed? those people just walked right by him like nothing happened...

http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2013/05/beheading-in-london-graphic-pictures-soldier-behead-attackers-shot-2522000.html

I know. It's like, oh, he's dead, heads off, jolly good. must be of now.

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Thu 05/23/13 05:10 PM





I wonder if the brits will re-think the no gun police policy? They should.


There will always be a Black Market to some extent. If they did rethink their policy wouldn't it merely increase gun related violence?
Handgun-Crime has already steeply increased in spite of the Ban!


Of course, via the black market. You do realise that guns aren't illegal in the UK, just restricted? Wouldn't unrestricted access to weapons merely increase gun related violence to even higher levels?
try get a Handgun in the UK,legally that is!bigsmile


Repost:

Of course, via the black market. You do realise that guns aren't illegal in the UK, just restricted? Gun running is concomitant with the drug trade, and it won't be controlled until organised crime is eradicated (if ever). That is not a cogent argument in favour of lifting controls. Wouldn't unrestricted access to weapons merely increase gun related violence to even higher levels? Furthermore, don't population increases influence the crime figures? That's a another valid point many miss in this emotionally charged debate. Statistics have been manipulated and misused throughout the entire debate.

As an example, recently on another site, in an effort to denigrate the efficacy of Australia's gun controls, a poster noted the rise in knife attacks in Australia since the legislation 16 years ago. This is an example of a red herring, as the figures did not take into account the rise in population and the general increase of violence in western society. It was then posited that if guns were freely available that violent incidents would be prevented, thus the violent crime figures would be reduced. This is, of course, poor logic and probability and causation would suggest the opposite.

The recent example of Chicago that everyone is so fond of quoting as an example for the supposed 'failure' of control legislation is merely an isolated example and not the rule. Moreover, the figures ignore many other factors, and fail to address the cultural motivations.

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Fri 05/24/13 12:17 AM


so ur saying that the boston bombing was islamic? it was by ur guys who caused the boston bombing. ****ing toerags blaming it on islamic people


poor muslims... they just get the blame for everything, huh...whoa


Boko Haram.

Al Shabab!

These are moslems,and yes,they are terrorising-Boko is doing the best in Nigeria! Al Shabab is doing the same in East Africa!

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Fri 05/24/13 01:10 AM





I wonder if the brits will re-think the no gun police policy? They should.


There will always be a Black Market to some extent. If they did rethink their policy wouldn't it merely increase gun related violence?
Handgun-Crime has already steeply increased in spite of the Ban!


Of course, via the black market. You do realise that guns aren't illegal in the UK, just restricted? Wouldn't unrestricted access to weapons merely increase gun related violence to even higher levels?
try get a Handgun in the UK,legally that is!bigsmile
problem is that the Crime with Handgun has doubled since Handguns were outlawed in UK!
How come?

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Fri 05/24/13 01:24 AM
This is how even more world wars/terrosism gets started, by blaming other countries. Maybe if people had more respect for each other, it wouldn't happen as much. You never know who could be reading this.

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Fri 05/24/13 05:32 AM






I wonder if the brits will re-think the no gun police policy? They should.


There will always be a Black Market to some extent. If they did rethink their policy wouldn't it merely increase gun related violence?
Handgun-Crime has already steeply increased in spite of the Ban!


Of course, via the black market. You do realise that guns aren't illegal in the UK, just restricted? Wouldn't unrestricted access to weapons merely increase gun related violence to even higher levels?
try get a Handgun in the UK,legally that is!bigsmile
problem is that the Crime with Handgun has doubled since Handguns were outlawed in UK!
How come?



according to whom?


;What's the Latest Development?

Last week marked 15 years since the enactment of the UK's Firearms Act, which prevents private citizens from owning most types of handguns and makes it much harder to purchase other types of guns, such as rifles and shotguns. The British parliament passed the law nine years after passing another gun control law that made semiautomatic weapons illegal. In the last 15 years, "more than 200,000 guns and 700 tons of ammunition have been taken off the streets" and although statistics show that the number of gun crimes increased at first, by 2005 a decline began that continues to this day thanks to strict enforcement and regular police sweeps.;
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http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/examining-uk-gun-crime-15-years-after-firearms-act

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Fri 05/24/13 05:34 AM






I wonder if the brits will re-think the no gun police policy? They should.


There will always be a Black Market to some extent. If they did rethink their policy wouldn't it merely increase gun related violence?
Handgun-Crime has already steeply increased in spite of the Ban!


Of course, via the black market. You do realise that guns aren't illegal in the UK, just restricted? Wouldn't unrestricted access to weapons merely increase gun related violence to even higher levels?
try get a Handgun in the UK,legally that is!bigsmile
problem is that the Crime with Handgun has doubled since Handguns were outlawed in UK!
How come?


crazy people exist,, they get into police forces, military branches, schools, and even religious groups......


however much press they get, they are still more the exception than the rule,,,,,,

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Fri 05/24/13 07:09 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 05/24/13 07:13 AM
Criminalls for Gun Control
Saving criminals by disarming citizens.

Who are we and what do we believe?

We, the members of the International Criminals Union, declare our position that all free and sovereign nations unite to ban the possession of firearms by law-abiding citizens.

It is our belief that our profession becomes more dangerous without strong and strict laws to regulate and prevent law-abiding citizens from possessing firearms. When only criminals and police can own a firearm our union's potential for growth will be unsurpassed.

The disarming of law-abiding citizens will allow our union to continue forth to the next generation with decreased risks of injury or our murder.

http://www.criminalsforguncontrol.com/

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty." -- Adolf Hitler (H.R. Trevor-Roper, Hitler's Table Talks 1941-1944) -- Even Hitler had it right. Subjects should be disarmed! Disarm law-abiding citizens of the US (and the World)of all firearms NOW!

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Fri 05/24/13 08:09 AM
Gotta admit, terrorism is a very crafty way of keeping us distracted, so that we don't notice our governments slowly take everything away from us, then we will have nothing left. Nothing. Let's face it, government haven't made anything better for us. They just keep dragging us down by making bills rise higher, and food prices, etc.

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Fri 05/24/13 08:16 AM

Gotta admit, terrorism is a very crafty way of keeping us distracted, so that we don't notice our governments slowly take everything away from us, then we will have nothing left. Nothing. Let's face it, government haven't made anything better for us. They just keep dragging us down by making bills rise higher, and food prices, etc.


i can't understand why the obama fanatics can't see this... absolutely nothing has changed since bush, except the fact that the debt has quadrupled, and the police state is worse... explode

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Fri 05/24/13 08:40 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 05/24/13 08:43 AM
Europe in general starts to look to me more and more like a US Gunfree Zone!grumble


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Fri 05/24/13 08:55 AM
Interesting eerie parallel to what has happened in London!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juramentado


At the moment of attack, the mag-sabil would approach a large group of Christians, shout "La ilaha il-la'l-lahu" ("There is no god but Allah"), draw kris or barong and then rush into the group swinging his sword, killing and maiming as many victims as possible in the time he had left. The true believer, however, faced a theologic conundrum. If the observant Juramentado believed that his murders pleased Allah, he could not admit that the inevitable consequences of his attacks constituted suicide, per se, as their Qur'an forbids it. To reconcile the inconsistency, they fashioned themselves as martyrs of their own making, coaxing their way into Paradise with the spilled blood of numerous enemies of the faith on their hands. In effect, however, the tactic more closely resembles murder/suicide. The Juramentado—acting neither in self defense nor through selfless altruism—commits to murder, and his own self destruction, solely for the promise of his perception of personal gain. After death, the mag-sabil's body would be washed and again wrapped in white for burial. In the unlikely event the mag-sabil survived his attack, it was believed his body would ascend to Paradise after 40 years had passed.[4]

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Fri 05/24/13 10:33 AM
you will never get rid of hatred amongst people when you get people allowed to speak in public about everything this world is never going to be civil towards each other when you got so many religions living under one roof its like flowers in a garden they all fight for supremecy in the garden unlees you do a bit of pruning the garden is going to get over run with weeds

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Fri 05/24/13 10:39 AM

you will never get rid of hatred amongst people when you get people allowed to speak in public about everything this world is never going to be civil towards each other when you got so many religions living under one roof its like flowers in a garden they all fight for supremecy in the garden unlees you do a bit of pruning the garden is going to get over run with weeds


That's quite a sentence.

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Sun 05/26/13 10:25 AM
London Muslims Hack, Behead UK Soldier to Death, Shout “Allahu Akbar,” Asked Passersby to Film It – Bleeping Animals


Nothing unique about London’s Muslims that keeps American Muslims from doing this same savage attack here and hacking to death our soldiers. Heck, Nidal Malik Hasan anyone? Absolutely horrific, and all because the man was a non-Muslim wearing a “Help for Heroes” t-shirt. Uh-huh, more “workplace violence.” Absolutely savage and absolutely Islam. Remember:

THIS. IS. ISLAM. . . .